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NATO SAYS 7000-15000 DEAD RUSSIANS-Evidence?
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
You Do Realize that the Current Russian Republic has Inherited Soviet Military Tech that Can Destroy the Planet Earth Completely ? Do you Really Want to Go there ? Are you MAD ?
And if they didn't actually physically invade another country we would not be having this conversation.
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
I am Neither One of Those
If when I say ....
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Russia admitted 500 dead over 3 weeks ago, what do you think that number has risen to since then?
You hear ...
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Oh , so you then Agree with Klaus Schwab and George Soros that the Russian Republic Needs to Be Conquered in the Name of the NEW WORLD ORDER and their Tyrannical Agenda > ? Oh , I see.......
Then it's actually worse if you are neither. If you aren't feigning stupidity because of an agenda then it's real.
originally posted by: shaemac
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: shaemac
The old “it was a hack” excuse?
Full context
But on Monday, the Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, which frequently posts pro-Kremlin news reports, published a bombshell buried deep in a news story about the war: “According to Russian defence ministry data … 9,861 Russian soldiers had been killed in action and another 16,153 had been wounded.”
Just minutes later, the line was gone. No other Russian news agencies reported the remarks, and it was not clear why Komsomolskaya Pravda alone would have access to that information.
Screenshots and archived versions of the deleted report quickly went viral, as critics pointed to the article as evidence that the Kremlin was suffering catastrophic losses in the month-old war.
The paper later claimed that its site had been hacked. “Access to the administrative interface was hacked on the Komsomolskaya Pravda website and a fake was made in this publication about the situation around the special operation in Ukraine,” the website wrote. “The false information was immediately deleted.”
theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/22/how-many-russian-soldiers-died-ukraine-losses
Because hacking never occurs? Employees for cyber security is the most needed position in the world.
So. A Ukrainian hacker hacked into an Russian article using the administrative account to just insert only one line that is probably close to the actual truth, less than the 15,000 by around 5000, and the Kremlin will not release actual numbers to shed light on the situation. Nor provide anything that can be substantiated?
Yaaa, not so much.
Ok?
a reply to: neutronflux
Russia admitted over 500 soon after the war started, over 3 weeks ago, not sure why anyone thinks 7000 is outrageous.
Russia admitted over 500 soon after the war started, over 3 weeks ago, not sure why anyone thinks 7000 is outrageous.
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Because by that metric to me sounds like throwing bodies at a problem instead of learning from mistakes and adapting to the situation. Most good commanders don’t just throw bodies at a problem unless it’s a last resort.
Because by that metric to me sounds like throwing bodies at a problem instead of learning from mistakes and adapting to the situation. Most good commanders don’t just throw bodies at a problem unless it’s a last resort.
originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Because by that metric to me sounds like throwing bodies at a problem instead of learning from mistakes and adapting to the situation. Most good commanders don’t just throw bodies at a problem unless it’s a last resort.
Well if they had good commanders and a well thought out battle plan they wouldn't be bogged down a month into the war they were expected to win in days.
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I hear so much bs about either side I can’t honestly comment on the situation on the ground.
I hear so much bs about either side I can’t honestly comment on the situation on the ground.
originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I hear so much bs about either side I can’t honestly comment on the situation on the ground.
Russia is still fighting, nothing more needs to be said. How many Russian generals have been killed so far? Why are generals on the front line?
edit on 24-3-2022 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: randomuser
Pro Kremlin tabloid report says that 10,000 Russians were killed already. The report was taken down scrubbed and put back up. But the internet archive still has it for you:
www.kp.ru..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Report from Internet Archive of 10,000 dead Russians
I have seen footage of Ukrainians piling up mountains of dead Russians on Twitter. I didn't keep the link, and wouldn't post it if I did.
