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posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 12:39 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how they managed it, maybe it was just all the relentless propaganda, or maybe our vote really doesn't matter anymore, but in any case, far-left politicians are gaining power all around the world. Look at the recent elections in Canada, France, Australia, New Zealand, and the USA. Canada chose to re-elect the dictator Trudeau despite his abhorrent attacks against truckers and other protesters.

New Zealand chose to re-elect the far-left Labor Party despite the absurdly harsh lock-downs they enforced during the "pandemic". Jacinda Ardern and Justin Trudeau, the PM's of New Zealand and Canada, both launched an all out attack on unvaccinated people and did all they could to isolate them from normal society. And France chose to re-elect the globalist Macron despite his heavy handed police response to protesting.

Australia also chose to put the Labor Party into power despite the Labor controlled states having some of the most strict lock-down rules in the world. The United States didn't re-elect a person who had already proven to be a power hungry dictator, but they did elect a power hungry dictator none the less, instead of re-electing the guy who promised to respect their individual freedoms and medical autonomy.

That's the state of the world we live in right now, and Biden along with all these other leftist leaders, will be in power for about another 3 years. We're only barely into this globalist nightmare and the world is already crumbling, so what will the world look like in 3 years? These people constantly promise us that if they get elected they will make the world a better and fairer place, with more equality and less poverty.

So now they have all the power, we should expect the world to be in a better state 3 years from now. If 3 years from now, we're living with more poverty, more scarcity, more inflation, then people might finally understand the reasons why their standard of living is constantly decreasing. Or maybe they'll just re-elect the same people because they have nice hair and virtue signal constantly.

This is going to be my final rant and my final warning on this topic until 3 years from now, I'm tired of pointing out obvious facts about reality while the world ignores it. They say you reap what you sow... and I no longer pity the fool. My empathy for the fools who cheer on the coming globalist dystopia is non-existent. Those who use fear and lies to manipulate others deserve what ever karma they get.
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posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 12:47 PM
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I'm 100% with you on this. It also gets very tiresome trying to 'wake up' people .
And the "more equality and less poverty " line means off course for the 99% of us.
This means we will all be equally poor , miserable and hopeless: you will own nothing and be happy.

While they enjoy the biggest wealth the world has ever known. It's beyond infuriating at this point.
Maybe we need to sink further for more of the masses to wake up and revolt.
I do think we have not yet reached that 'tipping point'.
I try to remain cautiously optimistic



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Either there has been a massive shift in trust and support of nanny-state govt

Or

Voting has not been entirely legitimate.

Im wondering how many Canadians are looking to relocate south while US' exodus continues.

Interesting times.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You know, your list of countries that went far left brought to mind comments seen elsewhere to the effect that the elections in France were rigged. I have noted that where ever the far left wins, forever after that they stay in power. But of course, as well, they control the mechanisms of voting. That being said, it none the less appears the Leftist are losing ground in Cali. Or will they?



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder




My empathy for the fools who cheer on the coming globalist dystopia is non-existent. 


Their pride exceeds their integrity.

They will never admit that they were wrong.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 01:19 PM
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I doubt any of these were voted in by the majority.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Hmm. All the regular people i know only want about five things,

To hate conspiracy theorists.
To wear masks.
To be vaccinated.
To be limited/imprisoned in every way possible.
To kill russians.

I wish i was joking but i am not.


We deserve everything we get.

I am on this planet only to observe and report. And i am not lying, the report is going to be pretty bad, like a hundred thousand more years of hell on earth bad.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 03:03 PM
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The majority of wealth is held in the hands of two multi-national corporations; Blackrock and Vanguard. They are the major stockholders of everything, from consumer goods to the entire healthcare industry, thech industry, the world supply chain, MSM- everything, including world governments.

Minor shareholders are millionaires, like the Pelosi's, Bidens, et al.

the WEF, Davos and Bilderberg meetings are funded at the hands of these two corporations. The money to make things happen is under the control of liberal majority; the wealth owned by conservatives pales in comparison.

As more people wake up and learn what the planned agenda is for the future, the more they are threatened by not meeting the 'great reset' goal on time. Their plan might actually get totally derailed if enough people wake up in time, and the few in politics that aren't owned by liberal wealth might be able to help us a avert false utopia planned for us all.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: nugget1


The majority of wealth is held in the hands of two multi-national corporations; Blackrock and Vanguard. They are the major stockholders of everything, from consumer goods to the entire healthcare industry, thech industry, the world supply chain, MSM- everything, including world governments.


