Red Rooms - I know the skepticism is high with these, but could there be some truth?

So, what's the reason that most people doubt red rooms exist?

Just a lack of actual proof? Skepticism over evidence, and creepy pastas being used as evidence.

Its a lot like the UFO phenomenon in some ways.
What it comes down to is doubting the testimony of the so called 'witnesses'.

This is couple with a general weariness in regards to the hoaxes and made up stuff:

www.youtube.com...

I mean look at a video like this, so called proof which includes a reddit creepy pasta as evidence?

But then, actual shared footage of certain creepy experiences does add to it.
We know that Tor and browsers like this are used for nefarious things, child porn and weapons distribution being not remotely uncommon.

Is it possible there are a group or groups of like minded sick individuals who congregate share and upload this type of snuff content to be enjoyed by those able to pay their way.

Somehow it doesn't seem that unlikely, given everything we have learned in the last ten years, Epstein's contact with celebrities, presidents and the Royal Family, Saville and the British institutionalisation of paedophilia...

Is it really that hard to believe?

This question has come up quite a few times over the... I dunno, 15 years I think I've been here. I've argued multiple times that it's not a possibility on TOR. It's too slow, very few people know how to configure everything to be truly anonymous and even then it all depends on the exit node.

That being said, I'm absolutely positive that they exist in some corner of the internet. If it's disgusting, depraved, awful, something that should be punishable by death... It's somewhere online. You just need to know where to look or know the right people.

a reply to: TheCaretaker05

I like what Buzzkill Wiki says:

A red room is a composite urban legend. It is allegedly a hidden website or service on the "dark web" where you can see and/or participate in interactive torture or murder. It is essentially the snuff film legend retold for the YouTube era. It is similar to other moral panics involving the so-called dark web in that it was made popular by uncritical reports provided by both traditional and social media. The phenomenon is an example of the Woozle effect, where publications are continuously built upon misleading citations. According to technology writer and researcher Eric Pudalov, red rooms do not exist: "It's near-impossible to stream live video over the Tor network (or even other anonymity networks like I2P and Freenet). So, that would render a service like a red room (i.e. a site that streams live torture and murder) impossible, and certainly not profitable.

But what does exist is even more disturbing. There's a disturbing number of red rooms in the form of caged people and children in basement holes with cctv cameras. Been enough that miraculously escape to show it's a thing people do.

Cartel does rat killing live sometimes. Or has in internet's slightly more distant past. Seen clips of a few brutal ones. In one MS13 found out about a rat informant, found him and his nephew, and live-streamed their killing by chainsaw on a gore site. And that was on the regular web.

While completely plausible psychologically for culture I think the limitations of the technology prevents it on the dark web. Unless Rationalwiki is behind technology.

a reply to: TheCaretaker05

I've only heard of this in movies.

Interesting.

a reply to: Magnivea

Yes exactly. Logic dictates it'll be there somewhere on the internet

Rule 34 of the internet

a reply to: Degradation33

So the truth is creepier and more disturbing. I think that's what you're saying

a reply to: Degradation33

So, that would render a service like a red room (i.e. a site that streams live torture and murder) impossible, and certainly not profitable.

This last bit is bollocks. When looking at the target audience of some of these services, there is plenty of profit. The movie 'Hostel' gets into one angle of it. There are collections of snuff movies around, not all of this is about the money. People die, people want to know what that is about. But as for the Red rooms, expect to pay big if you want someone else to kidnap and clean up your mess as you play around with sick, twisted and perverted ideas.

With some of what has gone around with the adrenochrome trade, profits are massive. People will pay everything they have for an elixir of youth.

Being a black market industry, it has its risk if you want to go shopping. Having plenty of money and wanting to buy more will will help avoid you being the next victim for the next customer.

As for how much exactly of this business is going on is a hazy one to find out. With how many people go missing and never seen again, will account for a few of them. Ronald Benard is one that has spoken out about his invitation into human sacrifice from an extremely wealthy globalist club. That ended as it does for anyone that breaks the black market rules, he did not live much longer after talking.

I didn't know this was even a debate

When to comes to sick things humans do it's never just a myth

a reply to: Degradation33

Be careful what you search for....you just might find it.

a reply to: kwakakev

Only question I have is why Adrenochrome went from a hallucinogenic drug to immortality elixir without anyone seeing something off. It went from a horrible drug that fries holes in your brain and causes strokes and aneurysms, along with temporary schizophrenia, to a Temple of the Vampire protein shake.

And the dark web is full of drug dealers so I dont doubt that it is sold.

This is Adrenochrome:

* WARNING sensitive adult, violence, and drug content *



Was it this obscure part of Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas that is the origin of combining Satanism and adrenochrome? Definitely started well after 1971 and 1997. It's a strange choice for a crazy cult drug.

It's not exactly a youth drug. Or anything that improves your life or health. Like taking radium pills to live longer...

Guess en vogue people might be dumb enough to fry their brains... objection withdrawn.

1 million% believe it, and hostel type set ups.
Serial killers' version of a gaming console, and other sick fks that have no place in this earth. 😠

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a reply to: Degradation33

Trying to find details on exactly how to collect and refine Adrenochrome is not easy, which is a good thing. In a general sense it is associated to the blood of a traumatized victim with it history going back thousands of years. Depending on how it is made will affect the quality and the overall effect of the product.

Jessie Czebotar is one who has provided a lot of interviews on being raised on micro doses of Adrenochrome. When intentionally getting a stronger dose it sent her into a blood rage. When on the constant smaller doses she functioned better. She named people like John Brenon and Micheal Aquino as the suppliers.

Given all the other depravity on line, I am sure there is something somewhere.

Plenty of snuff videos and other gore, so a red room is not out of the question imho. Some of the cartel and middle east videos are nightmare inducing.

If you stream it, they will come.

a reply to: TheCaretaker05

never heard the term red room before but once I understood the thread I can only bring sad news

Peter Scully pure human scum

Scully operated a secret dark web child pornography website known as "No limits fun" ("NLF").[3] The most notorious video Scully produced was Daisy's Destruction, which he sold on his site to clients for up to $10,000.[3] Made in 2012, the multi-part video is so extreme that it was for some time regarded as an urban legend.[6] It features the torture and rape of three girls by Scully and two Filipina women.[7] Urged on by Scully, some of the most severe physical abuse was carried out on the children by one of his girlfriends, then 19-year-old Liezyl Margallo, who was formerly trafficked as a child.[8][9]

a reply to: UpThenDown

Yikes. Kinda f***d up