Texas Supreme Court rules against father seeking to prevent 'chemical castration' of his son

a reply to: Byrd

I doubt anyone is horrified by the gender fluidity of your family members.

However, when I hear that "mommy told me I was the opposite of what I was born as'(paraphrasing obviously), it does ring alarm bells.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: quintessentone

I am not an expert and dont claim to be one, but I have raised 2 girls and now a little boy, all kids have phases and when they get a great deal of positive reinforcement during a particular phase it tends to extend their time in that phase.

Eventually they come through said phase, and there have been a lot of following the "experts" stories out there where people detransition later in life and came to regret the parents and adults in their lives didnt act like an authority figure when it came to permanent life altering choices.

Maybe its a legitimate diagnosis, but the problem is gender affirming care always ends with a transition, and we are coming to understand that in many cases that transition ends in the child being unable to reproduce.

I have also raised a son and daughter and I've also observed all their friends along the way, and not one of the boys in the different groups ever wanted to try on girl's dresses or imitate the lead female characters from Disney movies, so I don't know what specific phases you have experienced that your children tried and rejected, but IMO the specific case in this thread should not be compared to anything else because each child is experiencing their own realities and experiences and we as parents should help them along, with counselling if needed, to understanding. Now some parents I see will need counselling of their own for adapting and acceptance.

a reply to: Boadicea

I know that's the law, and therefore legally this judgment is the "correct" one, BUT it's a crappy law and its statutory precedence doesn't make it morally right. Children and teenagers do not have the knowledge, experience or good judgment to make such a decision. And no one has the right to make such a decision for them.

Texans are notorious for erring in favor of honor, even if honor feels like a steel toe in the gonads, because in theory honor comes back to those who deserve it. Furthermore, a child isn't making this decision, his mother is. Refer to my previous comments.

Also, to any current or former Texans in this forum, please correct me if the above observation is off the mark.

He probably should have. But I think it has just as much to do with inadequate and ineffective conflict management skills -- like a lot of couples who cannot even find a happy medium on trivial matters. Throw something like this at them, and they're clueless and helpless. And, too often, ego and pride get in the way of finding a reasonable middle ground.

I agree that it's a sad story, but the child is a Texan and as such co parenting regulations in a divorced family are determined by Texan legislation. Ego and pride come with the idiots who thought getting pregnant would fix their broken marriage, not the judge who has to choose the best role model and provider.

This is a very slippery slope with lots of room for abuse.

In other words, this woman is a political target because "feelz". Thoroughly established on the previous page (click back to carefully read the exchange) both the title of this topic and author VNex heavily misrepresented the actual substance of the disagreement. Ergo my "feelz" summation.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Furthermore, a child isn't making this decision, his mother is.

Understood. Hence my point that no one has the right to make such a decision for them. Hence, no one should be making this decision now. When the child is 18, the child can make the decision themselves.

In other words, this woman is a political target because "feelz". Thoroughly established on the previous page (click back to carefully read the exchange) both the title of this topic and author VNex heavily misrepresented the actual substance of the disagreement. Ergo my "feelz" summation.

Yeah, it isn't an accident that I didn't reply directly to the OP.

Unfortunately, everything about transgenderism is about "feelz" -- starting with those who feel like the opposite gender, or both genders, or neither gender, or a completely new gender someone feels. When the entire house of cards is built on the intangible and the subjective, then the "solutions" are likewise intangible and subjective.

"Don't look at the very real health issues and long-term adverse effects... the fantasy feelz so darn good!"

So of course the rebuttal is also going to be about the "feelz." If it's all about how the child feels, or how the mother feels, then it's also all about how the detractors feel. I'm certainly not condoning it, but it's just the nature of the beast.

a reply to: Boadicea

The irony is that "feelz" should somehow override other "feelz". Which is a curious flavor of hypocrisy.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Boadicea

The irony is that "feelz" should somehow override other "feelz". Which is a curious flavor of hypocrisy.

Indeed.

