Biden Administration Quietly Raised Amount of Ethanol Required in Gasoline from 10% to 15%

And this is after the Democrats just burned through the nation's emergency oil reserves.

These Democrats are dangerous as ....

originally posted by: Bloodworth
And this is after the Democrats just burned through the nation's emergency oil reserves.

These Democrats are dangerous as ....

And sold a bunch to China.
And shut down the pipeline projects that help us move oil around.
And shut down drilling projects.
And...

originally posted by: StoutBroux

originally posted by: lordcomac

originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: infolurker
Does anyone else still think that there is not an effort to create famine? We already burn 40% of our corn as mandatory ethanol additive to gasoline, now they are going to raise it which causes numerous problems like less food for us and livestock, less food to export, destroying engines, fuel liines and related mechanical components that are not designed for that level of ethanol usage.

Democrats insane.

Biden: You think it is bad now? Hold my beer!

Biden Administration Quietly Raised Amount of Ethanol Required in Gasoline from Ten Percent to Fifteen, Three Predictable Problems Will Surface Soon

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Last Friday the Biden administration raised the mandatory amount of biofuel, specifically ethanol, that must be blended within the U.S. gasoline supply. The previous amount of 10% was raised to 15% by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). This is likely to lead to two sets of bigger issues, less food and higher gas prices.

♦ First issue. – The Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) is a government mandate, passed in 2005 and expanded in 2007, that requires growing volumes of biofuels to be blended into U.S. transportation fuels like gasoline and diesel every year. Approximately 40 percent of corn grown in the U.S. is used for ethanol.

The EPA enforces the biofuel standard by requiring refineries to submit purchase credits (known as Renewable Identification Numbers, or RINs) to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proving the purchases. This enforcement requirement sets up a system where the RIN credits are bought and sold by small refineries who do not have the infrastructure to do the blending process. They purchase second-hand RIN credits from parties that blended or imported biofuels directly. This sets up a secondary income stream, a trading market for the larger oil companies, refineries and importers.

The RIN credit trading platform is similar to what we might expect to see if the ‘Carbon Trading’ scheme was ever put into place.

♦ Third Issue – “Ethanol is a valuable source of octane in finished gasoline, but it is chemically different than petroleum gasoline and cannot be used in concentrations above 10 percent in small engines — like outboard boat motors, motorcycles, lawnmowers, generators or chain saws — or in any cars made before 2001. Complicating matters further, most cars on the road today still aren’t warrantied to run on gasoline with more than 10 percent ethanol.

EPA Raises Amount of Ethanol That Must Be Blended With Gas

www.usnews.com...

Most gasoline sold in the U.S. contains 10% ethanol, and the fuel has become a key part of the economy in many Midwest states. The fuel consumes more than 40% of the nation's corn supply

“Today’s actions will help to reduce our reliance on oil and put the RFS program back on track after years of challenges and mismanagement," said EPA Administrator Michael Regan.

The Renewable Fuels Association, an ethanol lobbying group, criticized the retroactive reduction of biofuels targets but said the future requirements would bring certainty back to the renewable fuel standard, help lower gas prices and set a foundation for future growth.

15% Ethanol is E85 and if your not driving an E85 rated car, your about to have major issues. Not only that, but if that's the case for regular unleaded, then we are being stolen from at the pumps.

That's flat out incorrect.

Flex Fuel
E85 (or flex fuel) is a term that refers to high-level ethanol-gasoline blends containing 51% to 83% ethanol, depending on geography and season

afdc.energy.gov...

E15 is still a horrible idea and I really hope someone steps in and stops this before it's too late.

Then why does your link provide another link to FFV's? (Flex Fuel Vehicles)

Which says this:

Flexible fuel vehicles (FFVs) are designed to run on gasoline or gasoline-ethanol blends of up to 85% ethanol (E85).1 Except for a few engine and fuel system modifications, they are identical to gasoline-only models. FFVs experience no loss in performance when operating on E85, and some generate more torque and horsepower than when operating on gasoline. However, since ethanol contains less energy per volume than gasoline, FFVs typically get about 15%–27% fewer miles per gallon when fuelled with E85.2....

