News Views 3.11.2022

Hello ATS,

Garland discusses more about Ukraine with a special guest, Ray McGovern, who is a former CIA agent and a Foreign Policy Specialist under 7 Presidents. Garland even plays a clip where Lindsay Graham and John Mc Cain go to Ukraine in 2014 to urge them to attack Russia, and they make the promise that the US will give them the weapons and tech they need to fight Russia.

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Interesting!! What says ATS?

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a reply to: lostbook

Garland even plays a clip where Lindsay Graham and John Mc Cain go to Ukraine in 2014 to urge them to attack Russia, and they make the promise that the US will give them the weapons

That urge to attack Russians was Donbass. The prelude to the current conflict and escalation. McCain was seen talking in a room supposedly full of far right soldiers with the national guard.

Lindsay Graham than wonders why reacted and attacked Ukraine?

Man I'm not sure how all of this will turn out in the end of this conflict, but I am confident that you are going to earn a "Hero of Russia" award. You are not trying to decipher this mess, you are outright supporting Russia.








a reply to: vNex92

a reply to: lostbook

The blank quote is very provocative 🪀

a reply to: vNex92

🥳️And in the 21st Century World of opposites, far right soldiers are really far left agenteers 🚬

a reply to: vance

You are not trying to decipher this mess, you are outright supporting Russia.

"you are outright supporting Russia"
So you are either with us or arent nonsense?

Russia is being blamed on everything even inflation.
You still haven't challenged my take on Lindsay Graham and John there.

Those two had been pushing this kind of war of words for a while.

originally posted by: vance

Man I'm not sure how all of this will turn out in the end of this conflict, but I am confident that you are going to earn a "Hero of Russia" award. You are not trying to decipher this mess, you are outright supporting Russia.
a reply to: vNex92

Understanding why Russia acted as they did, the full context behind it, and countering the absolute steamrolling that the truth is getting on this website isn't implicitly supporting Russia. It's also not supporting Russia to hold the US and NATO to the same standard they want applied to Russia. It upsets me that my country isn't trying to be better than the standard they're holding Russia to. Shouldn't that upset every American, that we just allow our country to be worse than those we sanction? What does it say about us?

If not for a handful of people most of the Ukraine threads would be kvetching over clips from video games, three year old footage from other countries, and the manufactured scene sets from the hyperbolic press. They'd believe there was a holocaust happening when in reality the number of civilian deaths hasn't yet hit 4 digits at my last check. It pales in comparison to other events in recent Ukrainian history.

I know the frequency of the threads may be annoying, but with the number of fantasy stories coming at us every day I appreciate there are people trying to counter that. The press and the government want hysteria, which is why they feed it and why we need to counter it.

a reply to: Ksihkehe
Well said.

We started being spoonfed propaganda before the first shot was fired. I'm not so sure either side of this conflict is without blame at this point.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: lostbook

The blank quote is very provocative 🪀

blank quote?

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: vance

Man I'm not sure how all of this will turn out in the end of this conflict, but I am confident that you are going to earn a "Hero of Russia" award. You are not trying to decipher this mess, you are outright supporting Russia.
a reply to: vNex92

Understanding why Russia acted as they did, the full context behind it, and countering the absolute steamrolling that the truth is getting on this website isn't implicitly supporting Russia. It's also not supporting Russia to hold the US and NATO to the same standard they want applied to Russia. It upsets me that my country isn't trying to be better than the standard they're holding Russia to. Shouldn't that upset every American, that we just allow our country to be worse than those we sanction? What does it say about us?

If not for a handful of people most of the Ukraine threads would be kvetching over clips from video games, three year old footage from other countries, and the manufactured scene sets from the hyperbolic press. They'd believe there was a holocaust happening when in reality the number of civilian deaths hasn't yet hit 4 digits at my last check. It pales in comparison to other events in recent Ukrainian history.

I know the frequency of the threads may be annoying, but with the number of fantasy stories coming at us every day I appreciate there are people trying to counter that. The press and the government want hysteria, which is why they feed it and why we need to counter it.