And not only ironic, sometimes it becomes downright surreal. Not just this topic either. It's like The Song That Never Ends... only it's The Argument That Never Ends.

Forgive me... I can't resist 😝

a reply to: quintessentone

One of the little girls I raised thought she was a boy for a long time, till she didnt.

A friend of the wife's has gender dysphoria and he is glad they didnt try any of this when he was a kid because then he wouldnt have his kids.

Decisions are being made for kids that shouldnt be made by others.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: quintessentone

One of the little girls I raised thought she was a boy for a long time, till she didnt.

A friend of the wife's has gender dysphoria and he is glad they didnt try any of this when he was a kid because then he wouldnt have his kids.

Decisions are being made for kids that shouldnt be made by others.

Decisions for children should be made in the best interest of the wellbeing of said child, not for parents 'feelz'.

The problem with 'gender affirming care' is that is complete and utter horse #.

Why don't people be HONEST about EXACTLY what it is.

Interceding in human biological development by artficial means ending with an irrevocable decision made by someone NOT themselves.

Flat out barbarism.

originally posted by: neo96
The problem with 'gender affirming care' is that is complete and utter horse #.

Why don't people be HONEST about EXACTLY what it is.

Interceding in human biological development by artficial means ending with an irrevocable decision made by someone NOT themselves.

Flat out barbarism.

That's not what this thread is about, this thread is about what is the best decision to take regarding if a child expresses a behavior that does not conform with what the parents expect and/or want. In this case, and this thread, there will be no interceding in human biological development by artificial means, the only interceding will be in monitoring the child's behavior at this point by the mother, doctor, and counsellor until the child turns 18 yrs. old; that is what I read from all the information provided.

a reply to: quintessentone

It isn't ?

Younger was married to pediatrician Georgulas. Georgulas and Younger ended up in court fighting over the children when she believed that James, Younger's 7-year-old, wanted to live as a girl called Luna.

Fracking TROLL someone else.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: quintessentone

It isn't ?

Younger was married to pediatrician Georgulas. Georgulas and Younger ended up in court fighting over the children when she believed that James, Younger's 7-year-old, wanted to live as a girl called Luna.

Fracking TROLL someone else.

Learn to read all the sources, especially the court documents.

a reply to: quintessentone

I god damn did.

Luna
Specifically, James is a gender expamivel or transgender child and, by choice, now goes
by the name Luna and is only klown by her classmates as a girl

Genderexpansive is a term, which is anadjeclive used to describc people thal idenlify or expr€ss lhemselvq id ways
tllat broaden the culturally defincd behavior or expression associsted wilh ore's nalal gender.

Now where does a kid get that s#

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: quintessentone

I god damn did.

Luna
Specifically, James is a gender expamivel or transgender child and, by choice, now goes
by the name Luna and is only klown by her classmates as a girl

Genderexpansive is a term, which is anadjeclive used to describc people thal idenlify or expr€ss lhemselvq id ways
tllat broaden the culturally defincd behavior or expression associsted wilh ore's nalal gender.

[url=https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-texas-supreme-court-rules-against-father-seeking-to-prevent-chemical-castration-of-his-son]Now where does a KID get that s#?

All that is revealed about what this child knows or doesn't know, in the court documents and his mother and counsellor, is that he/she wants to imitate Luna, a female lead from a Disney movie and he enjoys trying on girl's dresses, as well as enjoying boy's activities/behaviors too. What others in his/her orbit now know is how to be inclusive and care about his/her wellbeing by following the counsellor's suggestions for not upsetting James/Luna as his father has done.

a reply to: quintessentone

If the potential is there that they might want to return to original gender and have a family and the procedure could render them sterile the decision should not be made for gender affirmation treatment.

Irreversible damage done to the human body should never rest on the shoulders of a child, a 7 year old does not know.

a reply to: vNex92


That is horrible. I think these stupid mothers have Munchausen by proxy, always looking for attention or disability payments for themselves.

Horrible

Can’t wait for God to lay the smack down!

a reply to: TzarChasm

This is honestly the stupidest reply I have ever seen on ATS. Congrats.