In case of nuclear war

Our only hope in a WWIII would be the aliens' play, catch a nuke.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

More precise would be, since the beginning I’ve watched live cams, Snapchat’s, etc.
(Until they went offline) MSM, and social media are posting 100s of videos and pictures, that are in fact duplicates from other points in time. Reused propaganda, and most of the narrative has been disproven. I am saying whatever the world thinks is going on isn’t. We live in a time, where anything technologically related can be skewed, edited and faked… on a civilian level (not to mention what militaries and governments) .

I was raised to question and prod and poke everything; science and discovery is based on going against whatever the narrative is currently. So when you have every major force in the world (big tech, government, lobbyists, etc) telling you, even punishing you for even an attempt at questioning it, that is when I know to dig deeper.

So simple it has become to alter ones views with only a couple of pictures and so keywords.

They wont use a tsar bomba type of bomb, it even scared the soviet union when they did that test.

plus there is no reason to do a big one like that when you figure in multiple reentry vehicles, which allows you to spread the hate more efficently.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
Major military bases, by major I mean command and control, first strike capabilities, weapon storage areas, hubs for controlling the electrical grid/internet.

Then figure out the prevailing wind patterns in your area are you upwind or downwind from anything like that.

But honestly its the subs that will get everyone, more people will survive a first strike than people think but then some amount of time later the subs will come up to firing depth and finish off the world.

eta: doesnt matter if I am at home I am about 8 miles as the crow flies from a WSA, or I am at work I am toast if the bombs go up, hell I wont even have time to pop the top on a good bottle of scotch most likely considering how absolute #e our civil defense is.

ETA again: google up some of the old cold war maps that are declassified it will give you a decent run down of projected target areas.

grid hubs? that's assuming they're all shielded.

otherwise you just detonate a nuke high enough in the atmosphere and much bigger area gets EMPd into oblivion.

a reply to: SeektoUnderstand

I have no problem with that at all. Sure, they use FAKE things for propaganda purposes all the time. But that doesn’t detract from the unfortunate people being killed in this real war.

Propaganda is always a part of human folly and so is the reality of the suffering it causes.

Two different things. Response and exploitation of the war and the folly itself.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Do you have a non duplicated picture or video? That you can confirm is present day/real time. Showing actual Russians attacking Ukrainians??

I’m not pro Putin, or pro war, etc.

I am pro truth, honesty, and above all! DENY IGNORANCE

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
Since things are getting heated and so many in the world , including here on ats, are pushing for war with russia.
I started thinking.

If putin were to launch at the states where would he be aiming? Are there any maps showing strategic sites that he would want to hit?
Or simulations showing where the radiation would fall?

I'm asking ats to find as much information about what a nuclear battle with russia would actually look like.
This information could maybe save lives if the worst does happen.
At least some of us could run.....

I can tell from your post that you are really frighten.
Try not to live in FEAR.
Step back, take a deep breathe, cut back on the time spent on watching the news.
For your on good and mental health, try not to think on the "What If's"

I know this isn't the advise you are looking to receive, but there are many targets in the US from many Countries, not just Russia.

a reply to: SeektoUnderstand

Sadly, even the most blatant propaganda is being swallowed by a disturbingly large number of otherwise discerning Americans. I know this to be true because I have two such people in my immediate sphere of daily influence and several more beyond my dedicated social orbit.

One of those two routinely disappoints me as she is (or rather, was) vehemently independent of thought and, until 2015 or thereabouts, ingested information from a broad and varied host of sources. After that year, she steadily changed in several respects - some subtle, some more obvious. She also consumed an increasing amount of cable news until eventually this became her only informational source.

Gone, too, is any vestige of discernment. Her opinions have become little more than regurgitated talking points absorbed from MSM as if by some sort of bizarre mammalian osmosis. Any attempts at intellectual discourse are immediately and angrily severed the moment her perspective is remotely challenged.

And again, this is only the most immediate example of multiple to which I am privy. It's both unnerving and... well, as mentioned, it's disappointing. And this infectious pod-person mentality shows no sign of slowing in the foreseeable future, nevermind reversing course. All that remains is the dismal prospect of a gaped-mouth screeching Donald Sutherland stabbing an accusing finger my way because I dared express an independent thought.

Although I did enjoy Kelly's Heroes so there's that...

a reply to: scraedtosleep

You prob want the bomb to fall right on your head, because not sure you want to die a slow death from the radiation.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

Right. Makes since.

If I was truly trying to take out the entire country so they couldn't fight back. I would target their internet, power plants, hospitals, and wherever my spys told me that their leaders were hiding.

Then I would wait and defend against any auto defense systems they have.

So, i guess if we start seeing the worst coming we should run to the mountains in the west.

a reply to: YouSir

At least you would die fast.