ETA:
OK. For some reason it will not let me link the archive. But I found a news article that references it you can open up this article and from there open up the link to the archived report:
Pro-Kremlin Tabloid Briefly Reports Massive Russian Casualty Number, Citing Putin’s Defense Ministry
ETA:
From the article:
The paper, Komsomolskaya Pravda, said in an article that 9,861 Russian soldiers had died and 16,153 had been injured during the invasion, according to data from the Defense Ministry. However, the article was reposted minutes later without the paragraph providing information on casualties. The original article was captured by the Internet Archive.
Yeah because the Russian Pravda newspaper claimed to have been hacked and that figure was inserted falsely:
Source: www.google.com...[editb y]edit on 24-3-2022 by ISeekTruth101 because: (no reason given)
a reply to: ISeekTruth101
Claimed. Not sure why anyone who hacked them would make only that one change. 10,000 seems pretty reasonable based on the fact we know generals are on the front line because the soldiers they are using are conscripts with no clue what they are doing, and that over 3 weeks ago when this all started Russia already acknowledged over 500 deaths.
Claimed. Not sure why anyone who hacked them would make only that one change. 10,000 seems pretty reasonable based on the fact we know generals are on the front line because the soldiers they are using are conscripts with no clue what they are doing, and that over 3 weeks ago when this all started Russia already acknowledged over 500 deaths.
The figures are BS propaganda and lies.. just like:
“Ghost of Kyiv downing 10 russian jets singlehandedly”
“The supposed *russian* strela 20 crushing a poor ukranian civilian”
“Snake Island Ukranian soldiers being bombarded”
“Ukranians having full control of Makariv town driving Russian forces into the ground”
Loads of lies peddled by the MSM and Ukraine.
10,000 russians dead but couple hundred ukranians yeah sure
“Ghost of Kyiv downing 10 russian jets singlehandedly”
“The supposed *russian* strela 20 crushing a poor ukranian civilian”
“Snake Island Ukranian soldiers being bombarded”
“Ukranians having full control of Makariv town driving Russian forces into the ground”
Loads of lies peddled by the MSM and Ukraine.
10,000 russians dead but couple hundred ukranians yeah sure
The figures are BS propaganda and lies.. just like:
“Ghost of Kyiv downing 10 russian jets singlehandedly”
“The supposed *russian* strela 20 crushing a poor ukranian civilian”
“Snake Island Ukranian soldiers being bombarded”
“Ukranians having full control of Makariv town driving Russian forces into the ground”
Loads of lies peddled by the MSM and Ukraine.
10,000 russians dead but couple hundred ukranians yeah sure
“Ghost of Kyiv downing 10 russian jets singlehandedly”
“The supposed *russian* strela 20 crushing a poor ukranian civilian”
“Snake Island Ukranian soldiers being bombarded”
“Ukranians having full control of Makariv town driving Russian forces into the ground”
Loads of lies peddled by the MSM and Ukraine.
10,000 russians dead but couple hundred ukranians yeah sure
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: ISeekTruth101
Claimed. Not sure why anyone who hacked them would make only that one change. 10,000 seems pretty reasonable based on the fact we know generals are on the front line because the soldiers they are using are conscripts with no clue what they are doing, and that over 3 weeks ago when this all started Russia already acknowledged over 500 deaths.
Well I posted the sources several hours ago, anyways if 10,000 is believable russian losses to you then what avout Ukrainian losses?
I’m listening.
I am still waiting on photographic evidence of 10000 KIA From the Ukrainian military. Oh wait there is none.
I did see a cnn article that said something like
“ Bodies are piling up from dead Russian soldiers and Ukraine doesn’t know what to do with all the bodies”
There was a picture of a graveyard with wooded crosses like maybe 40 of them on the CNN article. It honestly looked like some stock Getty picture from AP they bought years ago.
That picture didn’t prove 10000 KIA.
I did see a cnn article that said something like
“ Bodies are piling up from dead Russian soldiers and Ukraine doesn’t know what to do with all the bodies”
There was a picture of a graveyard with wooded crosses like maybe 40 of them on the CNN article. It honestly looked like some stock Getty picture from AP they bought years ago.
