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originally posted by: Lucidparadox
a reply to: infolurker
How is this grooming?
I just watched it. One of the kids was first to bring up non-binary. Another kid said "they" all before the teacher even said anything.
Theyre just going over definitions of things like they would do in any other class.
Also, no matter where your kid is, they are going to eventually run into a non-binary or trans identifying kid.. most likely at some point between this age and high school. So they will eventually have this conversation anyway.
I really dont get all the outrage about it. You cant control society or other people. What exists, exists. Whether you want trans or non-binary, or people who identify as wolves exist or not.. they do.. and they will.
And you.. and your kids will have to interact with and live amongst them eventually at some point whether you like ot or not.
So with that, isnt it best your kid know and understand everything about the world and people around them as soon as possible? So they can best understand things an have a firm grasp how to operate as soon as possible?
If you view all this stuff in a negative light, fine whatever that's your perogative. But wouldnt that make the case for education surrounding it stronger? Like drugs? If a kid who had no knowledge of drugs and no understanding of them whatsoever, they havee never learned about them, or talked about them.. if that kid gets offered drugs by another student and told oh yeah these are awesome youll love it.. they have no other knowledge backing their descision to try it. They will likely believe their friend.
Learning things exist is a good thing.
You cant control society or other people. What exists, exists. Whether you want trans or non-binary, or people who identify as wolves exist or not.. they do.. and they will.
originally posted by: SRPrime
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
a reply to: infolurker
How is this grooming?
I just watched it. One of the kids was first to bring up non-binary. Another kid said "they" all before the teacher even said anything.
Theyre just going over definitions of things like they would do in any other class.
Also, no matter where your kid is, they are going to eventually run into a non-binary or trans identifying kid.. most likely at some point between this age and high school. So they will eventually have this conversation anyway.
I really dont get all the outrage about it. You cant control society or other people. What exists, exists. Whether you want trans or non-binary, or people who identify as wolves exist or not.. they do.. and they will.
And you.. and your kids will have to interact with and live amongst them eventually at some point whether you like ot or not.
So with that, isnt it best your kid know and understand everything about the world and people around them as soon as possible? So they can best understand things an have a firm grasp how to operate as soon as possible?
If you view all this stuff in a negative light, fine whatever that's your perogative. But wouldnt that make the case for education surrounding it stronger? Like drugs? If a kid who had no knowledge of drugs and no understanding of them whatsoever, they havee never learned about them, or talked about them.. if that kid gets offered drugs by another student and told oh yeah these are awesome youll love it.. they have no other knowledge backing their descision to try it. They will likely believe their friend.
Learning things exist is a good thing.
BRO; NOT ONE OF THOSE KIDS COULD DEFINE THE WORD BINARY IF PROMPTED.
That's the point. They are being TAUGHT these words and definitions. I didn't know what the word Binary meant until I was in highschool. Do you know what binary means?
1 or 0. That's binary. To now project that on to sex and philosophy, these are philosophical arguments. Last I checked there were no 4 year old philosophers. If the kid wants to pretend he's a wolf, cool -- kids do that. If I kid wants to pretend he's someone else, cool, kids do that. If a boy wants to go to school in a dress, no -- that's inappropriate, you are a boy. If when he's an adult, he wants to choose to wear a dress in public, that's cool. Children don't have the data, or maturity to make these decisions. Children are LEARNING, not creating. Their brains are not developed yet.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
a reply to: infolurker
How is this grooming?
I just watched it. One of the kids was first to bring up non-binary. Another kid said "they" all before the teacher even said anything.
It's not -- it's paranoia from adults as we've seen before.
My kid (15) openly talks about non-binary as he says most of his friends are or accept non-binary.
It is their generation -- not the parents. And parents should understand this.
My kid tells me he's a video game character, much the same way I thought I was a super hero at his age.
Doesn't make either cases true.
Do we tell schizophrenics that the voices are real.....?
Look forward to your grandchildren.
Their generation will not be yours.
Empty platitudes?
k..
NO.
I'm on my 4th generation of raising kids.
Each generation evolves. Well -- most do -- some remain stuck.
originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind
There is no such thing as a "non-binary" person. The sooner everyone accepts this fact, the sooner we can get on with the real discussion.
If you view all this stuff in a negative light, fine whatever that's your perogative. But wouldnt that make the case for education surrounding it stronger? Like drugs? If a kid who had no knowledge of drugs and no understanding of them whatsoever, they havee never learned about them, or talked about them.. if that kid gets offered drugs by another student and told oh yeah these are awesome youll love it.. they have no other knowledge backing their descision to try it. They will likely believe their friend.
How is this grooming?
Whether you want trans or non-binary, or people who identify as wolves exist or not.. they do.. and they will.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind
There is no such thing as a "non-binary" person. The sooner everyone accepts this fact, the sooner we can get on with the real discussion.
Won't happen. Cope.
You'd rather have it bared from public discourse?
it's sex ed
get out of your Christian sex dungeons
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
As if religion isn't grooming children.
Anyone seen "Jesus Camp"?
I'll take Love and Accept everyone as they are.
The irony.
The sweet, twisted irony.
Because grooming religion is acceptable for you?
That makes it OK?
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
As if religion isn't grooming children.
Anyone seen "Jesus Camp"?
I'll take Love and Accept everyone as they are.
The irony.
The sweet, twisted irony.
Because grooming religion is acceptable for you?
That makes it OK?
Grooming religion isn't a thing.
Where's my love and acceptance Annee??????
As if religion isn't grooming children.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
As if religion isn't grooming children.
Anyone seen "Jesus Camp"?
I'll take Love and Accept everyone as they are.
The irony.
The sweet, twisted irony.
Because grooming religion is acceptable for you?
That makes it OK?
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: Annee
As if religion isn't grooming children.
Anyone seen "Jesus Camp"?
I'll take Love and Accept everyone as they are.
The irony.
The sweet, twisted irony.
Because grooming religion is acceptable for you?
That makes it OK?
Grooming religion isn't a thing.
Where's my love and acceptance Annee??????
Yes it is.
You just choose not to see it that way.
God is a lie -- non-binary is real people.