If non FFV's can handle Flex fuel, why the modifications? Just curious.

Non flex fuel vehicles can't handle (up to) 85% ethanol fuel (aka e85)
I'm not sure where you're getting that idea.

The part you highlighted there is.... well, also wrong. Shouldn't be a surprise from the .gov propaganda machine.
The physical design of the engines is the same, but everything from air/fuel ratios to valve and ignition timing has to run differently for ethanol fuel.
At 10% contamination, most engines will power through and still run. Before they screwed with emissions that contamination could be water, motor oil, cat piss.... but these days the fuel is far more refined and the engines have gotten a LOT more complex since the 80's.

If you got a bad batch of fuel (15+ ethanol/water) in that car, it would spit and sputter, run like crap- but it would run.
The cars that love to advertise how well they run on ethanol were from the companies that want you to buy a new turbocharged car every four years. Yes, a turbocharged engine will burn that fuel better- but it'll cost more to build and won't last as long. It'll also need a lot more motor oil over its lifespan but that's another rant for another thread.

originally posted by: texas thinker
a reply to: devilsadvocatetoday

Not one bit.
Ethanol is corrosive and the seals in a fuel system have to be made of sturdier material than those designed for gasoline. The rubbers that hold up a long time to gasoline contact can quickly become mushy and soft when in prolonged contact with ethanol. No additives will do much to protect them

While disappointing to hear, I appreciate the info so I can plan accordingly.

www.epa.gov...

It seems the EPA got approval to do this in June 2011.

Ethanol Waivers (E15 and E10)

In June 2011, EPA approved blends of 15 volume percent ethanol in gasoline for use in model year 2001 and newer passenger cars, light-trucks and medium-duty vehicles.

So does that mean it's been around that long or did the President push to put it into production?

a reply to: infolurker

Since ethanol is often made from domestically produced crops, isn't this a win for struggling farmers, and for people who want to decrease dependency on foreign oil?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: infolurker

Since ethanol is often made from domestically produced crops, isn't this a win for struggling farmers, and for people who want to decrease dependency on foreign oil?

No, it enriches the big Ag giant’s, Monsanto aka Bayer and syngenta. Poisons the ground, and robs taxpayers to subsidize this waste of resource, and depletes the aquifers all at the same time.

This is your conscience speaking:

I'm seeing a lot of outrage here, but I guess not enough to actually do anything but complain about how the government is putting a noose around your neck. Might as well step off the stool if you're going to just sit there and let them kill you. George Washington is spinning in his grave with the rest of the founding fathers, at how you let yourself be emasculated.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: infolurker

Since ethanol is often made from domestically produced crops, isn't this a win for struggling farmers, and for people who want to decrease dependency on foreign oil?

No and No

1st, 15% Ethanol will destroy small engines and destroys gaskets and rubber components.

2nd. The US will be not feeding the 3rd world which will suffer due to the Ukraine war.


www.newscientist.com...

In the US, a third of the maize grown is converted into ethanol and blended into petrol. Around 90 million tonnes is used for ethanol, nearly double the 50 million tonnes exported by Ukraine and Russia, says Qaim.

In the European Union, 12 million tonnes of grain, including wheat and maize, is turned into ethanol, Qaim says, around 7 per cent of the bloc’s production.

So, basic math, if we are already converting 90 million tons to dump into gasoline and we are going up from 10 to 15%, I assume we are going to burn up another 45 million tons for a total of 135 million tons.

And the Dems will say "we don't understand why there is famine and no cow feed".

a reply to: infolurker

That's going to damage cars and shorten their lifespans engine wise. Not to mention being costly and less efficient. Part of the push to get people to buy electric vehicles which are also incredibly damaging to the environment.

6.11.2022

Gasoline just hit a nationwide average of $5.00 @ gallon.

Insane: gettr.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
6.11.2022

Gasoline just hit a nationwide average of $5.00 @ gallon.

Insane: gettr.com...

A lot of higher end cars and sports cars require 91 octane, that gas is usually almost a dollar more over 87/89 octane. Going to be a lot of ruined engines or parked cars soon.