originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: 727Sky
We didn't blink when Saudi Arabia killed an American resident in Turkey.
Sure, he was a Saudi citizen, but he was killed for the very things we stand up for.
One of oUR very own members made a compelling case to show they were using MEDEVAC jets to get OUT their citizens before they could stand trial in the
US (though this is alleged) thread
Saudi Arabia is as bad or worse than most dictatorships we export our freedom to. And aside from a zinging one liner, no presidents in my lifetime
have extended anything less than military aid to them, including Trump.
I feel like this is precisely why Biden's visit wasn't so grand like Trumps or like Xi's will be. He talked alot about holding Saudi accountable for
Kashoggi's killing on the campaign trail and relations between his administration and Saudi haven't been as friendly as previous admins because of
this.
The fist bump was planned as a way to greet without the President looking bad for shaking his hand, this is a fact, so both sides know that the
Kashoggi issue is.. an issue, which forces them to have some distance and lack of friendliness. Whether this is genuine or just a show to appease
people? Probably the latter, but it is a thing.
This hadn't happened yet when Trump visited, and if Xi had been outspoken about it, his visit wouldn't be happening or it would also be toned down.
Of course everyone is going to reply with how much Biden and his admin suck, how he's soft on the issue, and every doubt imaginable, to this I say I
understand. Extremely unpopular here and many other places, not popular with me either.
However, I tend to shoot straight and I'm not sympathetic to leanings toward one side or another. I've been alive too long, watching this crap play
out on every administration every four years since Bush vs Gore in 2000. Remember, Bush was the first antichrist, then Obama was the second. Trump was
the third, and none of them started World War III or armageddon. Biden doesn't get the distinction because he's old and slow, no ego on display.
The other 3? These are guys we can get behind, men with life in them, fiery speakers who rally passions and emotions. Leaders, Biden is not a leader.
Biden was a compromise between a bunch of disagreeing factions as the only acceptable lame duck who doesn't really embody any of the
factions.
edit on CDT10Sun, 14 Aug 2022 10:36:45 -050000000008b2022 by Thrumbo because: (no reason given)