U.S. personnel now in Ukraine

originally posted by: Timucuan

With the recent increase in rhetoric from Russia blaming the U.K. Navy for Nordstream and claims of the U.K. Navy assisting with the Crimea bridge sabotage things appear to be hearing up quickly.

Not sure I'd call it "rhetoric". Unless of course you are naive enough to think Russia would destroy it's own infrastructure and throw away one if it's biggest bargaining chips over Europe. There is about 50 western officials on the record calling for the destruction of NordStream. But yeah it's Russia.

In regards to the op. There has been plenty of evidence of UK an US personal on the ground in Ukraine for months now. How else would Ukraine be so coordinated all of the sudden?

The Kiev regime couldn't put down the Donbas rebels for 8 years, yet I'm told to believe they are absolutely trouncing the Russians all on their own? Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see something isn't adding up here.

In reality the US is designating targets for the Ukranians. So when Ukraine drops a cluster bomb in a residential area it was approved by the American government.
Just more evidence the US government is the biggest terrorist organization on the planet...

Just what we need. Involvement in another war. 👎🏻

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I bet most Afghans would refuse to fight for Russia anyway,if they know their history.

How many would be willing to fight for the US/NATO side? considering after 20 years of US bombing their villages pretending that they had being bombing villages due over terrorists in the area.

Majority of Afghans no longer trust the US.

Fair point.
I never supported the neocon afghan war,or the way biden #ed up the withdrawal.

I doubt many afghans would want to fight for either team in Ukraine TBH.
The only ones who do it would only be doing it for money anyway.
Russia should be careful-this could be a way for AQ/Isis to try to infiltrate.
They hate Russia after whats gone down in Syria.

a reply to: JAY1980

Give the list of 50 western officials on the record calling for the destruction of NordStream.

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: Timucuan

With the recent increase in rhetoric from Russia blaming the U.K. Navy for Nordstream and claims of the U.K. Navy assisting with the Crimea bridge sabotage things appear to be hearing up quickly.

Not sure I'd call it "rhetoric". Unless of course you are naive enough to think Russia would destroy it's own infrastructure and throw away one if it's biggest bargaining chips over Europe. There is about 50 western officials on the record calling for the destruction of NordStream. But yeah it's Russia.

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I call it rhetoric because that is the appropriate vernacular to describe someone using words or language in a decisive and persuasive manner. I never said or implied that Russia sabatoged their own infrastructure so I don't know where you get that assumption from.

As far as the Kiev regime, like I said, Biden and his families meddling in their energy policies and manipulating their government officials and structure is a big reason for all of this. Which in turn has created a fiat government in country composed of minions that Biden obviously has a connection to as evident by the circulated "Quid quo pro" video from a few years ago and Bidens insistence on sending our tax dollars to a corrupt regime.

However now the U.S. is openly admitting to helping Ukraine not only financially and logistically. You don't really think that Putin believes that these people are "monitors" do you? That's just a big cover story and Putin knows it and anyone with any knowledge of how ops work knows it too.

Putin has said that if U.S. or NATO involve themselves then it's going to escalate, so Biden says "Hold my Ensure".

I'm not a peace nic but I don't believe in risking American lives over a bunch of B.S. that was caused by a senile old crook and his drug addict son.

I heard AL Qaeda went in there like a month ago. Now US...

originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
a reply to: ufoorbhunter
"They said the Russians want to attract thousands of the former elite Afghan commandos into a “foreign legion” with offers of steady, $1,500-a-month payments "

I am sure that money will be paid in a reliable manner.

The russian soldiers and volunteers have been complaining of not getting paid(or fed,or armed)since day one,but I am sure Putin will make sure these Afghans who he wants as more cannon meat will get juicy paychecks on time.

I bet most Afghans would refuse to fight for Russia anyway,if they know their history.

Putin here is going after battle hardened Afgahn special forces, not the clocking on manager at Lada. These guys will be well trained and worth every dollar they get paid. Wagner group will be paying them fairly. Their US training should come in handy too and of value to Russia.

These guys were pretty much sold out at the end of the Afghan War, Btitain did the same with its native employess and left loads of interpreters over there to be hunted down and slaughtered by the Taliban.