If we hold this perception to be true, which I do, it appears that the vast majority of wealth in this country is controlled by institutions based entirely within the capitalist system of economics. These two corporations along with all the lesser wealthy corporations control, for the most part, the governments. I agree here as well.

Yet what do we find to be the perceptions of large swaths of people. Simple, that it is the leftists that are controlling everything. It's oxymoronish. The traditional line between leftists and rightists comes down to the economic system. Those who oppose capitalism on the left and those who defend it on the right.

And those minor millionaires? The ones like Pelosi and Biden and any of the others that have managed to make themselves a small fortune by playing this economic system well enough to be modestly rich? They too are supporters of the capitalist system not far left communists or socialists.

And if what you say here


The money to make things happen is under the control of liberal majority; the wealth owned by conservatives pales in comparison.


it stands to reason that those ''liberal'' investors played the market better than ''conservatives''. Maybe it's that new markets emerge and liberals are more willing to invest in them while ''conservative'' investors are not. I don't know, but that makes sense to me.

And from my perspective, any Utopia that might have been planned by liberalism is well gone by now leaving only the vestiges of a dream lost to the false hope that it could be achieved within the capitalist system.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire
I agree it's a money's game, and liberal corporations are winning by billions.

Thanks for your response, TMcG! You brought up some good points.

Important aspects of a capitalist system are private property, private control of the factors of production, accumulation of capital, and competition. If we look at companies nowadays, most are liberally owned- like MSM. They operate under capitalism, with one main difference; competition has become monopoly. It seems the majority of corporations are now liberally owned and dominate the market.

Conservative holdings are small change in comparison, but with people like Elon Musk possibly waking up, the tide may turn.

Non of us will likely ever be able to join the millionaires club, and that leaves us at the mercy of those who are members. Those people appear to have to mindset of an entitled, self-centered lot, or some- like Gates- seem to have a God complex, and think they know best how the word should be run, using their vast wealth to buy the results they desire.

I don't think most politicians are inherently bad people when they enter the game, but power and money seems to cloud their vision leaving them vulnerable to becoming corrupted.
If you're at the top of the food chain when current society collapses- as all societies eventually do- you're assured a much better chance of survival. Sad for those on the bottom, but oh well; that's life.

It the end, he who has the most money wins.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: nugget1

I agree Nug. I think my main point here is that there is so much angst directed towards what are called ''far leftists'' and socialist and communists, when as described in your comments and apparently recognized by at least the two of us it is not either socialism or communism that has control of things but rather the child of the capitalist system, corporations.

State owned production could not match up to privately owned production and that is as it is, but this should not let privately owned production off the hook for the problems we face today.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Vanguard /blackrock , who control the MSM , very much are left-wing biased.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: XipeTotex
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Hmm. All the regular people i know only want about five things,

To hate conspiracy theorists.
To wear masks.
To be vaccinated.
To be limited/imprisoned in every way possible.
To kill russians.

I wish i was joking but i am not.


We deserve everything we get.

I am on this planet only to observe and report. And i am not lying, the report is going to be pretty bad, like a hundred thousand more years of hell on earth bad.


an interesting pattern that can be seen worldwide: total self-overestimation and self-centeredness goes hand in hand with:

corona is a lie
abortion is murder
the left is the biggest danger for the world
everything was better in the past
there is no man-made climate change
the russians have their reasons
putin is a real man
transgender/gay = pedophile
democrats = devil
we need more weapons

did i forget something?

sometimes a little self-reflection doesn't hurt. maybe you're just totally wrong. you should consider that possibility, because you're not a god, just a human being.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: loufo

An interesting pattern is also seen in gross overstatements like yours.


corona is a lie
No, corona is real. But many many lies have been told about it to leverage society.


abortion is murder

Well at least some of it is...


the left is the biggest danger for the world

Truth.


everything was better in the past

I don't recall anyone saying "everything", but most things probably were, depending on what past you are referring to.


there is no man-made climate change

Again, not so extreme. There is some man-made change, but it isn't responsible for everything.


the russians have their reasons

I don't condone the violence, but the Russians are not alone in guilt. Ukraine and US had a role in this too.


putin is a real man

compared to biden, yes he is.


transgender/gay = pedophile

If trans/gay insists on discussing sex with 5 year olds, yes, pedophiles.


democrats = devil

Truth.


we need more weapons

No, we need to protect the right to have them.



did i forget something?

