Alleged killings in Bucha Make No Sense NY Times Reporter Mentions Far Right!

a reply to: Guyfriday


Please ask him to include footage that has enough background for geolocating if he can.

There's so much fake stuff out there I completely stopped watching anything that wasn't already geo located by a 3rd party several weeks ago.

So after all of these years in power, with his finger on the button, Putin decides to use ethnic Ukrainians as target practice....for no reason?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

I'll ask him for whatever he has and feels comfortable making public. Given the situation over there I'll take whatever it is. So, if it's only stories I'll share what I can, I'm hoping for at least pictures but if he has video then I'll push him for them.

Knowing him, he'll most likely still have any maps used so I can scan and post those if I can get them. I can't guaranty anything, but I will try to get what I can form him. Hell, if I can get enough info from him I'll just make a new thread about it. We'll see what I can get though.

a reply to: Guyfriday


Even just notable buildings in the background that we can find google images or satellite maps of is enough, but war reporters are usually trained to not show any of that.

The more of that he can include, the more believable his video becomes, same for anyone over there.

a reply to: FlyingFox

That's the million-dollar question, the reason why Putin isn't doing a tour of Kief at the moment is that they haven't bombed their way to it. They seem very restrained. Which is hampering the military effort. I doubt whether he gives a toss for world opinion because he already knows he will be painted as a Perahia, western media have been working on him for years. The problem is that it hasn't really worked that well.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

He wants to save ethnic-speaking Russians in the Eastern part of the country who favor Moscow from getting slaughtered by the western half who don't want to have half the country friendly with Russia. If the Americans left it alone it would all be settled by now. But they did their usual thing and shoved a puppet government in like they always do. It is cheaper than invading but has its downside when enough people want to get rid of the puppet. They left Afghanistan simply because it was costing too much, an American army is very beneficial for an economy, they are well paid and the soldiers are quite generous.

Please post any evidence (like news reports) that there was any organized ethnic violence in Ukraine prior to the invasion.

And why, if the Russians in the Eastern part of the country were under threat, did the Russians begin missile and airstrikes throughout Ukraine, rather than defending just Donbas and Luhansk?

And how well would such airstrikes selectively hit only anti-Russian forces in those other regions, where those regions were high density urban ones such as the cities of Kiyv, Kharkiv, Kyiv, Sumy, and Mariupol?

a reply to: chr0naut

I have mainly from a French journalist, who claims that nobody wants to hear. www.bitchute.com...

a reply to: anonentity


She is talking about the shelling of russian invaders in dombas beginning in 2014, russian propagandists refer to them as 'civilians'.

Everyone already knows.

She also didn't provide any kind of evidence in that video, just accusations.

a reply to: chr0naut

more than 3k civilians killed in Ukraine pre invasion: ukraine.un.org...

a reply to: svetlana84


'Civilians'.

And after russia invaded part of Ukraine to steal their land there.

So "far right" soldiers can't defend their own country against an invading army??!!

You live in cloud cuckoo land mate!

There are many of what the woke idiots in the west would term as "far right" in our own forces
In fact most soldiers from my personal experience hold conservative politics and values which is why the left hate us so much.

I don't give a damn if the person fighting beside me is left or right wing as long as he has my back!

The op is ridiculous

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Nobody in their right minds invades a country for land anymore. The Netherlands exports most of the food for Europe these days. Or I should say they used to when the price of heating the greenhouses was economical.

a reply to: anonentity


I agree, and think putin has lost his mind.

He seems to be living in a delusional version of reality.

originally posted by: svetlana84
a reply to: chr0naut

more than 3k civilians killed in Ukraine pre invasion: ukraine.un.org...

Yes, the majority of those deaths were in the Crimea, which was annexed by Russian military forces in 2014, and that same Russian military which took up residence there, has been involved in ethnic violence against Ukrainian resistance fighters in the region since then.

... And the protesters in the Euromaidan that was the point of the page you linked to, were Ukrainian people protesting against Russian political pressure against the democratically elected government, and Russian influenced human rights abuses.

a reply to: chr0naut

conveniently leaving the part out that Ukraine was fighting 6 years to get these terroritores back, while killing civilians in the process.

a reply to: svetlana84

Best way to end the civilian deaths is simply for Russia to stop their terror campaigns against civilians, and stop destroying food and infrastructure.

a reply to: anonentity

Well Russiantroll said Putin is going to bomb the rest of Europe once he's done with capturing Ukraine, lol. So maybe they have to save the bombs for that.

a reply to: svetlana84


Ukraine is allowed to defend it's territory from russian invasion and land stealing.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

i am not denying ukr right to defend. I am pointing out that they kill civilians.

a reply to: svetlana84


Without any evidence of such.