"Unicerosaurus", a fish spine mistaken for a horn of a biblical dinosaur-like beast

In 1982, a creationist, Carl Baugh, was excavating fossils in the middle Cretaceous deposits of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose, Texas (best known for its dinosaur tracks), when he found a solitary Y-shaped fossil in those deposits. He believed that the Y-shaped bone was the forehead horn of a distinct dinosaur similar to the biblical unicorn mentioned in Job 38, and thus informally named the fossil "Unicerosaurus". A museum in Texas founded by Carl Baugh stated that the supposed horn was able to fold back like the blade of a jack knife. However, Armstrong (1987) pointed out that the fossil that Baugh dubbed "Unicerosaurus" was actually a neural spine of a prehistoric ray-finned fish similar to the Late Cretaceous Xiphactinus. Baugh was always adamant in his belief that the dinosaur tracks near Glen Rose that superficially resembled human footprints were proof that dinosaurs and humans lived together, and his characterization of the Xiphactinus-like neural spine as being a dinosaur similar to the biblical unicorn was another manifestation of his Young Earth creationist beliefs.

Armstrong, J.,R., 1987. Creation/Evolution Newsletter 7 5:21; Geolog. 16, Part 4.

So the "creationist" made an "educated guess", ... just like all the other "scientist"?

What's your point OP?

Sounds just as bad as flat out fabricating remains to fit a popular scientific theory. (Coughpiltdownmancough)
I'm with Murphy22. The OP seems incomplete

a reply to: Potlatch

Which verse in Job 38?

Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

3Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

8Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?

9When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

10And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

11And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

12Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

13That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

14It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

15And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.

16Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?

17Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

18Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.

19Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,

20That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?

21Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?

22Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

23Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?

24By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?

25Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;

26To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;

27To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?

28Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?

29Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

30The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.

31Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

32Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

33Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?

34Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?

35Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?

36Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?

37Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,

38When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?

39Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,

40When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?

41Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

Well said, "documented".
"Science", in a lot of ways, has already been provided for us.

I think the textual recognition programming is failing on this bot. It's not making sense in any post

originally posted by: murphy22
So the "creationist" made an "educated guess", ... just like all the other "scientist"?

What's your point OP?

Zactly !

And everyone believes that their science : is the only correct science.

We have entered the era of scientific-dictatorships = Technocracy™.

And their science of choice : they sell as the ONLY science = Scientism™.

But those are just my beliefs = another-know-it-all-know-nothing-opinion. ... LoL !!

a reply to: Potlatch


Show me the verse in Job 38. You made a statement about biblical unicorn mentioned in Job 38. Where does it say that?

No one here has an answer?

Why are we having a conversation about nonsense?
How about the part where it talks about Santa claus?

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: Potlatch


Show me the verse in Job 38. You made a statement about biblical unicorn mentioned in Job 38. Where does it say that?

No one here has an answer?

Why are we having a conversation about nonsense?
How about the part where it talks about Santa claus?

Verse 39 of the Book of Jobs makes mention of the biblical unicorn:

Job 39:9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

Job 39:10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

Aww, so unicorns aren't real, but the cave in North Korea....

a reply to: Potlatch

Give me a few minutes and Ill go back to the original words in Hebrew are.

Canst thou bindH7194 the unicornH7214 with his bandH5688 in the furrow?H8525 orH518 will he harrowH7702 the valleysH6010 afterH310 thee? 


H7214
רֵם    רֵים    רְאֵים    רְאֵם
re'êm    re'êym    rêym    rêm
reh-ame', reh-ame', rame, rame
From H7213; a wild bull (from its conspicuousness): - unicorn.
Total KJV occurrences: 9


אָבָה
'âbâh
aw-baw'
A primitive root; to breathe after, that is (figuratively) to be acquiescent: - consent, rest content, will, be willing.
Total KJV occurrences: 54עֲבֹתָה    עֲבוֹת    עֲבֹת
‛ăbôth    ‛ăbôth    ‛ăbôthâh
ab-oth', ab-oth', ab-oth-aw'
The same as H5687; something intwined, that is, a string, wreath or foliage: - band, cord, rope, thick bough (branch), wreathen (chain).
Total KJV occurrences: 24

תֶּלֶם
telem
teh'-lem
From an unused root meaning to accumulate; a bank or terrace: - furrow, ridge.
Total KJV occurrences: 5

שָׂדַד
śâdad
saw-dad'
A primitive root; to abrade, that is, harrow a field: - break clods, harrow.
Total KJV occurrences: 3


probably the great aurochs or wild bulls which are now extinct. The exact meaning is not known.

a reply to: Nothin

What are you refering to? Creationism isnt a science and OP is merely an except of a failed creationist theory. Which many theorys around that time have failed.

a reply to: CptGreenTea

Carl Edward Baugh
Carl Edward Baugh is the Founder and Director of the Creation Evidence Museum of Texas in Glen Rose. He is the scientific research director of the world's first hyperbaric biosphere, simulating Earth's atmospheric conditions before the world-wide flood of Noah's day. He is the discoverer and excavation director of sixteen dinosaurs, including Acrocanthosaurus in Texas and Diplodocus in Colorado. ...

Linky

He studied Sciency™ stuff.
He does Sciency™ things.
He has Sciency™ names in his titles.

He's Sciency™ !



He's also full of beans, like many other " Scientists™ " :

Carl Edward Baugh (born October 21, 1936) is an American young Earth creationist. Baugh has claimed to have discovered human footprints alongside dinosaur footprints near the Paluxy River in Texas.[1][2][3] Baugh promoted creationism as the former host of the Creation in the 21st Century TV program on the Trinity Broadcasting Network.

The scientific community considers his claims pseudoscience. The creationist groups Answers in Genesis and Answers in Creation have characterized his claims as incorrect or deceptive.[4] Baugh claims to have multiple doctorates, all of which are from unaccredited schools.[5] He was also the president and a graduate of Pacific International University, an unaccredited university located in Springfield, Missouri.

Wikipedia.

a reply to: Nothin

The problem with creationsim, even with scientists who are creationists, is that they work on trying to prove their beliefs which are based off a book written by religious men ages ago.

That's why most people don't take creationism seriously. It's all focused on proving a pre-concieved notion from a book that is anything but "scientific".

a reply to: CptGreenTea

Don't disagree with you about Creationist Scientists™ .

Just saying there are also parallels in many other forms of Science™ as well.

Upon investigating something new : a scientist will first compare the new info to their own personal knowledge-base and opinions.
Then perhaps out to the general field of accepted science, just to see how much of the new phenomena fits into established phenomena.

It kind-off mirrors how an intelligent creature investigates it's environment.

But the gist is that ole Nothin likes to poke fun at science, more particularly Science™.
And especially the more arrogant they are, like Self-Appointed-Experts™, and otherwise appointed Experts™ as well.

Yesterday : this was Officially™ Proclaimed™ :

Expression of the year for 2022 : The Experts™ are Baffled™ !! LoL !!!