Why are people confused about the nature of time?

If it is polite to excuse oneself to go to the bathroom; and babies don't?

There is likely a message they are snail mailing of; It isn't rude to go to without asking but forget by the time they can tell yah.

Here's the math or way of poo

to go poo
two go to poo
poo can't help but go too

P.S. Relativity is the name Einstein gave to "time" playing doctor with physics while others where trying to master it?

You have to admit going poo is a special relativity... and when you need to really go; It's absolute.

P.S.S. plagiarism of this is OK

Then there's the idea of the Block Universe.

In the block universe, the entirety of the universe, including everything that has ever happened from the beginning to the end of that universe, is a static block. The block universe contains everything and "everywhen" -- but as a whole it sits there unchanging.

Time is perceived by moving through that block.

a reply to: stonerwilliam

I want to say drugs or aliens.

Me and a friend crossed a farmer's field when we were around 8 and it took 4 hours, parents were fuming at the time but we had little legs and the wheat was head height. Good times.

Different terrains can add time to a journey, I imagine you'd notice it taking forever if you weren't 8 and hunting raptors though... Did the search party search the field?

Country roads? Seems to be a phenomena of people disappearing and appearing on them, most think they're ghosts... Maybe it's people taking the wrong turn interdimensionally?

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People
Then there's the idea of the Block Universe.

In the block universe, the entirety of the universe, including everything that has ever happened from the beginning to the end of that universe, is a static block. The block universe contains everything and "everywhen" -- but as a whole it sits there unchanging.

Time is perceived by moving through that block.

Almost fully agree with the concept of the Block Universe. The question is what are we doing if everything is pre-determined?
According to this paper (excerpt):
arxiv.org...
"For sentient beings, as we are, all information is carried by photons, this fact explains why we can only act in our
present. We are a part of a universe that “travels” in space towards the future along the τ coordinate, our activity in
the present “processes” the incoming future and produces the past along the τ coordinate."
Therefore the purpose of a spacetime is to edit a prerecorded sequence of events produced by other parallel realities.
NOW you know the meaning of existence and life.

The concept is further developed here:
www.chronos.msu.ru...

Simple discussion here, with Nobel prize winner citation:
www.chronos.msu.ru...

This is simply an alternative interpretation of Special Relativity, same equations.

a reply to: neoholographic

Time is Eternal. What's confusing?

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

perhaps that's just falling asleep and or dying while defragmenting a FAT32 hard drive in old windows

a reply to: ancientlight

The Time you speak of Now...is already the Past...and we'll refer to it as 'Being Said"...Tomorrow...about its "Yesterday"...which was/is today!.

Boggles the mind my friend! Time has no beginning or end. Time as Hope...Springs Eternal.

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: stonerwilliam

I want to say drugs or aliens.

Me and a friend crossed a farmer's field when we were around 8 and it took 4 hours, parents were fuming at the time but we had little legs and the wheat was head height. Good times.

Different terrains can add time to a journey, I imagine you'd notice it taking forever if you weren't 8 and hunting raptors though... Did the search party search the field?

Country roads? Seems to be a phenomena of people disappearing and appearing on them, most think they're ghosts... Maybe it's people taking the wrong turn interdimensionally?

I would love to file it away in my memory bank as drink or drugs or aliens but they had no bearing on these events and the grass in what I call the horses field was always like a billiard table , I woke up late that morning in the yearly 70s run like a nutter to get to my Saturday job crossed into the horses field and was 50 foot from one fence to the other in a wide open space 0 cover of any type to hide in suddenly my grandmother is there shouting me as I bent down to go through into the other corn field to get to the farm and my grandmother is there shouting me ,

I had run some 200 meters from my house up a little hill past some 25 to 30 houses in a row and when I turned round to answer her it went from morning to hot afternoon and the sun was straight ahead of me as I left the house now it was 45 degrees to my right .

I have racked my brains all my life to answer this question and come up blank and why did a search party not find me ?.

The other 2 events happened not that many years ago and close to each other and if you drew a line from the first place I mentioned it is passing through the area 2.5 miles away the other 2 happened in on a fairly busy road with lots of people passing .

