The Fog of War: The Russian Firehose Propaganda Model

Putin and Russian TV have often sprinkled chunkes of truth regarding american wars and conflicts that american media often hides. I think some people see that and mistake Russia and Putin as truth tellers, fighting against the NWO lies.

In reality, Russia is just as bad (and worse in some cases) with their own propaganda. Just because Russia is willing to be honest about the American empire, doesn't mean they will be at all truthful about their corruptions, exploitations, and silencing of journalists who dare to question the status quo im Russia.

Great OP and its interesting to see Russia's increase in propaganda narratives. Its sad that many people buy into it.

a reply to: turretless




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Bellincat MH 17

Six Years of MH17-lies: The Kremlin is Losing its Own Game

Occupy the Information Space!


The GRU's MH17 Disinformation Operations Part 1: The Bonanza Media Project

a reply to: CptGreenTea

Yep, they do sprinkled chunkes of truth, to make storys more plausible.


What`s funny is they like to draw picture where this Russian version of World order would be better alternative in every way to Westerns order, yet they been messing ,attacking other countrys, threaten with nuclear war etc...They are not any better but keep up this narrative that their order would be better. And some people buy it , also because ,many oppose strongly what the West has done, Iraq , Libya etc ....so it look like grass is greener on the other side...but is not in reality. The name " war " can mean they put person to prison in Russia . It`s psyop to influense minds .

This is example how they spread the lies inside Russia, for Russian people, it`s also propaganda, for domestic audience.

Russian Ministry of Defense claims it destroyed two of Ukraine's HIMARS rocket artillery systems, and posts video to prove it. Apparently, the two 16.2 ton, 7 m long, 3.2. m high, 2.4 m wide HIMARS vehicles were hidden in a room on the second floor of a building in Kharkiv.


Pro-Russian channels are spreading these images claiming that a HIMARS launcher was destroyed- in reality, it's a Ukrainian M1152 HMMWV Ambulance vehicle.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: turretless

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Links to the bellingcat site are not loading for me.

I did not see multiple narratives in the proposed materials.

In my understanding, different narratives should exclude the simultaneous existence of each other.

And the description of the different sides of the phenomenon are not different narratives.

For example, the statements "Russian evidence is ignored" and "Ukrainian air defense shot down the MH 17" do not contradict each other.

In addition, I notice statements here that have never been voiced by Russian officials.

For example, "The real plan was to kill Putin", "The Malaysian Boeing was destroyed by the Israeli missile Python".

originally posted by: Kenzo


This is example how they spread the lies inside Russia, for Russian people, it`s also propaganda, for domestic audience.

Russian Ministry of Defense claims it destroyed two of Ukraine's HIMARS rocket artillery systems, and posts video to prove it. Apparently, the two 16.2 ton, 7 m long, 3.2. m high, 2.4 m wide HIMARS vehicles were hidden in a room on the second floor of a building in Kharkiv.

I have no doubt that "16.2 ton, 7 m long, 3.2. m high, 2.4 m wide" HIMARS can fit in the plant workshop.

High-precision strike has destroyed 2 US rocket launchers of HIMARS multiple-launch rocket system on the territory of the Ukrainian Energy Machines plant in Kharkov.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This Doctor Christopher Paul?????? Was he talking about a firehose propaganda of Russia. Ooppps, sorry, I thought he was talking about the firehose propaganda that the DEMs have been perpetrating since Trump came to power in 2016 and still going on to this day with the Jan the 6th event.

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Well i did not even watch it all, but at least he mentioned Russia, could be also speaking US domestic issues , i dont know enough about the Russian operations with democrat or republicans to say much anything, but gut feeling is russia has been trying to influence also in US ....there has been so much news storyes with the Russian interfence to US elections that i had no time to read them.

The firehose thing would be maybe worth to dig more regarding US elections etc, if there would be signs about it. No doubt Russia is trying to influence in every continent IMO .