Azov were Executing People as they Fled

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

That shows you didn't even watch the video you are arguing about. The video wasn't from Lancaster.

Deny ignorance

I am done with you.

My feelz are now hurt.

How many times have I told you that I don't watch your propaganda videos?

50?

a reply to: Grimpachi
After the #ing he gave poliski I doubt he's going to worry much. She had a bigger smile then killer clowns from outer space in one of the pics cbs showed. Sadly been trying to find it without luck lol.

Don't think I ever seen her with half her face like that.

a reply to: Grimpachi

oh your rich and hypocritical to be on one hand talking about how ukraine is "violating international laws and rule of war"

then on the other hand JUSTIFYING AND DEFENDING russia INVADING A SOVERN NATION under the most laughable reason of "there are nazi in a military unit"..
with the even more laughable "the government is nazi"...

ok oh wise on international law

show me LINE AND VERSE EXACTLY WHERE russia had the right to invade ukraine

scrounger

originally posted by: scrounger
a reply to: Grimpachi

oh your rich and hypocritical to be on one hand talking about how ukraine is "violating international laws and rule of war"

then on the other hand JUSTIFYING AND DEFENDING russia INVADING A SOVERN NATION under the most laughable reason of "there are nazi in a military unit"..
with the even more laughable "the government is nazi"...

ok oh wise on international law

show me LINE AND VERSE EXACTLY WHERE russia had the right to invade ukraine

scrounger

Or what those 200+ hospitals ever dod to russia?

a reply to: scrounger

Well technically the genocide agreement (Which Russia, actually signed) gives Russia the right to invade. But only because NATO refused to investigate or hold court hearings and rejected all evidence presented.

Ya know kinda like how the 22,000 pfizer pages of issues with the vaccine was purposely ignored and the claim was "it's safe with no known side effects" for almost a year before admitting any actual side effects.. Aka ignored evidence to push an agenda.


Corruption gives the right to act.

genocide agreement rights and responsibility here

States' obligations under the Genocide Convention
Obligation not to commit genocide (Article I as interpreted by the ICJ)
Obligation to prevent genocide (Article I) which, according to the ICJ, has an extraterritorial scope;
Obligation to punish genocide (Article I);
Obligation to enact the necessary legislation to give effect to the provisions of the Convention (Article V);
Obligation to ensure that effective penalties are provided for persons found guilty of criminal conduct according to the Convention (Article V);
Obligation to try persons charged with genocide in a competent tribunal of the State in the territory of which the act was committed, or by an international penal tribunal with accepted jurisdiction (Article VI);
Obligation to grant extradition when genocide charges are involved, in accordance with laws and treaties in force (Article VII), particularly related to protection granted by international human rights law prohibiting refoulment where there is a real risk of flagrant human rights violations in the receiving State.
International Day
Every year on 9 December, the United Nations marks the adoption of the Genocide Convention, which is also the International Day of Commemoration and Dignity of the Victims of the Crime of Genocide and of the Prevention of this Crime.

One thing they won't tell you is that Russia actually went through ALL the steps listed above, and was ignored.

a reply to: scrounger

Are you trying to justify firing on fleeing civilians?

Can at least one of you obvious Russian trolls tell me how you'd handle living in Russia and having a beautiful, intelligent child who happened to be born gay?? None of you will answer me in any of your threads... Do you only get paid for certain posts that dont concern having a homosexual offspring or sibling in Russia?

Uh

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


It was russians shooting at busses full of civilians, they've been doing it since the first day of the war, including in humanitarian corridors.

Including trains and train stations full of civilians.

And also the hospitals the wounded civilians would have been taken to.



Keep repeating putin's propaganda though perhaps somebody will believe it someday.

Not your nazi weapons lab propaganda though, that's way too absurd.

Everyone knows it was it was Ukraine shooting at the buses its been going on for 8 years. How is Joe btw?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: scrounger

Are you trying to justify firing on fleeing civilians?

There is no excuse for russians on civilians as they have been doing, both when hiding and when fleeing.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

It's Ukraine firing on Ukraine civilians.. not Russia on Ukraine.

a reply to: homerJ

You should make a thread instead of trying to derail others.

a reply to: Grimpachi You should just answer me... I'ver seen you go to great lengths to answer far more obtuse posts

a reply to: homerJ

Lol, I have listed my opinions plenty on gay and lbgt. I will refer to the utopian experiment - which is 100% science based opinion. In short it's not their fault, but it is a generic switch that gets flipped based on over population.


It is probably what destroyed the Aztec nation. Something that "remains a mystery". Aka nature's way to control humans and their growth rate.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You only mention Russians. Does that mean you approve of Ukrainians gunning down women and children who also happen to be Ukrainian but they typically identify with Russian heritage?

You are excusing it correct?

a reply to: homerJ

Because they are at least partly on topic or the conversation started on the topic and wandered. You are completely off-topic from the start.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
Uh

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


It was russians shooting at busses full of civilians, they've been doing it since the first day of the war, including in humanitarian corridors.

Including trains and train stations full of civilians.