I have learned to stop thinking about them as I drives me nuts trying to figure them out when I know their is no scientific way to figure these events out , I just put them down to nature teaching me a lesson and showing me life is more complex than I know

That would be tough habit to break since we are on a planet that orbits the sun 365 earth days, with 52, 7 day weeks, with 24 hour days, that last 60 mins, with each minute being 60 seconds, and then milli, nano an micro seconds, but we all too slow for that.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

The more a trope arises seen as a mirror the less likely one will want or desire to engage with it; Unfortunately people seeing the mirror or trope want to dissuade others from their lesson in what that trope is trying to teach them also a trope... the same person through countless lifetimes will keep arising like a meme.gif making the same path until there is a personal breakthrough... until then there is no "hope" for them.

It is said the "higher self" powers that world and won't budge until the "lower self" learns the lesson... no matter how many woodcutters no matter how many cry wolf... those same seeds will be planted until they themselves as one uproot it. Not being able to recognise that as a "not self" one gets stuck at the root of the tree either once having the same issue or apt to fall again into the trope oneself.

In such a manner generalizations arise, maxims arise and idioms are made of it.

Not falling for it, not curious about it? The divine "comedy" hiding the face of tragedy... the tragedy of course? You too will become the pauper the cripple the racist etc. in laughing at the trope when like a magician it trades hands. Awestruck at ones foolishness one can't tear themselves away and so it is the same with someone embraces their problems until those problems are resolved and not a moment sooner than that are they then "free".

Seeing the trope is important going against the trope is just as difficult as living the trope... the strange thing is; when someone says so and so was a loving such and such on their death when by majority of those experienced with so and so as such and such would likely disagree... however saying such and such is usually out of fear that so and so of such and such a manner will somehow come back to haunt them or possess them until they are no better or equal in their revenge... being seen as equally guilty and yet thinking themself exonerated then it builds an inverted world or society where the up is down the right is left or a world of opposites; with the illusion that some balance was struck... it isn't really paradise lost as that was never found until the dead are found innocent of crimes they've committed on the living.

While alive so and so and such and such put people through hell; and isn't it a just cause that once dead those doors are actually flung open so they can enter it; setting others free from that evil?

The trope is no different than an "expatriate" trying to find home cooking even though the cooking of there is just as good if not in some cases better? Then there arises a bunch of "expatriates" all grouped together but it's no longer about the food it's then talks about what they left... "Dragging the corpse"~Koan. It is the same in habits deemed both good and bad... like a magnet those habits will draw like to like seeing that as a reality is when the trope vanishes and it cannot be unseen unlearned and one can't fall into it unless willingly... or choosing ignorance instead of admitting there are more lessons to be learned from whatever it is as an individual keep falling for or into.

Like a shark screaming "Shark!" such people are heedless... not helpless.

a reply to: stonerwilliam

Genuinely mystifying, missing time is a weird one especially when you're in motion.

I've had things disappear on me before, to the point I pulled up floor boards. The problem is you can't just forget aberrant experiences like that. Thanks for sharing!

a reply to: RAY1990

Intention is the culprit in missing "time"...like the intention to go donate some items you don't need or want after spring cleaning... even the spring cleaning if you think it a thousand times before you do it? It's even worse than just jumping up and getting it done... that's "time" with good intention. Bad intention is lighting fast like the urge to pop someone upside the head for whatever.

So if one can see that intention is what time is really wrapped around while the mind hems and haws whether on the positive or negative in its accumulation then it will always seem or appear out of balance at least mentally so... since intention sends out energy over and over the longer one waits or hems and haws the more goes "missing".

What is interesting is when one becomes pretty well adapted to meditation of just sitting there intentionless as sitting is and was the only intention? Is there you arrive walked right through the wall as an echo of all those previous sent out intentions... over time of more practice those "not selves" but clearly a "self" go away... and then intention has finally caught up to the act of the present moment or just sitting.

Another strange thing is one can walk in a circle like 10 feet in diameter several times round then stop suddenly the premise is the mind does not generate thoughts anymore before doing this; however it will appear after having walked that diameter several time when one stops as if the world spins that many times then slams back into you while just standing there having walked several times around. Sufism does sort of the same thing in the whirling dervish... such a thing takes grace and co-ordination whereas the ten foot diameter does not take so much... but one may fall down if not careful so anyone getting a wild hair? Please be careful.

Some mind/mood altering substances can make such an appearance as missing time or it being dragged out... like those red eyed friends that used to want rides to the convenience store saying it felt like they were standing at the register for an hour instead of thirty to forty seconds.

a reply to: Crowfoot

Lots to think about there!

A lot of it rings true from memory of times when I've been somewhat one-tracked minded or to a lesser extent a boring person...

