German nurse avoids jail after injecting thousands with saltwater shot instead COVID vaccine

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I am sure she would have been able to collect a lot of information as many of us have found in relation to vaccine injuries in her country. Germany is quite big and with a high population.

We can a see who is in denial here and engaging in vaccine apologetics.
edit on 9-12-2022 by Asmodeus3 because: (no reason given)

You're sure are you, or is that an assumption again??

Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning.
CHARLES TREMPER

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I am sure she would have been able to collect a lot of information as many of us have found in relation to vaccine injuries in her country. Germany is quite big and with a high population.

We can a see who is in denial here and engaging in vaccine apologetics.
edit on 9-12-2022 by Asmodeus3 because: (no reason given)

You're sure are you, or is that an assumption again??

Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning.
CHARLES TREMPER

Yes pretty sure.

I am also sure that she knew a lot of cases of vaccine injuries and that's why she acted the way she acted. Although I would have acted differently by asking to be excempt from the vaccination campaign without resigning.

The judges were not convinced of her motives as it says in the article. But we know what her motives are.

It seems that it's not only nurses and hospital staff that are not convinced of the safety and effectiveness of these vaccines...

Good that she didn't receive jail time.

Those who most face justice are those who coerced, pressured, intimidated, and threatened purple with dismissal, if they chose not to get vaccinated with potentially hazardous products.


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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Today, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo has announced new guidance regarding mRNA vaccines. The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety.

This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac-related death among men in this age group. Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks.

As such, the State Surgeon General recommends against males aged 18 to 39 from receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. Those with preexisting cardiac conditions, such as myocarditis and pericarditis, should take particular caution when making this decision

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You just make assumption after assumption and try to pass them off as fact, they are not.


This really isn't about the thread but anyway, you really do like posting about Dr J. Ladapo, don't you..

Since his appointment, Ladapo has faced several controversies related to his career and personal choices.
They include: It was alleged that he had been the fast-tracking hiring personality in the department affecting the university, which had a tremendous political influence.
The critics cited that Ladapo had been a vocal supporter of DeSantis's COVID-19 policies and was associated with America's Frontline Doctors, a far-right and pro-trump group known for promoting falsehoods about the pandemic.
He previously promoted unproven treatments against COVID-19, opposing the COVID-19 vaccine requirements and questioning the safety protocols of COVID-19.
In October 2021, he refused to wear a mask during a meeting with Tina Polsky and failed to reveal whether he was vaccinated. Six days later, he stated that it was vital for him to communicate clearly with his patients, which he couldn't do with half of his face covered.

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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — New coronavirus guidelines by the Florida Department of Health are causing controversy and confusion...

"It's difficult. They're asking us to essentially change our practice patterns that we had dictated — or at least informed by the CDC by national organizations — and they're turning that on its head with nothing to really back it up," Dr. Ethan Chapin, a doctor in Palm Beach County.

He and Dr. Jessica Steier, a public health doctor, said the study has major red flags that don't allow experts to support whether the findings are in fact accurate or not.

The doctors also cite issues with who was used for the study and the sample size involved.

“Another big red flag for me is that there are only 20 people who died, so we're basing the entire conclusion on 20 deaths," Steier said. "From a statistical point of view, that's an extremely small sample size."

a reply to: Kurokage

Florida has changed the recommendations following evidence for cardiac related deaths due to the vaccines.

Vaccines are not longer recommended for males in the age group 18-39

Very strong evidence I would say. As a result the Department of Health of Florida is not recommending mRNA vaccines for this age group.
Fact and not assumption .

Trying to present Dr Ladapo as a controversial figure is just absurd.

I know it doesn't suit your narrative but that is the reality.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

And that has what to do with this thread??
You posted about your crazy hero here and are causing thread drift yet again to try to back up your incorrect and incoherent claims.

You assume the nurse had proof, she was struck off for her actions. If the proof she had was legitimate then it wasn't very good was it? Maybe try to find where she posted it and try again...

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

And that has what to do with this thread??
You posted your hero here and are tthe causing thread drift yet again to try to back up your incorrect claims.

You assume the nurse had proof, she was struck off for her actions. If the proof she had was legitimate then it wasn't very good was it? Maybe try to find where she posted it and try again...

