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originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
That is wrong, thanks for playing
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: quintessentone
You can see at the beginning that the puppet "Nash" is introduced explicitly as non binary. If she had instead said "what can you tell me about this puppet" they would have said he's a boy puppet. What she did was give them the answer before the question. What is that technique called again? 🤔
I watched the video at 3:25, it is stated the teacher never used the word non-binary until a child used it and that is what it appears on the video.
It was stated that she was explaining what non-binary was because a child asked the question. Is this not true?
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
That is wrong, thanks for playing
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: quintessentone
You can see at the beginning that the puppet "Nash" is introduced explicitly as non binary. If she had instead said "what can you tell me about this puppet" they would have said he's a boy puppet. What she did was give them the answer before the question. What is that technique called again? 🤔
It was stated that she was explaining what non-binary was because a child asked the question. Is this not true?
I watched the video at 3:25, it is stated the teacher never used the word non-binary until a child used it and that is what it appears on the video.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: infolurker
There is no such thing as non-binary.
There are boys and there are girls.
We've gone 100,000 years of men and women and all of a sudden, gender is an option?
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: quintessentone
You can see at the beginning that the puppet "Nash" is introduced explicitly as non binary. If she had instead said "what can you tell me about this puppet" they would have said he's a boy puppet. What she did was give them the answer before the question. What is that technique called again? 🤔
It was stated that the teacher was explaining what non-binary was because a child asked the question. Is this not true?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: quintessentone
You can see at the beginning that the puppet "Nash" is introduced explicitly as non binary. If she had instead said "what can you tell me about this puppet" they would have said he's a boy puppet. What she did was give them the answer before the question. What is that technique called again? 🤔
It was stated that the teacher was explaining what non-binary was because a child asked the question. Is this not true?
That exchange presumably happened before the camera began recording, there's no way to verify her claim. But you can hear multiple kids referring to the doll as a boy, and those kids happen to be girls. Girls who think it's weird and possibly uncomfortable, if I understand facial expressions. So what do you think that means?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: quintessentone
I see a teacher explaining the concept of non binary gender identity to a classroom who are visibly skeptical and even unhappy. But I'm not a child psychologist so it's fair to say I might be assuming.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Annee
As if religion isn't grooming children.
More hate.
Stop trying to use innocent children as weapons for your hatred.
I'd love to see your definition of what constitutes "grooming." One could say that parents get to "groom" children (if you want to take that broad a definition) as long as said "grooming" is not damaging to the children. Others do not. Certainly pedophiles do not.
I consider "grooming" to have a sexual connotation in the context of this discussion. Absolutely I taught my children about sex. That's not just my right; it was my duty as a parent as long as it was done in a manner that is not harmful to the child. It's no one else's right to do so to my children.
TheRedneck
I'm hating????? Oh right -- that's every time I deny God.
NO -- I'm accepting. This is exactly the same as when gay people fought for acceptance and equal rights.
Pushing Mom/Dad is stereotypical grooming.
You just choose not to see it that way.
I would not make assumptions like that without actually being there to witness what transpired.
originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Wow...
So many replies. The replies to my reply in the 1st page that disagreed heavily with me all had 1 thing in common: A huge misunderstanding about what non-binary even is.
Seems like alot of you should be in this class too 🤣
In all seriousness.. Non-Binary has 0 to do with sexuality. Literally nothing. Sexuality is defined by completely different terms.
Non-binary is about gender, and how one views or expresses themselves... It has nothing to do with who they are attracted to.
A non-binary person can be straight, gay, queer, pansexual, sapiosexual, wtc whatever.
Its more about our societies gender norms and where someone falls on that spectrum.
Literally nothing sexual about it.
Agender
A person who is agender does not identify with any particular gender, or they may have no gender at all.
Other terms for this may include:
neutral gender
null-gender
genderless
neutrois
Androgyne
A person who identifies as androgyne has a gender that is either both masculine and feminine or between masculine and feminine.
Bigender
A person who identifies as bigender has two genders.
People who are bigender often display cultural masculine and feminine roles.
Butch
Women, especially lesbians, tend to use this term to describe the way they express masculinity, or what society defines as masculinity.
However, the LGBTQIA Resource Center state that “butch” can also be a gender identity in itself.
Cisgender
A cisgender person identifies with the sex that they were assigned at birth.
For example, a cisgender woman is someone who still identifies with the sex — female, in this case — a doctor assigned them at birth.
Gender expansive
The LGBTQIA Resource Center define gender expansive as an “umbrella term used for individuals who broaden their own culture’s commonly held definitions of gender, including expectations for its expression, identities, roles, and/or other perceived gender norms.”
Those who are gender expansive include people who are transgender and people whose gender broadens the surrounding society’s notion of what gender is.
Genderfluid
A person who identifies as genderfluid has a gender identity and presentation that shifts between, or shifts outside of, society’s expectations of gender.
Gender outlaw
A person who identifies as a gender outlaw refuses to allow society’s definition of “male” or “female” to define them.
Genderqueer
A person who identifies as genderqueer has a gender identity or expression that is not the same as society’s expectations for their assigned sex or assumed gender.
Genderqueer can also refer to a person who identifies outside of how society defines gender or someone who identifies with a combination of genders.
Masculine of center
A person who uses this term is usually a lesbian or a trans person who leans more toward masculine performances and experiences of gender.
Nonbinary
A person who identifies as nonbinary does not experience gender within the gender binary.
People who are nonbinary may also experience overlap with different gender expressions, such as being gender non-conforming.
Omnigender
A person who identifies as omnigender experiences and possesses all genders.
Polygender and pangender
People who identify as polygender or pangender experience and display parts of multiple genders.
Transgender
This is an umbrella term that encompasses all people who experience and identify with a different gender than that which their assigned sex at birth would suggest.
Although most people think of trans men and trans women when hearing the word transgender, this term also encompasses people who identify as a gender other than man or woman, including nonbinary and genderfluid.
Trans
Trans is a more inclusive term that covers those who identify as nonbinary and those who are genderless, according to the LGBTQIA Resource Center.
Two Spirit
Two Spirit is an umbrella term that encompasses different sexualities and genders in Indigenous Native American communities.
Seems like alot of you should be in this class too 🤣
The first step is to figure out what gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, and sex assigned at birth mean and see how you feel about these ideas.
The following table has a non-exhaustive list of pronouns:
He/She/They Him/Her/Them His/Hers/Theirs Himself/Herself/Themself
co co cos coself
en en ens enself
ey em eirs emself
xie hire (“here”) hirs hirself
yo yo yos yoself
ze zir zirs zirself
ve vis ver verself
originally posted by: TzarChasm
That exchange presumably happened before the camera began recording, there's no way to verify or debunk her claim. And I'm not particularly concerned about how she normalized the dialogue because "editing" happens in society all the time. But you can hear multiple kids referring to the doll as a boy, and those kids happen to be girls. Girls who think it's weird and possibly uncomfortable, if I understand facial expressions. So what do you think that means?
originally posted by: Irishhaf
Are more people actually different or are kids learning from their virtue signaling parents?