Yes. Anything even remotely resembling common sense or honesty.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: ancientlight
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Vanguard /blackrock , who control the MSM , very much are left-wing biased.


It's not so much that they are left-wing biased, it's more to do with the fact that the majority of the left are extremely gullible and gobble up MSM narratives like turkeys pecking grain.

The globalist "elites" use left-wing gullibility as a yard stick to measure what they can get away with before risking a revolt.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: nugget1

I think my main point here is that there is so much angst directed towards what are called ''far leftists'' and socialist and communists, when as described in your comments and apparently recognized by at least the two of us it is not either socialism or communism that has control of things but rather the child of the capitalist system, corporations.

Wow, what an original perspective. I would argue that this is one of the greatest lies told by the left in recent times. I see this lie in so many modern films and novels written by leftists and marxists. They tell us capitalism is the root of all our problems, and the only solution is to embrace excessive amounts of socialism.

The way I see it, the most successful economies on Earth have embraced capitalism, and some of the most unsuccessful have rejected free-market philosophies in preference for socialism or communism. It's easy to blame capitalism for everything because it does have problems, and the US health system is particularly broken.

There are plenty of capitalist nations which have great health care systems, and they are mostly funded by tax payers. I think most people can agree that health care is one thing our taxes should fund because we all get sick. As I've said a million times before, some socialist policies can work very well when properly balanced with capitalism.

We have many social services that our taxes fund, and they benefit society immensely. The real problem is when we allow excessive socialist policies to undermine the foundations of capitalism. We cannot ignore free-market philosophies and assume socialism will create a utopia despite its countless failures throughout history.

Printing endless amounts of money will not solve inequality, it will only create massive inflation and make us all poorer in the long run, which is exactly what has happened throughout this pandemic due to astronomical levels of pandemic relief spending. Combine that with increased taxes to fund the nanny state and we are sucked dry.

In 3 years we will see the outcome of this leftist push to dismantle capitalism, but will their economic policies work in practice? Economics is a very complex thing and I've spent a long time studying what makes a prosperous society. I've written several threads over the years which explain many of these concepts in fairly simple terms.

The intrinsic necessity of capitalism

Why Free Market Capitalism Creates Prosperity

The Supremacy of Westernized Asian Nations

Why Increased Socialism Leads to Increased Prices

Why Excessive Socialism Doesn't Work

Flawed Logic of The Venus Project

Debunking Post Capitalism
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posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: ancientlight

They are capitalist based, not socialist based. Simple. Do they espouse neo-liberal policies? Yes if it suits their bottom line. The left wing you are talking about is the left wing of the capitalist system and not the left wing of the economic spectrum.



posted on Jun, 8 2022 @ 07:07 PM
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The way I see it, the most successful economies on Earth have embraced capitalism, and some of the most unsuccessful have rejected free-market philosophies in preference for socialism or communism. It's easy to blame capitalism for everything because it does have problems,


Yes, the societies that embrace capitalism have demonstrated a remarkable success over the last few centuries. I agree completely. As well the attempts at establishing a socialist or communist society in this modern world have as you say failed.

And yes, capitalism does have problems. And it is those problems that need to be addressed and this cannot be done by putting all the blame on socialists or communists, That is a red herring.

But with your index of threads i know that there is nothing I could add to your wealth of knowledge on this issue because you have heard all the arguments by now and have dismissed them , and that's fair enough as those other types of economic endeavor have shown us that attempts to work them fail in comparison.



posted on Jun, 9 2022 @ 01:11 PM
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Being at the top worked out wonderfully for the tsar and his family.

French royalty won out big time as well.

It seems the French and Russian citizens smelt the cheese, when will the yanks do the same?

a reply to: nugget1



posted on Jun, 9 2022 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: Dalamax
Being at the top worked out wonderfully for the tsar and his family.

French royalty won out big time as well.

It seems the French and Russian citizens smelt the cheese, when will the yanks do the same?

a reply to: nugget1



Honestly, I'm not sure they will. We're too addicted to TV, cell phones and gadgets to do any thinking for ourselves, and rely on 30 minutes of evening news to fact check all information and let us know what is true.



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