What if it is all theatrics for these reasons

a reply to: LABTECH767

Yes I agree. I’m not sure how much is planned and how much isn’t.

It seems that they have the power and resources to spin nearly any event to their advantage one way or another.

I guess todays word is Jewish..
a reply to: Ksihkehe

a reply to: JAGStorm

Like some kind of sick game, we are given heads up in advance.
For example, this week I’ve heard the song Toxic by Britney Spears multiple times. It really got me wondering why are they playing that so much. The key word Toxic….

Then articles like this.

It's the elevators that worry earthquake engineering expert Keith Porter the most. Scientists say a massive quake could strike the San Francisco Bay Area at any moment. And when it does, the city can expect to be slammed with a force equal to hundreds of atomic bombs.

Key word atomic bombs..

It’s everywhere if you look for it.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Putting yourself in debt makes you a slave of the person or group you are indebted to. The Federal reserve and government hold the deck of cards. The average debt of Americans is now around a hundred fifty grand....and that number does seem to be relevant from what I am seeing around here with a real lot of people.

Many people have investments that lower that overall, but if things go south, your investments are gone but debt is still there.

has anyone read or listened to the Putin speech to the population right before troop movements v Ukraine ?

see: www.msn.com...


are you aware that Russia & China talked-it-over about doing the Ukraine mission after Olympics ended


yes, V Putin laid out his 'case' for action...most which i regret he done and expect to happen to a falsely arranged (according to Putin) Nation called Ukraine

a reply to: nugget1

Sadly that is an undeniable fact but the old Soviet Union were the US dance partner, North Korea I know a man whom was SAS back then had to go into a North Korean camp, waited three day's and night's lying in his own filth and that of the entire North Korean camp in there cess pit for the SOVIET Adviser's to appear and then shot them as per his order's to send a message back to there boss's in the Kremlin.

Same in Vietnam though the US were wrong on that occasion.

But more recently it has been down to short lived criminal decisions by western leaders such as the ill fated invasion of Iraq that led eventually to the awful but preventable outcome of the Terrorist Isis state formation (which HAD to be smashed) which was down to Bush whom was tied financially and socially to the oil industry that wanted there hands on Iraq's oil field's and then the Later (and the US was reticent on this one so you have to blame MY nation or rather the leader of the time Cameron and the French leader as our Two nations said under the table to the US look we helped you in Iraq and you got all the oil there so come on it's our turn we want the oil in Libya) invasion of Libya.

So there is some meat on those bone's but remember that argument goes both ways especially during the Cold War when both superpowers played proxy wars against one another's interests around the world so there is also blood on the former Communist regimes hands.

But not to stray too far I had it from a good source that the invasion of Afghanistan was not about uprooting the Taliban or for the attacks on the twin towers (that may have been something else entirely such as covering up a huge state sponsored fraud and getting rid of both the evidence and the witness when it was found out but that is as yet nothing but a rumour) BUT rather because once again certain OIL interests wanted at that time to OWN a pipeline from a certain former Soviet state that is a major oil producer that would pass through Helmand province and would have given them a huge income off the back of the growing Chinese economy at that time as it would have become the major source of Oil for western China had they been able to pull it off.

And to Ksihkehe

That is interesting, we really don't hear much about that if anything in the west and that is worrying to ME for this reason.

Let's look at some of the crimes committed against people in the West during the cold war by our OWN Government's.

Spraying the people of Southern England with harmful pathogen's to monitor how they spread among the population and gather data for biological warfare purposes.
thewarnings.wordpress.com...
www.independent.co.uk... ng-cold-war-10376411.html

And of course the CIA experiments upon the people of a French town which probably made many of them insane, killed many of them and has left lasting damage to the survivors of this vile experiment (they did it also to there own people in the US no to forget the the infamous Tuskagee experiment's that went on from the 1920's until the 1960's and were as heinous as anything the NAZI's could have dreamed up.
www.history.com...

But most of those were yesterday and this is NOW today.

I hate NAZI's don't get me wrong but the fact's are the fact's bombing civilian areas with cluster bomb's, attacking civilian targets were do you draw the line, I believe both your people's are the same people BUT there is a time you have to let the other person walk away if they want to or else you are holding them prisoner against there will and that is a tyranny then.