I would think that the current conflict is a continuation of the conflict that started in 2014. The UN puts casualties at 3,393 up until 2021, and a further 879 this year.

originally posted by: lostbook
Hello ATS,

Garland discusses more about Ukraine with a special guest, Ray McGovern, who is a former CIA agent and a Foreign Policy Specialist under 7 Presidents. Garland even plays a clip where Lindsay Graham and John Mc Cain go to Ukraine in 2014 to urge them to attack Russia, and they make the promise that the US will give them the weapons and tech they need to fight Russia.

1000553763328

Interesting!! What says ATS?

podcasts.apple.com...

thanks for the audio, interesting indeed...
especially the closing remarks by the guest ---
the sanctions imposed on Russia were designed to blow-back on the USA, which in turn helps intensifies the actions required to bring about an economic re-set of the USA financial house-of-cards

in true illuminati fashion this 3.11 seed is opposite the 9.11 date of infamy, but equally as dramatic in the long run

anyone else connecting dots out there ?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: vance

Man I'm not sure how all of this will turn out in the end of this conflict, but I am confident that you are going to earn a "Hero of Russia" award. You are not trying to decipher this mess, you are outright supporting Russia.
a reply to: vNex92

Understanding why Russia acted as they did, the full context behind it, and countering the absolute steamrolling that the truth is getting on this website isn't implicitly supporting Russia. It's also not supporting Russia to hold the US and NATO to the same standard they want applied to Russia. It upsets me that my country isn't trying to be better than the standard they're holding Russia to. Shouldn't that upset every American, that we just allow our country to be worse than those we sanction? What does it say about us?

If not for a handful of people most of the Ukraine threads would be kvetching over clips from video games, three year old footage from other countries, and the manufactured scene sets from the hyperbolic press. They'd believe there was a holocaust happening when in reality the number of civilian deaths hasn't yet hit 4 digits at my last check. It pales in comparison to other events in recent Ukrainian history.

I know the frequency of the threads may be annoying, but with the number of fantasy stories coming at us every day I appreciate there are people trying to counter that. The press and the government want hysteria, which is why they feed it and why we need to counter it.

I would think that the current conflict is a continuation of the conflict that started in 2014. The UN puts casualties at 3,393 up until 2021, and a further 879 this year.

LOL.

We're talking about the Russian "invasion", which started in the past couple weeks. I said less than 4 digits and your number for this year is under 4 digits. I don't know if you're trying to suggest I was wrong or what, but I'm not talking about the entire conflict-filled history of Ukraine. We can though.

If we want to go back a decade we can then bring in the West, once you do that the uncomfortable paid training of neonazis has to be mentioned. If you want to go back to the start there are no good guys. The only way this can be viewed in black and white is to completely ignore the facts that contradict your opinion.

Our crowning achievement of a progressive utopia, Chicago, has had more murders than that since 2014.

Another interesting thing that's killed more people in the same time? Lightning. I can't wait for us to sanction Thor for his brutal assault on the people of earth. The Asgardian oligarchs must pay! No Facebook for Asgardians!

The one thing I know 100% is that the more money and influence the US tries to slyly dump in into Ukraine the more Ukrainians are going to die. This is not WWII and this isn't the Holocaust. The US is never going to fully commit. They will spend my tax money, send it there to be divided among their cronies, and the war will continue.

The US doesn't care about it's own citizens, they would incinerate the entirety of Kyiv without a thought if they could get away with it and it profited them. Foreign policy experts have known for years that our hegemony in Ukraine would result in a conflict, they meddled anyway. That's how much they care about Ukraine and "freedom". If all they wanted was to "help" they could send aid, but they want biolabs and weapons in Ukraine even knowing it was going to cause Ukrainian people to die in a conflict.

If I push somebody in front of a speeding car I don't get to complain about how fast the driver was going to absolve myself of guilt. They KNEW this would happen. They don't care about Ukraine.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

Very well said.......