And also the hospitals the wounded civilians would have been taken to.



Keep repeating putin's propaganda though perhaps somebody will believe it someday.

Not your nazi weapons lab propaganda though, that's way too absurd.

Everyone knows it was it was Ukraine shooting at the buses its been going on for 8 years. How is Joe btw?

Sure.

And russia didn't both fire on and kidnap an entire Red Cross team while trying to evacuate civilians from Marioupol.

Or repeatedly bomb humanitarian corridors negotiated with the U.N.

Or bomb a train station full of civilians IN a humanitarian corridor.

Or bomb yet another train station full of civilians IN a humanitarian corridor.

Or intentionally, and sometimes repeatedly, bomb over 200 hospitals.

Or make up absurd fake propaganda about fictional weapons labs to 'justify' invading Ukraine to steal land again.



Have you heard anything new about the 3 star general?

Or the Israeli nukes in Kherson?

Or the dirty bomb factory under Cherynobol?

Or the poisoning of the russian envoy?

Or the AN 225 not having been attacked by russia while preparing to flee?




So much russian propaganda lately, it's hard to keep with the updates.

Or would be, if every single one of the updates didn't say 'debunked as russian propaganda lies'.

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: scrounger

Well technically the genocide agreement (Which Russia, actually signed) gives Russia the right to invade. But only because NATO refused to investigate or hold court hearings and rejected all evidence presented.

Ya know kinda like how the 22,000 pfizer pages of issues with the vaccine was purposely ignored and the claim was "it's safe with no known side effects" for almost a year before admitting any actual side effects.. Aka ignored evidence to push an agenda.


Corruption gives the right to act.

genocide agreement rights and responsibility here

States' obligations under the Genocide Convention
Obligation not to commit genocide (Article I as interpreted by the ICJ)
Obligation to prevent genocide (Article I) which, according to the ICJ, has an extraterritorial scope;
Obligation to punish genocide (Article I);
Obligation to enact the necessary legislation to give effect to the provisions of the Convention (Article V);
Obligation to ensure that effective penalties are provided for persons found guilty of criminal conduct according to the Convention (Article V);
Obligation to try persons charged with genocide in a competent tribunal of the State in the territory of which the act was committed, or by an international penal tribunal with accepted jurisdiction (Article VI);
Obligation to grant extradition when genocide charges are involved, in accordance with laws and treaties in force (Article VII), particularly related to protection granted by international human rights law prohibiting refoulment where there is a real risk of flagrant human rights violations in the receiving State.
International Day
Every year on 9 December, the United Nations marks the adoption of the Genocide Convention, which is also the International Day of Commemoration and Dignity of the Victims of the Crime of Genocide and of the Prevention of this Crime.

One thing they won't tell you is that Russia actually went through ALL the steps listed above, and was ignored.

seriously??

did you ACTUALLY READ what you posted before commenting?

no where does it allow or EVEN STATE a country unilaterally can just "invade" because they claim "genocide"
in fact you have yet to provide (outside of a LAUGHABLE CLAIM "THEY WENT THOUGH ALL THE STEPS) where they have PROVEN genocide..

add to it we have GENOCIDE all though the african continent and i have yet to see anyone INVADE to stop it..
have seen civil wars, invasions that in no way make this claim, but not "justified by genocide"

in fact if we follow your logic.. we can invade china.. you up for that?
or even russia itself during the old soviet days and all the republics how they were treated.. you also up for that??

again look at what you just posted.. show me the line that says ANY COUNTRY that is PROVEN (not "we think") genocide can invade another?

it does say YOU CANT LEGALLY COMMIT GENOCIDE and can be punished IF PROVEN IN A COURT....

sigh

your attempts at justification are getting worse and more laughable..
even your own "source" didnt say what you said it did

scrounger

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: scrounger

Are you trying to justify firing on fleeing civilians?

no but you are as long as its RUSSIANS doing it

btw still waiting for non russian USING PROVEN FACTS to back up this claim

we DO KNOW that russia is bombing hospitals and civilians.

scrounger

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You only mention Russians. Does that mean you approve of Ukrainians gunning down women and children who also happen to be Ukrainian but they typically identify with Russian heritage?

You are excusing it correct?

Of course not, I simply don't believe your absurd russian propaganda claiming that it's happening.

Especially after repeatedly making the same false accusations about murders russians committed in areas only occupied by russians.

And bombing out entire cities ww2 style, civilians and all.

And bombing over 200 hospitals all over Ukraine, sometimes repeatedly.



Russian propaganda has zero credibility, you might as well be posting Road Runner cartoons.

a reply to: scrounger

Obligation to punish genocide (Article I);


It also does not limit as to how this may be done in, especially in cases when said nation is being used by developed countries as an agenda, or a nation of high interest. (Given Bidens family ties).

But it does state that Russia has the obligation to punish a nation for genocide. All nations that signed the agreement have this obligation. But the US likes to bully people into taking it's side.

So these laws need to be updated, honored. But corruption from our country in the US and numerous times to Ukraine make it a favoritism that we did not punish them for the genocides they committed in the past.