War crimes being committed by Ukraine (GRAPHIC)

a reply to: dragonridr

If you checked and say I am wrong, don't just make a claim. Post a screenshot.

Maxar has been contacted and Maxar Technologies refused to sell images from the Bucha from the WorldView and GeoEye-1 satellites dated March 19, 22 and 23, which could confirm the New York Times story.
The publication stated that the bodies were allegedly discovered even before the withdrawal of Russian troops.
Maxar noted that they can only provide satellite images taken on March 31 (during this period, the units of the RF already left the city), explaining that the materials are allegedly unavailable. Although they are in the catalog.

The pictures are real, but the date of shooting on the frames is falsified.

Satellite company: we have photos showing that bodies were left on streets for weeks.
Everyone: can we see?
Satellite company: No.
Everyone: but we'll pay you.
Satellite company: No
Everyone: why not?
Satellite company: Reasons.
Everyone: you don't have the photos, they're fake, you've been lying.
Satellite company: no we've not been lying
Everyone: then why can't you give us the photos?
Satellite company: Reasons

a reply to: Grimpachi

Sorry that didnt happen you can purchase the images go ahead and spend the money the only ones restricted are Russians per their policy you know sanctions and all. oh and they don't own that satellite your wrong again the satellite you are referring to is owned by DigitalGlobe however you could order images from them as well if you like.

a reply to: dragonridr

No screenshot

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: dragonridr

No screenshot

Go track the satellite its designator is WV02 aka WORDVIEW-2 and it crossed on the 19th. Its up to you to prove it didn't take the pictures when it did so.

a reply to: dragonridr

No one said it didn't cross. Did you not comprehend what was written?

The time and date.

The times do not match and that is proven through sun calc.

Prove me wrong. I have already posted screenshots.

a reply to: dragonridr

oh and they don't own that satellite your wrong again the satellite you are referring to is owned by DigitalGlobe however you could order images from them as well if you like.

link

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: dragonridr

No one said it didn't cross. Did you not comprehend what was written?

The time and date.

The times do not match and that is proven through sun calc.

Prove me wrong. I have already posted screenshots.

You really are an idiot, aren't you? You cannot use sun calculations to disprove the sat took the picture. Shadows will always look different from 365 miles above its called imaging. In case you don't know that's not just 1 image that is the images put together while the sat was overhead for roughly 2 hours. So I will tell you what will just go a different route altogether.

Here this was released by Russian news showing on April 1st that the area was still controlled by Russian troops see the date!

tvzvezda.ru...

“The commander of one of the Marine units Alexey Shabulin noted that currently Russian Marines conduct search and reconnaissance operations and clean up settlements with the further task of gaining a foothold in them”, the TV Zvezda article stated.

On the morning of April 1, meanwhile, a video was shared on Telegram featuring the secretary of the Bucha City Council, Taras Shapravsky, stating: “Currently, the city remains under occupation, many mines, houses and even corpses. Therefore, we ask those who remain not to approach dangerous objects. The liberation of the city continues, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, territorial defense are working to regain every meter of native land

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Ok so now we know they were there on the 1st we have proof from Russia and Ukraine.

So let's look at a video from April 1st which shows bodies lying in the streets.

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here's another

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So now that only leaves you one argument left and will take care of that as well. Yes we can prove the photos were taken in that area and not staged or faked here is the locations of the killings.

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So now stop promoting stupid Russian propaganda

a reply to: Grimpachi

There are actually 4 sites capable of talking to the sat and each is owned by someone else. The sat was owned by digital globe and was purchased by MDA. In other words, they acquired the company and its assets.

On 8 April 2020, Toronto -based investment firm Northern Private Capital bought the MDA assets from Maxar for C$ 1 billion (US$ 765 million). and named the new company MDA; the company is headquartered in Canada.

So as I said you're wrong again used to e owned and currently owns are very different things. I wasn't going to go into this I was just pointing out you were wrong

a reply to: dragonridr

You really are an idiot, aren't you?

I am pretty sure you are.

Here is a link on how to calculate the approximate time by shadows. With photosyou can get a pretty precise measurement at how tall markers are.

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Here this was released by Russian news showing on April 1st that the area was still controlled by Russian troops see the date!

I am really questioning your intelligence at this point. It doesn't show them in the area on April first the article was published on April 1st.

Furthermore, it states the Marines were holding back forces coming from the area of Bucha, not that they were in Bucha.

The units of the airborne troops, in cooperation with the marines, successfully held back the actions of the enemy forces in the direction of Gostomel - Bucha - Ozera for five days. As a result, the marines were able to take full control of the territory from the Irpen River towards Kiev, with a total length of five kilometers.

Did you not even notice that this is a story about them taking territory? Also answer me this. How can this be the 1st if they are taking fire from the direction of Bucha when UAF states they didn't go into Bucha until the 2nd?

Here this was released by Russian news showing on April 1st that the area was still controlled by Russian troops see the date!