Everything is relevant when it comes to serious adverse reactions.

The nurse seems to have had knowledge of the issues involved with this vaccine and that's why she acted the way she acted. In addition she is a nurse and may have witnessed personally or through her colleagues similar events. I never said it was a hero. Some others did. You are mistaken as usual.

The reality is that the judges didn't want to jail her and there are reasons for this.

As one of the Italian members of the European Parliament said: This is the greatest medical scandal in history.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Lawyers are drooling over this. The judgement just set her and whoever she worked for up for civil suits. Any of those could come back and sue and if someone was hospitalized for Covid ...CHA CHING !

That was my first thought.

This is not over.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

The nurse seems to have had knowledge of the issues involved with this vaccine and that's why she acted the way she acted. In addition she is a nurse and may have witnessed personally or through her colleagues similar events.

Again, you're making assumptions based soley on your own bias here and trying to pass them off as facts. You're wrong.

The reality is that the judges didn't want to jail her and there are reasons for this.

She recieved a suspended sentence and could go to jail if she commits any other crimes. So in reality other than your opinion theses aren't the facts.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Lawyers are drooling over this. The judgement just set her and whoever she worked for up for civil suits. Any of those could come back and sue and if someone was hospitalized for Covid ...CHA CHING !

That was my first thought.

This is not over.

I would imagine the Nurse will be dragged through civil court numerous times. She'll be lucky if she's able to afford a shoe box to live in.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

The nurse seems to have had knowledge of the issues involved with this vaccine and that's why she acted the way she acted. In addition she is a nurse and may have witnessed personally or through her colleagues similar events.

Again, you're making assumptions based soley on your own bias here and trying to pass them off as facts. You're wrong.

The reality is that the judges didn't want to jail her and there are reasons for this.

She recieved a suspended sentence and could go to jail if she commits any other crimes. So in reality other than your opinion theses aren't the facts.

More like educated guesses rather than unsubstantiated assumptions.

The reality is that therevis no bias. She knew what she was doing and she seems to have been aware of the numerous side effects. Just as many of us are. If you are a nurse you also have access to patients and first hand knowledge in most cases.

The judges were not convinced that she deserved to go to jail. You need to deal with this.

originally posted by: Kurokage

There is a big difference between withholding treatment and making a personal choice to err on the side of caution albeit for another.

One is morally wrong, the other might also be but it's a kind of Sophie's choice for medical people. Ethically, a nurse or doctor should stand their ground and quit in these cases but it brings up a dilemma of leaving the medical system bleeding out ethical staff. I'd be torn if I was in this situation myself but this nurse did it because she cared about the outcome being dangerous to the best of her knowledge not because she was a closet psychopath withholding treatment. Different crime.

Like I said before in the thread, this isn't just about covid vaccinations.
This is a healthcare professional allowing there personal beliefs to interfere with their professional duties. I included a link in an earlier post to the U.K. version of a code of ethics..

The Code presents the professional standards that nurses, midwives and nursing associates must uphold in order to be registered to practise in the UK.

www.nmc.org.uk...
I believe all Nurses sign and follow a similar code, which this Nurse must have done to practice.
A persons religious, political or any other beliefs should not be allowed to interfere with the job a health practioner has signed up to do, this wasn't a professional judgement she made, and it wasn't hers to make.

She decided to not inject an experimental concoction into her patients for fear of unknown adverse effects. That makes sense. That's ethical.

Now what isn't ethical would be dancing on the job in the middle of a pandemic, whilst the hospitals were supposedly at full capacity and people were allegedly struggling to survive in the rooms next door.

Dance Dance Revolution: Covid Edition!

Not professional in the slightest. Not ethical in any rulebook. But the garbage NHS needed those Tiktok likes, far more important!

a reply to: baggy7981

Lighten up, mate?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

More like educated guesses rather than unsubstantiated assumptions.

But after asking multiple members personal questions about their education you have refused to reveal yours?!?!?
So I'm going with uneducated guess...

The judges were not convinced that she deserved to go to jail. You need to deal with this.

I know she didn't go to jail but it also appears you don't know what a suspended sentense is, and why do I "need to deal with this" ??

a reply to: baggy7981

She decided to not inject an experimental concoction into her patients for fear of unknown adverse effects. That makes sense. That's ethical.