All that I want is peace, God will sort the NAZI's out himself (Vengeance is mine saith the Lord).


Also what about the Novichock use by Russian State Hitmen in the UK that killed innocent people here.


So yes there is some truth to your pointing out that all sides are guilty of something.

Sadly though non of that justifies the current shelling of civilians in the Ukraine though I do share Putin's wish to wipe out NAZI's but he is really going about it the very worst and most wrong way.

As well as that the NAZI's are the minority within the Ukraine, if the current JEWISH leader of the Ukraine is a western Stooge then why is he not on a plane to the US or EU, why is he standing his ground beside his soldiers does that strike you as the act of a man with a guilty conscience whom is only in it for his own personal advancement or is that the act of a patriot whom truly loves his nation.

It's a needless and bloody invasion and one that has to stop but remember this the Ukrainians ARE the brothers of the Russians but there is a bit of bad blood between them, after this it will likely be an uncrossable ocean of anger and resentment so Putin's actions have alienated the Ukrainians even the pro Russian Ukrainians and neither they nor the world are going to forget this, look we still remember the invasion of Czechoslovakia during the Cold war with a lot of sorrow that we did not do more to help them, if Russia win's in this we will feel exactly the same even if it is not now about ideology so much as a dominance of a region.

So yes Russia HAS lost the moral high ground.

Though yes the Ukraine should have done more to stop there extreme right wing element from doing the vile thing's they were doing such as hero worshipping mass murderers from WW2.

The fact is that this is really about the Baltic states, Putin want's to regain direct access to them but they are now part of NATO and if he does go in there it WILL no if's and no but's it WILL be WW3, even if he uses his Tsunami Torpedo's to destroy as much of Europe's low lying coast infrastructure as he can before hand it WILL be war.

There was even a prophecy I read somewhere that said exactly that would happen (it never said anything about a weapon but that a great flood from the sea would inundate Denmark, Germany and the Netherlands killing hundreds of thousands and destroying city's but that is exactly what the Tsunami Torpedo is designed to do), Poland though occupied for a time would eventually be the least damaged country and would end up rebuilding Europe and Russia in the aftermath but millions of refugees would flee to the third world were they would become an underclass unwanted by the mainly Islamic nations that they would have fled to and whom would treat them badly.

Prophecy is not given because that is how it will be it is given so that we have a choice to avoid it and change it's outcome, successful prophecy's given by God are those that have been avoided, unsuccessful ones are those that have come true because of mankind's wickedness.

Were do you think we are headed now?.

The cluster bombs in Ukraine?? I've seen bigger fireworks. In the UK the SAS uses similar weapons, I think they are called Flash Bangs. A loud bang, a bright flash and lots of smoke. You look at the videos of supposed cluster bombings. Loud bangs, bright flash, lots of smoke but very, very little damage. That's the videos. Now look at the still photos of the supposed cluster bomb damage, it bear no resemblance.
Could someone answer me this very telling question :- With sanctions against Russia as supposed punishment, Just why hasn't Putin turned off the gas and oil lines?
Please don't say that Putin is making money to pay for his military as the West has stopped paying for them, so why hasn't he turned them off?

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: nugget1

But not to stray too far I had it from a good source that the invasion of Afghanistan was not about uprooting the Taliban or for the attacks on the twin towers (that may have been something else entirely such as covering up a huge state sponsored fraud and getting rid of both the evidence and the witness when it was found out but that is as yet nothing but a rumour) BUT rather because once again certain OIL interests wanted at that time to OWN a pipeline from a certain former Soviet state that is a major oil producer that would pass through Helmand province and would have given them a huge income off the back of the growing Chinese economy at that time as it would have become the major source of Oil for western China had they been able to pull it off.

I have heard about this but do you have a source where we could read about it? Thanks

I feel most stories or actions by government and MSM is just simply sleight of hand. I read France is starting to relax covid restrictions now. I think the war and fighting between Russia and Ukraine is the perfect scapegoat that makes the world forget about all the human rights violations that has been happening the past 2 years. "Putin is sooooooo bad, look what he's doing! What a monster! Oh, and don't worry about the covid restrictions... we beat it!"

It's sofa king insulting how our "leaders" view and manipulate the citizens, yet it's pretty disappointing how many play their game willingly. Virtue signaling, just like the masks.

Just my 2 Lincolns.