Azov were Executing People as they Fled

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Ask him in the comments if you want.

I don't want. A spook wouldn't admit it and a liar would just ignore me or lie.

Either way, russian 'soldiers' were handing out (probably fake) food to definitely fake Ukrainians on the russian border while claiming to be in a Ukrainian city.

Again. In his video, he states it was on the Russian Ukraine border. He has no idea who was in the village and neither do you.

"fake Food" Your troll level is at 9,000

a reply to: BlackArrow

No, none of the civilians were part of the military. What you are alluding to is it was the job of men, women, and children to stand in front of them as meat shields.

What happened to them was a war crime committed by Ukraine. Many war crimes.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Sorry you misunderstood what I said. By law if your in any military including our own and you awol. You are either killed or imprisoned for decades.

Ukraine has their own rules, where every man/male child is automatically drafted into said wars on invasion and emergancy. If they flee they are executed. The less experienced and useless are used as meat shields.

This is their rules, this is how they operate. They are not the only country to do this. A lot of countries especially in the middle east do the same tactics. People forget that a lot of things that go on over there are completely different in culture.

a reply to: BlackArrow

Their laws allow the conscription of males 18 to 60.

If you consider 18 as a child so be it. However, conscripting means just that. They cannot suddenly say in the middle of a battle that every male they see of that age is now part of their army and must stand in front of them unarmed as a meat shield.


Nor does it allow them to fire on busloads of civilians with women and children because they believe some deserters mixed with them.

I get it though. You see the Ukraine as the same as a more primitive middle eastern society.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Obviously you didn't see the videos early on where they were teaching children in the classroom to build motif cocktails.

You don't have to be in the front line to be indoctrined into the military. Many of the kids were taught to build bombs and *assemble* bullets. Which they average 20-25 per kid per hour.

a reply to: BlackArrow

Teaching them how to do something doesn't mean they were conscripted. It doesn't mean every child is now part of their army.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Tell that to Vietnam vets who ran to save an injured and bloody child and got blown to pieces. In fact for the longest time that spurred racism against the Asian culture.

More then 70% of vets couldn't even look at Asian children without having flashbacks.

Building and assembling weapons means your a part of the war. Especially if your doing it, underground in Ukrainian bunkers.

War is ugly, stop trying to glorify it. They don't teach you to build bombs and send you to some other country when they know they are out numbered.

The ugly truth of war is any and all captives are valuable for any number of things.. including unmentionables. That includes your own citizens in desperate situations.

I also never said every child was a part of the army. Over 20million people got out in the early days before any gun fire even went off. Everyone that stayed, is and is fair game.. the ugly truth.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Ask him in the comments if you want.

I don't want. A spook wouldn't admit it and a liar would just ignore me or lie.

Either way, russian 'soldiers' were handing out (probably fake) food to definitely fake Ukrainians on the russian border while claiming to be in a Ukrainian city.

Again. In his video, he states it was on the Russian Ukraine border. He has no idea who was in the village and neither do you.

"fake Food" Your troll level is at 9,000

There was no village, that is the point.

a reply to: Grimpachi


It was russians shooting at busses full of civilians, they've been doing it since the first day of the war, including in humanitarian corridors.

Including trains and train stations full of civilians.

And also the hospitals the wounded civilians would have been taken to.



Keep repeating putin's propaganda though perhaps somebody will believe it someday.

Not your nazi weapons lab propaganda though, that's way too absurd.

a reply to: BlackArrow

So you are saying they are no better than terrorists who strap bombs to children.

In other words, you are not talking about military law, international law, or what their own law permits.

You first started off on what their law allows even though it didn't allow what you said now you have moved on to terrorism and animal behavior.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

The people of Mariupol say different. The only ones claiming what you said are the governments. You believe the governments.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

There was no village, that is the point.

The video shows them in a village.

a reply to: BlackArrow

Just to confirm, have you completely abandoned your original claim that Ukraine firing on civilians fleeing was legal?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

The people of Mariupol say different. The only ones claiming what you said are the governments. You believe the governments.

Only the people talking to lancaster, why do you think that is?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

There was no village, that is the point.

The video shows them in a village.

It shows them near a russian village, standing on a border crossing.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

That shows you didn't even watch the video you are arguing about. The video wasn't from Lancaster.

Deny ignorance

I am done with you.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Lol, and what you claimed there is racist within itself. Many cultures put the parents above the child because the child can not survive on its own. Surviving parents can always have more children.

Military and internation laws are two different things. What a military allows to go on in its own country is different then international laws which has been proven to be a load of bull#. But allows nations and civilians to defend it's country without sparking world wide incidents.

International laws for the most part are merely identification measures, with very few laws on governance which is determined only by those that sign said agreements..

Here is an example of a real international law,
15,000 immigrations a day that sets up residency allows civilians of a country to arm themselves to prevent the defined invasion, as this is considered an act of WAR by a said nation

Another is against genocide but only an agreement via those who sign it.

Part of the problem Russia and Ukraine has was they had an agreement, and it wasn't honored. NATO should of taken this into the higher courts. But they didn't, in fact Russia wanted this taken into higher courts however they were rejected despite enough evidence to fill a stadium.

Because if it had gone to the courts zelenski would of been removed from office/rulership if he was found guilty. But no trial commenced.

I know a lot about international law, but they haven't been held. We say one thing and do another then scold other nations for copying us.

A lot of this is because of that type of behavior. This is why we lost so much credibility on the world stage


And no, Ukraine firing on its own civilians for fleeing is actually legal. Otherwise zelenski would of said something by now. But he won't say anything against it because he needs to keep their military morale up. This it's accepted by those in charge.

Putin did, when a few civilians were harmed. In fact he punished those that were caught harming civilians.

a reply to: BlackArrow

Just to confirm, have you completely abandoned your original claim that Ukraine firing on civilians fleeing was legal?

a reply to: Grimpachi

And no, Ukraine firing on its own civilians for fleeing is actually legal. Otherwise zelenski would of said something by now. But he won't say anything against it because he needs to keep their military morale up. This it's accepted by those in charge.

Putin did, when a few civilians were harmed. In fact he punished those that were caught harming civilians.

And I know this because I watched him speak in pure Russian and translated it. He has zero tolerance for it, but good luck getting that news from us media. Think there was like 1 article maybe two on the punishments.

If I am not mistaken he actually killed one of this own generals for encouraging the behavior. But you won't find that outside of his actual speech. Because the translators are being fat from exact.

a reply to: BlackArrow

I completely disagree with you.

Zelensky isn't saying anything because admitting it would lose most of the support he has acquired through propaganda.