And here is the Mayor on the 31st

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[ Video ]
Thread regarding so-called "#Russian war crimes" in Bucha
RU MoD reports they left Bucha on March 30th. Even if we don't believe it -on March 31st Bucha Mayor confirmed it. April 1st video shown on "#Ukraine-24 TV". All this time, no one talks about any "corpses on the streets" t.co...

So let's look at a video from April 1st which shows bodies lying in the streets.

Those are videos from April 2nd. You know the Date they stated that UAF went there. Nice videos showing shelling damage though.

So now that only leaves you one argument left and will take care of that as well. Yes we can prove the photos were taken in that area and not staged or faked here is the locations of the killings.

I already knew where the videos were taken it was on Yablunska Street. Which is in the orange square in the first map I posted. Nice propaganda video though. Here is a screenshot at 19 seconds.


Now here is a screenshot of an article from March 12 in Irpin. I would also post video but ATS is a pain.



Notice anything?



Soaking in MSM has been known to cause mental issues leading to personality disorders.
Symptoms include confusion, indignation, and rage when exposed to the truth.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Again no you cant the images are run through software taking hundreds of images to improve the quality of the image. That satellite image you are trying to compare is digitally enhanced by taking hundreds of photos to help clear up the image and do things like remove shadows. And you want to try to compare shadows that were specifically removed from the image again this satellite is 380 miles away without digital imaging things like clouds get in the way. Wow, you will believe anything some Russian stooge says on the internet as long as it supports your argument huh?

The image you are trying to compare (I'm going to go real slow so you can keep up) is run through a software program it takes parts of hundreds of pictures to clear them up and replace parts missing due to those white fuzzy things we call clouds. The company MDA that purchased the sat we were discussing actually created software to do this. Its called stitching where they take several images to create 1 layer Oh and they can even add in other sats like a radar for example.

Now please just stop I'm getting embarrassed for you at this point .

a reply to: Grimpachi

Very informative post

A++

a reply to: dragonridr

You should be embarrassed. I am embarrassed for you.

You keep moving the goalposts and throwing things at the wall hoping something will stick. None has.

Now you have resorted to claiming that there is no way those images are accurate because of image software,

You have been soaking in MSM for too long. You need to take a break. I am worried about your health.

a reply to: Grimpachi

You seriously have way too much spare time on your hands dude.

All that matters though, is that Russia invaded a sovereign country and has murdered thousands of innocent civilians and displaced millions more, as well as destroying many cities and towns, for no good reason.

Some crazy rant about Nazis and drug addicts is the only thing Putin has provided us to justify this blatant genocide.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: dragonridr

You should be embarrassed. I am embarrassed for you.

You keep moving the goalposts and throwing things at the wall hoping something will stick. None has.

Now you have resorted to claiming that there is no way those images are accurate because of image software,

You have been soaking in MSM for too long. You need to take a break. I am worried about your health.

No, you are just stuck in the 1960s and don't understand how they work today. I'm done arguing I tell you what contact the company in fact any company that provides imaging and prove me wrong. Tell them you don't want an enhanced image you just want a satellite photo and see how many clouds block your view. It's amazing you act like the atmosphere isn't there wow. Oh and it distorts images as well which has to be corrected. The same problems we have to correct to view stars also effects satellites.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Grimpachi

Some crazy rant about Nazis and drug addicts is the only thing Putin has provided us to justify this blatant genocide.

Because that's all you want to believe.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

More than that matters to me. It is how either side conducts themselves in this war.

Using civilians as human shields, using schools, kindergartens, and hospitals as bases, Using civilian Ambulances as troop and weapon transport, the treatment of prisoners, shelling civilian centers for no logical reason at all.

All that matters to me beyond who invaded who.

I think what is going on with a lot of people is their guilt is driving them. They want to get behind the defenders for once, after 20+ years of backing the invaders.

a reply to: dragonridr

Nah, just prove what you are claiming is true. Prove that the shadows are not a true representation of the photo they took. It is your claim. The onus is on you.

FYI people have been doing this for a long time. Determining the time and date of satellite imagery from the shadows. The purpose of digital imagery is to get a better pic than with film, not a convoluted one.

I am also done with you and your articles that don't show what you claim and videos where you claim erroneous dates that they were made along with your propaganda videos showing an entirely different village.

a reply to: Grimpachi

The fact remains though.

Which is there wouldn’t be millions of completely innocent civilians displaced if Russia had of just remained at home and not invaded the Ukraine in the first place.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Grimpachi

Some crazy rant about Nazis and drug addicts is the only thing Putin has provided us to justify this blatant genocide.

Because that's all you want to believe.

Is there any evidence of anything else?

A volunteer Danish soldier (ex Danish army), was interviewed by national tv and gave his account of the torture of Russian POWs.

He confirms having seen what the videos show.

The Ukrainians are tourturing their POWs......

Digusting country. They dont deserve our help.
They dont deserve being part of NATO. They dont deserve being part of the EU.

Let them fall...