Bucha satellite images released

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

Anything on a screen can be made to look like whatever the going story wants it to. There are algorithms all looking for criticism from public opinion and when one goes viral they either endorse it or fack check it. It all depends on whether it is following their narrative or not. It is almost predictable. only one thing is becoming true whatever the media says, the exact opposite is nearer the true facts than the stated claim. Global warming is pushed when we are entering a solar minimum. Weapons of mass destruction, etc etc etc. The economy is great when it is clearly in trouble. What has happened? Has nobody thought it strange when with the flick of a pen, it can create a trillion dollars, but people are homeless..Whole societies are locked in their homes if they have one, for the past two years. They have been forced and coerced to take an experimental drug. Basic commodities are hyperinflating. When the right to protest is exercised, certain police act like thugs to incite a reaction. All the while looking more like paramilitary as the month progress. It isn't about Russia or Ukraine. it's about who is #ing around with an otherwise stable society for their own gain.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

Are those the actual pictures I mean it's not very clear here and why didn't they rotate them for us and they're not zoomable. Hard to say what I'm looking at.

a reply to: Grenade

Right. Because Russia commits no atrocities and is a victim of propaganda and illegal unnecessary sanctions. /sarc

No I don’t believe all the US says, but this Russia did nothing wrong and being framed and has done nothing wrong is tiring.

Every invasion from them atrocities like this happen. The Chechnya still claim what they said happened in 2000 happened. Their “own” people. Just like Ukrainians.

originally posted by: randomthoughts12
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

Are those the actual pictures I mean it's not very clear here and why didn't they rotate them for us and they're not zoomable. Hard to say what I'm looking at.

Isn't that odd? All it takes is some looking and the weak-assed narrative starts falling apart.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

I never said anything of the sort.

You took a valid point i made about the source then due to it's inconvenience went on a tirade of undue aspersions.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: randomthoughts12
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

Are those the actual pictures I mean it's not very clear here and why didn't they rotate them for us and they're not zoomable. Hard to say what I'm looking at.

Isn't that odd? All it takes is some looking and the weak-assed narrative starts falling apart.

Close up video and pictures meant it was fake and staged. Now they’re too distant so fake and stages. Can’t please everyone.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

I never said anything of the sort.

You took a valid point i made about the source then due to it's inconvenience went on a tirade of undue aspersions.

Your post history tool 5 seconds to look over. Your whole stance on Ukraine is American whataboutisms in Russias defense. Nice try to try and derail the point of my comment though.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker


People are already digging up the mass graves and pulling bodies out of sewers behind the russian retreat, these images are only meant to show that the mass graves and bound bodies that we already located on the ground existed before the russians left.

There is zero doubt that russians were committing massive war crimes in this area, none.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

Is it really?

Don't think i've ever defended Russia.

I have highlighted the hypocrisy of the US government and the criminals running Zelensky.

If your opinions were driven by forces other than the MSM you'd see that.

a reply to: Snarl

Everytime!

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: PassiveSeeker


People are already digging up the mass graves and pulling bodies out of sewers behind the russian retreat, these images are only meant to show that the mass graves and bound bodies that we already located on the ground existed before the russians left.

There is zero doubt that russians were committing massive war crimes in this area, none.

It won’t matter as the bodies are dug up and the pictures and video posted. It’ll either be Ukrainians did it or staged. Same as the videos and pictures from the other day.

Just as I said would happen with this. I knew the stance would switch from the images won’t be posted because it didn’t happen to fake and tampered with. No one’s original. Like they’re all reading from a generic script that’s too easy to predict.

I think we are getting the cart before the horse here. When the hostilities end, then they can start investigating war crimes - on both sides. Right now, they need to keep working on kicking Russian invader *** 👍

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

It's the personification of self-righteous arrogance to dismiss any challenge to your debate pre-emptively. If you want an echo chamber, you've come to the wrong forum.

a reply to: Grenade

I’ve dismissed nothing. I just always ponder why no one ever admits they don’t know or change their stance. I’ve said several times in this thread and others about things I doubted and don’t know about from both sides. Most are one track minded and use the same argument over and over. Its not even a debate. It’s just the same people repeating the same sentences.

Never, damn maybe Russia did this. Or did that.

I myself asked if Maxar was paid for in this thread. Because I’m open to suggestion and feedback. Not mindlessly repeating the same answers and same whataboutisms.

This is getting confusing. BBC wrote on 14th march that the Ukrainians are digging Mass graves. in Mariupol and Bucha.

Now it‘s the russians?
And as somebody aroeady mentionend: eyewitness report tell again another story. That civilians have been killed when the russians retreated.

www.bbc.com...

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

You dismissed me pretty quickly, seemingly you know my opinion without ever asking for it.

I'm willing to treat anyone with respect, listen and debate their views, IF i'm offered the same courtesy. If not, then you'll see the other side of my debating technique.

a reply to: svetlana84


BBC reported that Ukrainians were digging mass graves there to bury all the civilians russia was killing by artillery and air strikes.

That also happened.

a reply to: svetlana84

No room to bury the bodies during the occupation. Different sites to my knowledge. As said in your source the one in Burcha was all the way on the outskirts. Was probably civilian made to get bodies off the street.

How do we know those bodies aren't mannequins? (Somebody had to say it....)

US government outsources many things now, as it affords plausible deniability. Halliburtan ring a bell? More where that came from. Sub-contracting saved Bush's butt.

a reply to: Grenade

I see you around occasionally and did a summary glance of your post history on topic. Do it to get a feel of everyone’s opinion. I apologize if you felt I dismissed you or your opinion. Even if it’s in disagreement I respect…most.. people opinion and take on things.