Well, it's no longer an experimental vaccine, and the Nurse going against her code of conduct is unethical, which is why she was struck off.

As for the "Dance" vid, I see it as just a why for them to blow of some steam,and have a bit of fun in a very stressful job or are you jealous of their moves!!

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: M5xaz

" Major New Autopsy Report Reveals Those Who Died Suddenly Were Likely Killed by the Covid Vaccine "

" The report, published in Clinical Research in Cardiology, the official journal of the German Cardiac Society, detailed autopsies carried out at Heidelberg University Hospital in 2021. Led by Thomas Longerich and Peter Schirmacher, it found that in five deaths that occurred within a week of the first or second dose of vaccination with Pfizer or Moderna, inflammation of the heart tissue due to an autoimmune response triggered by the vaccine had likely or possibly caused the death."


Many More People are Dying from " Sudden Death/Heart Attack " , And the Reality of the Numbers Shows that the " Vaccines/Gene Therapy " ARE The DIRECT CAUSE................





dailysceptic.org...

When will the population finally wake up ? ....

a reply to: baggy7981

Oh, the outrage.....

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

More like educated guesses rather than unsubstantiated assumptions.

But after asking multiple members personal questions about their education you have refused to reveal yours?!?!?
So I'm going with uneducated guess...

The judges were not convinced that she deserved to go to jail. You need to deal with this.

I know she didn't go to jail but it also appears you don't know what a suspended sentense is, and why do I "need to deal with this" ??

An educated guess is very different to revealing someone's education...

Yes it is an educated guess that the nurse has access to information and has seen or heard about vaccine adverse reactions and injuries. She is a nurse after all.

I am aware what has happened to her.
But the judges didn't want to jail her. They couldn't see her 'motives'. If we believe in this excuse.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

But you can?

originally posted by: baggy7981

originally posted by: Kurokage

There is a big difference between withholding treatment and making a personal choice to err on the side of caution albeit for another.

One is morally wrong, the other might also be but it's a kind of Sophie's choice for medical people. Ethically, a nurse or doctor should stand their ground and quit in these cases but it brings up a dilemma of leaving the medical system bleeding out ethical staff. I'd be torn if I was in this situation myself but this nurse did it because she cared about the outcome being dangerous to the best of her knowledge not because she was a closet psychopath withholding treatment. Different crime.

Like I said before in the thread, this isn't just about covid vaccinations.
This is a healthcare professional allowing there personal beliefs to interfere with their professional duties. I included a link in an earlier post to the U.K. version of a code of ethics..

The Code presents the professional standards that nurses, midwives and nursing associates must uphold in order to be registered to practise in the UK.

www.nmc.org.uk...
I believe all Nurses sign and follow a similar code, which this Nurse must have done to practice.
A persons religious, political or any other beliefs should not be allowed to interfere with the job a health practioner has signed up to do, this wasn't a professional judgement she made, and it wasn't hers to make.

She decided to not inject an experimental concoction into her patients for fear of unknown adverse effects. That makes sense. That's ethical.

Now what isn't ethical would be dancing on the job in the middle of a pandemic, whilst the hospitals were supposedly at full capacity and people were allegedly struggling to survive in the rooms next door.

Dance Dance Revolution: Covid Edition!

Not professional in the slightest. Not ethical in any rulebook. But the garbage NHS needed those Tiktok likes, far more important!

If I had issues with the vaccination campaign as a nurse then I would have asked to be excempt from the vaccination campaign and refer the matter in writing to my manager or head nurse. Pointing out the flaws in the vaccine campaign, the concerns by other nurses and doctors, the known severe adverse reactions, and the scandals menu of these Pharmaceuticals have been involved.

Indeed the vaccine is experimental at this stage and never been tested in humans before. Everything was rushed and even they forgot to test for transmission which is scandalous.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

An educated guess is very different to revealing someone's education...

Yes it is an educated guess that the nurse has access to information and has seen or heard about vaccine adverse reactions and injuries. She is a nurse after all.

I am aware what has happened to her.
But the judges didn't want to jail her. They couldn't see her 'motives'. If we believe in this excuse.

So it's an uneducated guess made from up from your biased assumptions? Or you have an understanding of German law and Nursing regulations then?