I'm a relatively patient and tolerant person with an uncanny ability to walk away though, time has been balanced for a while for me. That said I've "seemingly" practiced meditation a few times and I tend to aim for the nothingness which is illusory at best.

It's hard to concentrate on nothing. Whenever I've achieved that I seem to remember somewhat outer body experiences. Usually before sleep so it could have just been a dreamlike state. Out of all the things I could imagine or look at it was usually the contours and curves of my blanket and a glass chess board.

Probably just imagination although the peace was indescribable and the detail unbelievable.

Say perhaps there are worlds that run parallel to ours but run backwards as we run forwards, for them it’s normal and for us it’s normal we just see each other the other way round.

Take for example the average corny porn movie plot, in ‘their’ world the plumber comes in to the house, cleans up the lady with his dick hoovering all mess off her, helps her get dressed and then breaks the boiler on the way out….

An excellent read on these sort of thoughts is a short book by Martin Amis - Times Arrow, well worth the read if you get the chance.

MR

a reply to: beyondknowledge

"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." Douglas Adams.

"Time Is What Keeps Everything From Happening At Once." Some smartass.

a reply to: RAY1990

Mastering that is a good thing the formless states in the midst of form they are two separate realms joined into one. The emptiness is the true nature of "mind" the form well that's just as empty until both come together as name and form... walking around in form not empty then one is in the dream or duality of both the third realm or dimension.

The light focused on two things the blanket "security" from the glass chess board... the board and pieces and the game itself both the glass and game are lose lose situation if it were to fall and break back to the security of the blanket the attitude of the game is the duality or fight of form and formless when it is on a third dimension a "game" playing it means winning or security and losing means security of the blanket.

Peace and piece there is and isn't danger in the one piece of glass micro cosim and macro cosim depends of the size as does "security" blankets.

compare and contrast it to the common dream of: Being caught naked in the hallway between classes dream... which is at the other extreme.

OBE willfully is not really any different than recalling past memories as both of them go back to a corpse... the OBE has to go back to the corpse or form and memory is going back to an immaterial corpse while in form.

The volition is the same in both cases a retrieval and revival being one and the same... in both cases it is and is not a self; The dreamer and the dreamed. If the glass took everyone's skin off everyone would look about the same... no race so then it's just the eyes in which light penetrates and collects. The "not self" being the collective conscious that all call a table a table even though there really is no "table" existing as that describes a function of shape formed over time into a tool of use... when using a table; Who thinks about the table? It's just there being used... thinking about the table is distraction from the task or as you said about meditation and being not focused.

There really isn't any goal in meditation people can give you one of course; But if it is sitting then that's all that should remain as focus; any pain is not sitting, any noises is not sitting; reality says yes of course that's hearing... and that's reality. Staying rooted in that current moment knowing sitting from sitting and that sitting has moved to hearing is a direct pointing meaning move it back to sitting and that's all. Achieving reality is all meditation ever leads too when done correctly and nothing more.

a reply to: Marlborough Red

Say perhaps there are worlds that run parallel to ours but run backwards as we run forwards, for them it’s normal and for us it’s normal we just see each other the other way round.

When it comes to time around the sun? That's that's a circle or cyclic the body tries to keep track of it with the circadian rhythm it sounds like a insect buzzing outside and inside the body... if you don't hear it then it's likely out of balance "the body" with the circadian rhythm.

That "time" a circle. The time you're speaking of is shaped like a mobius strip... it's still a circle but one end is twisted before being attached to form the circle...

The parallel "universe" it's right at the tip of your nose but not seeing yourself being nose to nose with yourself then it is nothing but walking around yourself to get to where you are going the irony it is like a boomerang ending up or trying to be where you have already been just means desire or attachment prevented it, going out and about looking for it? "Too many steps were taken"~Ox herding.

Just sitting in one place for 24 hours? A lot of "ghosts" will show up... all those volitionally intentional "selves" to do anything other than just sitting there... both peaceful and wrathful experiences will occur. However; it is just all of those houses one has previously built or constructed while out Ox herding coming back to one point. All that anger and resentment at traffic at the neighbor mowing or leaf blowing all the rejection at the ATM, at the office, at the bar etc. then all the peaceful... if it's more negative in experience then try putting out more positive into the world. It isn't easy for many people to just sit for 24 hours but it is recommended at least once in a lifetime if by no one else? Me... however; I have no idea what all of you would "need" to be comfortable sitting for 24 hours doing nothing else but sitting.... after an hour or so most likely that "need" would be anything but sitting.