$1,500 is a lot of dosh to an Afghan plus they just love to fight. My Kashmiri friend from Pakistan said they are crazy, when there's nobody else to fight against they turn their guns on their own and fight between themselves, they just can't stop fighting

a reply to: ufoorbhunter


Former Afgan goverment forces were not so battle hardened .....did you mean Taliban ?


Afghan war whistleblower Daniel Davis: 'I had to speak out – lives are at stake'

A tale of two armies: why Afghan forces proved no match for the Taliban

a reply to: Timucuan

More than likely Green Berets or some other special forces are there training Ukrainian soldiers. Or actively doing recon of some sort.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they are carrying out some missions to assess Russian soldiers tactics up close.

a reply to: Kenzo

Ayup Kenzo. Was referring to the Afghan special forces trained up by Yanks

When! joe's handlers see that he Will lose the election
they will do a false flag so that joe will have war pawers!
could they do it as close as afters the votes?
just before Trump is signd in?

I 10kt nuc on a city in ukraine.
I bet the CIA has in on the boarder now.

Well Joe in his speech clearly said the US was at war when he accused oil companies from wartime profiteering.

The only time one can wartime profiteer is when one is at war.

So Joe has started a war with Russia in Ukraine?

Maybe Putin is right that a nuclear apocalypse isn't far behind. Thanks Joe, of course Republicans all along knew he was war hungry from his past history of encouraging the US to go to war.

Bet Joe and the Dems are thrilled and the media is having chills run up and down their legs, because normally a President is reelected during wartime. So what better way to keep the Presidency than to get the US involved in WWIII. Sounds like this is how they plan to win the next election, put the US in the middle of a war that may turn nuclear. Good thinking Dems.

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: Timucuan

They WANT war, they NEED war.

Not Russia, the lefties....

Yet its ruZZIa who attacked its non-NATO neighbor in an invasion to get land and resources? (again).. interesting.

Maybe, just maybe NATO countries are... safe from ruZZian aggression perhaps?

a reply to: xuenchen

Yesterday Biden referred to high gas prices being a fault of being at war.

And now you believe what Biden says? Hmmm

originally posted by: BigfootNZ

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: Timucuan

They WANT war, they NEED war.

Not Russia, the lefties....

Yet its ruZZIa who attacked its non-NATO neighbor in an invasion to get land and resources? (again).. interesting.

Maybe, just maybe NATO countries are... safe from ruZZian aggression perhaps?

As you've admitted.

WTF does this have to do with NATO?

a reply to: Timucuan
You guys didn't know? Huh

originally posted by: schuyler
We have had a small contingent in Ukraine for decades. It's not new information, just new to those people who have recently discovered it. They aren't armed. They are usually instructors teaching the Ukranians how to use advanced systems such as HIMARS. We also have a small contingent in Russia.

Sounds like another place and another time.
You do remember Vietnam , correct ?
If you don't , read up on it
"Nuff Said"

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: Timucuan

Ben Wallace has been 'visiting' Ukraine every year since 2014................... Now we get US personnel, it's all pre planned. Ukraine is a puppet of the West through it's coup installed government. Oh and by the way, read this..........................................

You couln't make it up.............Afghan special forces trained up by the Anglos now fighting for Russia in Ukraine! www.theguardian.com... "Afghan special forces soldiers who fought alongside American troops and then fled to Iran after the chaotic US withdrawal last year are now being recruited by the Russian military to fight in Ukraine, three former Afghan generals have told the Associated Press.

They said the Russians want to attract thousands of the former elite Afghan commandos into a “foreign legion” with offers of steady, $1,500-a-month payments and promises of safe havens for themselves and their families so they can avoid deportation home to what many assume would be death at the hands of the Taliban."

It's insane, Nato and Ukraine have started paying Isis and Al Quada fighters shipped in from Idlib in Syria to fight Russia in Ukraine.

originally posted by: Bishop2199
a reply to: Timucuan

It's more likely that this will end in a United States operation, not NATO. According to the article, US forces have recently entered Ukraine to assess and inspect weapons deliveries from the US.

When asked what the U.S. Department of Defense personnel could do inside the Ukraine, the defense official said DoD personnel are assessing various equipment needs but “otherwise, our role is to support our civilian agency counterparts if they should request our assistance as they support the Ukrainians.”

Most likely because there were reports only about 30% of the billions in aid the US was sending to Ukraine was actually being received at the front line

It's not secret Biden has moved troops from Afghanistan to Ukraine to fight his personal war.