That's something. Silver linings and all that.

a reply to: Nickn3

omg! That's amazing.

a reply to: Irishhaf

google up some of the old cold war maps that are declassified it will give you a decent run down of projected target areas.

Great idea. ty

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

100% what I wanted. And um there's like 5 of them right on my area? What is even out here I wonder. I felt like there was nothing but schools out here.

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

So that map makes me wonder if all of canada would be targeted?

Probably not, right? So running north before they launch might work.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I love technology truly.

But I also love nature.

If not for the death I wouldn't mind taking away the worlds tech for awhile.
Might bring us back to our senses.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I have no doubt there are large stretches of northern canada that would not be blasted to nothing.

Here is my question for you, how familiar are you with cold temps?

Do you know how to build shelter to withstand cold temps?

I ask because I currently live about 200 miles from the artic circle, we had more than a few -45 F days, and I am told it was a mild winter, weeks at -20 to -30 F.

I am a moderately tough guy, military put me through survival school, I would last about 3 days max without a real shelter before I would be a popsicle.

There are some things online you can dig for, there are areas its believed that prevailing wind patterns will keep some valleys and such free of significant radiation (in the event of a big exchange), your better bet is to find something like that. If I have time at work tomorrow, I'll try to look up the book I have in storage, guy breaks down some countries mostly states with probable primary and secondary targets, wind pattern breakdowns, laws because you know some of those DC cockroaches will survive (and whatever version in Canada).

Up here its a short growing season and 6+ months of winter, a hungry wolf pack wont hesitate to kill a solo person in this scenario hungry bears come spring, and moose are just ass holes.

Now I don't say all of that to try and push you into giving up, survival instinct is a B, it will push you further and harder than you have ever pushed yourself before. I just dont believe in the fairy and unicorn version of survival its hard, requires a lot of luck, and the ability to lock away that human part of you that will fear for the loved ones that didnt listen to you, because depression will kill you as fast as cold, or a hungry wolf pack.

Well, I'd rather die in the initial blast than endure a nuclear winter in such an event considering I live close to Russia in northern Europe.

And regarding the Tsar Bomba, I've read that the Russians have a 100 mega ton bomb at their disposal, called the poseidon. Sure a test bombing of such calibre likely wouldn't be safe, but in a nuclear war that all goes out the window anyway as a nuclear winter and massive fallout will occur anyway.

Obviously such a massive yield has little military advantages compared to smaller yields, not to mention it's a torpedo which can only hit costal cities, and the numbers are all based on speculation based off of the size of the UUV. Not to mention does it even work as the Russians claims it does?

In the case of a nuclear war, USA have superior intel and would likely be able to decimate most of Russias inter-continental launch sites. Their vast number of tactical nukes wouldn't be of much use in this scenario, but they do have a lot of submarines carrying nuclear torpedos and missiles. Then again their radioactive emissions may be traceable by Americas satelites perhaps?

a reply to: scraedtosleep

No idea what your area is. Like I said in my other post, military installations, critical infrastructure, and more would be on the table. Some things may not make sense until you look at them from a logistics standpoint.

Wars are won and lost by logistics.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Canada would surely be targeted, as they are a key ally to the United States. Also, if ICBMs are coming over from Russia they would be flying over Canada. And ours back at them. I wouldn't want to be under either.

The creation of the atomic bomb was on two levels done by Albert Einstein: theoretically, his E=MC2 memorable equation which was the backbone of the science behind nuclear energy. It basically says mass and energy are interchangeable.

Then in 1939 he and another well-known physicist Leo Szilard, who was the main instigator of the effort, decided to warn President Roosevelt of the serious issue of Germany getting an atomic bomb.

Szilard drafted a confidential letter to the President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, explaining the possibility of nuclear weapons, warning of the German nuclear weapon project, and encouraging the development of a program that could result in their creation. With the help of Wigner and Edward Teller, he approached his old friend and collaborator Einstein in August 1939, and persuaded him to sign the letter, lending his fame to the proposal.[50] The Einstein–Szilárd letter resulted in the establishment of research into nuclear fission by the U.S. government, and ultimately to the creation of the Manhattan Project. Roosevelt gave the letter to his aide, Brigadier General Edwin M. "Pa" Watson with the instruction: "Pa, this requires action!"[51]

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So, the great Einstein was on these important levels--theory and practice--integral to the creation of the atomic bomb.

But the irony is later he regretted it, particularly the erection of the much more lethal and powerful hydrogen bomb.

“He came to regret taking even this step. In an interview with Newsweek magazine, he said that "had I known that the Germans would not succeed in developing an atomic bomb, I would have done nothing."

Another thing most people don’t know is that Germany never got close to making an atomic bomb. And certainly, Japan wasn’t close.

Though we can all assume the cat was out of the bag and it may be that it was best for the US to have been the first to create this monster--the atomic WMD, which now is a firecracker compared to the hydrogen and other forms of this WMD such as the cobalt bomb.