That picture didn’t prove 10000 KIA.
edit on 24-3-2022 by Brassmonkey because: Grammar
originally posted by: Brassmonkey
I am still waiting on photographic evidence of 10000 KIA From the Ukrainian military. Oh wait there is none.
I did see a cnn article that said something like
“ Bodies are piling up from dead Russian soldiers and Ukraine doesn’t know what to do with all the bodies”
There was a picture of a graveyard with wooded crosses like maybe 40 of them.
That picture didn’t prove 10000 KIA.
The worst part is the MSM spinning it as russian forced have been decimated, 10,000 dead... they now need to rush to get reinforcements.
And I’m thinking, okay ... Russia had 200,000 odd thousand invasion force to begin with and thats only 5% if losses are true. And then Russia have 900,000 in armed forces.
So how people fall for this crap is beyond me. Like Russia only have less than 20,000 in its army.
edit on 24-3-2022 by ISeekTruth101 because:
(no reason given)
Exactly!!! Thank you.
If these figures were accurate The media and especially Ukraine would be chomping at the Bit to get pictures so they can get lots of clicks on the Insta and Tiky Toky
a reply to: Brotherman
If these figures were accurate The media and especially Ukraine would be chomping at the Bit to get pictures so they can get lots of clicks on the Insta and Tiky Toky
a reply to: Brotherman
a reply to: ISeekTruth101
Depends, are we counting civilian deaths? I am sure Ukraine has thousands of losses as well.
Depends, are we counting civilian deaths? I am sure Ukraine has thousands of losses as well.
a reply to: Brassmonkey
How are things in Ukraine? With the propaganda machines on all sides are at full steam it is hard to decipher what is actually happening. That leaves us to piece together what we think based on each sides claims and generally the truth is somewhere in the middle.
With this latest bit of news of a russian warship being destroyed things dont look great for either side.
www.bbc.com...
Russia does seem to be struggling to push forward but many theories on that conflict. Some say Russia is only using conscripts and military hardware that is older and not updated to push into Ukraine while leaving its top tier troops and equipment at home ready to defend itself should anyone get involved
Others say Russia only has nukes and their military is dysfunctional and outdated.
With the loss of a warship it seems like a horrific blow to Russia but as I dug in deeper past the headlines it appears to be a Soviet era landing ship for transporting hardware/troops. A soviet era ship is pretty old so this also lends to the theory Russia isnt deploying latest and greatest tech.
The fact Zelensky is still alive and well speaks volumes that either way the Ukrainians are putting up one hell of a fight.
How are things in Ukraine? With the propaganda machines on all sides are at full steam it is hard to decipher what is actually happening. That leaves us to piece together what we think based on each sides claims and generally the truth is somewhere in the middle.
With this latest bit of news of a russian warship being destroyed things dont look great for either side.
www.bbc.com...
Russia does seem to be struggling to push forward but many theories on that conflict. Some say Russia is only using conscripts and military hardware that is older and not updated to push into Ukraine while leaving its top tier troops and equipment at home ready to defend itself should anyone get involved
Others say Russia only has nukes and their military is dysfunctional and outdated.
With the loss of a warship it seems like a horrific blow to Russia but as I dug in deeper past the headlines it appears to be a Soviet era landing ship for transporting hardware/troops. A soviet era ship is pretty old so this also lends to the theory Russia isnt deploying latest and greatest tech.
The fact Zelensky is still alive and well speaks volumes that either way the Ukrainians are putting up one hell of a fight.
With tanks carrying 4 crew and APC's carrying 6 to 8 plus troop trucks carrying 8 to 10 I do not dought that 7000 to 10000 Russian troops have been
killed.
add in that the ukrainians are fighting to hold ground from fixed positions and the Russians are having to move in the open to take ground.
Plus, the Russians do not have a medical corp like the US does for their troops.
add in that the ukrainians are fighting to hold ground from fixed positions and the Russians are having to move in the open to take ground.
Plus, the Russians do not have a medical corp like the US does for their troops.