Searching for Source Text of Carl Jung quote

I'm trying to locate the source text for a quote from Carl Jung:

The difference between a good life and a bad life is how well you walk through the fire.

I've tried several different search methods, and though the quote comes up fairly often and easily, no luck with the original source.

a reply to: RedKaliBlack

I don't think Jung ever said this.

"what matters most is how well you walk through the fire" is from the Charles Bukowski poem 'How Is Your Heart?'

That might be true; Bukowski could have borrowed it or said it himself. If the Jung quote isn't from him, I can't use it, so that's why if it is, I need a source. I've read maybe a quarter of Jung's work or more and haven't run across it, but then again, only a quarter ain't much, esp. with Jung.
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a reply to: RedKaliBlack

If it really was a Jung quote, it would be easily sourced, not just something attributed to him on inspirational quote images shared by my grandmother on Facebook with the caption "1 like = 1 hug".

You can even search all his works on Google books by that phrase. If it was part of an interview, it would likely be digitized due to Jungs popularity.

Another possibility is that he said something longer which got paraphrased into something more memorable.
In the same way that Churchill's "blood, toil, tears and sweat" has become "blood, sweat and tears" in popular speech.

Yes, this is what I'm thinking. A meme unfortunately doesn't disprove or prove an original source either way. It's the original I'm looking for, if it exists. a reply to: DISRAELI

originally posted by: RedKaliBlack
I'm trying to locate the source text for a quote from Carl Jung:

The difference between a good life and a bad life is how well you walk through the fire.

I've tried several different search methods, and though the quote comes up fairly often and easily, no luck with the original source.

From AZ Quotes:

The difference between a good life and a bad life is how well you walk through the fire.
Carl Jung

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a reply to: nugget1

Yes; finding the source in a verified print source, though, is proving more tricky, though I admittedly haven't really put the elbow grease work in yet. (turned to the socials instead!)

Jung is one of the authors who presents certain challenges: highly excerpted and quoted; wrote in a language other than English, which is mine, so all kinds of different translations in many languages; wrote a bulk of material pre-World War II media/publishing; published in a variety of ways, i.e. letters, journals, diaries, etc. that during his lifetime were either not published at all (i.e. the Red Book) or were published as excerpts or parts of other works; huge body of work with often esoteric language/concepts that is hard to "break down" into an Internet style presentation.

So it's one of the interesting paradoxes of our time, playing out on every stage: in an age that grants easy, near unlimited access to information, discerning what is accurate and what is not is more of a challenge than ever, if nothing else due to the incredible volume of information which nonetheless beings to be filtered into increasingly dominant, homogenized forms, i.e. the Jung quote.

It's all very interesting to me, as it becomes an issue when one wishes to include a quote in a scholarly or even popularly published book.

To truly verify if Jung said this and in what form, one would have to be quite familiar with a huge breadth of his written work. That unfortunately (imo, which is that Jung is one of the most important thinkers in modern history, maybe history thus far) doesn't include many people, unfortunately myself included, though I'm advancing through it sloooowly.

Anyway, thank to everyone who responded; I'm still looking for the source, and if I find it I'll update. If not, well, only Jung knows for certain.

In the USA, ask a reference librarian. If that doesn't work, send in that question to the Library of Congress.

Most of the librarians in the two towns I live near can't help me locate a book on the shelf let alone a quote from Carl Jung. They can, however, help me log into a computer; navigate the huge section dedicated to online work; find a social service resource; help me learn English; steer me to a hot shower and food bank; and welcome me to the transgender/BIPOC book clubs *if* my vax status is good enough. I might be guilty of some evil sarcastic exaggeration here; but not much. Thanks for your reply, though, it was sincere, and yes, I have not done enough exploring of the Library of Congress as a resource. a reply to: Uphill

a reply to: RedKaliBlack -- fair enough, but *not* all librarians are reference librarians. When in doubt, ask a library employee for the location of their "reference desk." That's what it's called in most US libraries. Ask the person working at that desk if they are a reference librarian, in order to make sure. Larger US communities have more experienced reference librarians, but any US reference librarian will have a graduate school degree from an accredited library school. Where I live, the city of Los Angeles (main branch library) has the most experienced reference librarians. Hang in there.

I understand libraries well enough, yes. When I can find an actual reference librarian, usually on a top floor with no one around, they too are mostly tech experts these days. And they're inclined to do the exact same thing I do: go online and begin searching. Nothing wrong with that, but finding a librarian, reference or otherwise, who could locate an actual book source (online or not) for me with the original quote, which is the only type of source I can use for my purposes, seems like a long shot based on the two libraries I've mentioned. I do live somewhat near a big university library, and that's a better option of course, but they only just allowed civilians back in after the Covid thing. (P.S. When I was in education, I began a program for school librarian certification; my classes were almost all about tech even then, some ten plus years ago, so the effect of that kind of emphasis is in play, I suppose. The classes on budgeting helped explain why--people want tech.) a reply to: Uphill

I've reread my posts and see that I sound quite cynical about libraries! I love libraries; they are actually sacred places to me. And the changes going on in the field reflect the whole world going through this tech/AI revolution...it'll balance out, just hard for this geezer who luvs those books. a reply to: Uphill

a reply to: RedKaliBlack -- I hear you, but I took a few library school classes myself, and I remember that in the reference class, even to this day, library school students are required to know how to find key information in print resources as well as online.

Sure, but like any skill, you use it or you lose it. In the budgeting classes, it became clear that with Amazon, Internet content, etc., the demographics of libraries had changed to a lower income earning population. Some of the younger students in the field had very different visions for what a modern library should even be (huge fight in class--degree was all online--about some public libraries offering shower services to the homeless, like in trucker stops on the road). Even those more traditionalist types could not ignore that most of their current patrons wanted more tech, not necessarily more books, let alone by the likes of Carl Jung. The biggest, most well stocked sections of my nearest library are the children's section; the DVD and video section; large print section; and the computer use section. That completely reflects my communities' user base. Now the library in the more wealthy town farther away is better stocked and more balanced between books and tech; and the farthest university one is top notch, though even there the tech floor, rooms, online content and access, etc. expand every year that goes by, edging out the books. Somewhat off topic, all this, but anything about libraries and books is interesting to me. a reply to: Uphill

somehow I also became interested in such a question, but I couldn’t find another author, I see you succeeded

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