Older vulnerable people told they are discriminating if they dont want unvaccinated carers.

Agree 100%. In fact, a study came out that those who are vaccinated and covid positive can have viral loads as bad as any unvaccinated.

Let us take the example of a vaccinated person who has covid 19, yet isn't showing much symptoms, but is allowed to work in a care home or with vulnerable people.

Due to such a policy, covid positive vaccinated workers may be allowed access to the vulnerable due to supposed protection from transmission that simply isn't there yet is the reason for such a policy, thereby causing the transmission of Covid 19.

At my son's school, an unvaccinated child if exposed to Covid 19 must quarantine at home. If a vaccinated child is exposed, they do not have to. So, the latter child can be continuing to engage with school activities yet be spreading it.

These policies make no sense.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Madviking

The most dangerous part of this post is that we're talking about vulnerable people here.

They want only the vaccinated to care for them. With one of the benefits of being vaccinated being a milder case of disease, it effectively means that many people are walking around asymptomatic or at least so mildly symptomatic that they don't even know they're sick, but they could be sick enough to still spread the illness while they seem apparently healthy.

I saw an article about how people in Texas were having trouble telling whether or not they had Pin Fever (allergies) or omigawd.

With an unvaccinated person, you have a better chance they're going to get sick enough they know they're ill and will stay away reducing the chances of outbreak in your vulnerable community as opposed to someone who may only think they have allergies.

As often as I've been exposed, I have to assume I've had it at some point, but I've never knowingly had it. The odds that I naturally fall into the category the press refers to as the "invincibles" or "invulnerables" is pretty small.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Grenade

Probably not that many. That poster isn't the first or last I'm sure. They've been conditioned by the media fear mongering to think COVID is literally that bad.

There was a poll of voters a year or so ago on Covid, and Democrats showed a disturbingly large percentage that believed the hospitalization and death rates from Covid were far higher than it actually is. This can only be attributed to the news and political fear mongering. Many news outlets leaders narrated Covid 19 as if it was a far worse disease.

Libe rals overestimate covid death rate and risk more than others' polled

According to Johns Hopkins University, the COVID-19 case-mortality rate – the percentage of diagnosed patients who have died from the disease – is 1.6% in the United States. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 30% of American Adults correctly estimate the rate as being less than 2%, while 20% believe the rate to be between 2% and 5%. Seventeen percent (17%) estimate the mortality rate to be in the 5%-10% range and 19% believe the rate is more than 10%. Another 14% say they’re not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

More viewers of Newsmax (40%) and Fox News (34%) correctly estimated the COVID-19 mortality rate than viewers of CNN (22%) or MSNBC (24%). Twenty-one percent (21%) of One America News (OAN) viewers correctly estimated the coronavirus mortality rate. Among Americans who say they don’t watch cable news at all, 38% correctly estimated the mortality rate as less than 2%.

Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults believe public health officials are lying about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. That’s up from 32% in early July. Forty-four percent (44%) now don’t believe officials are lying about vaccine safety, but 19% are not sure.

The highest levels of distrust are among those who say they most often watch conservative channels. Sixty-two percent (62%) of Newsmax viewers think public health officials are lying about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, as do 60% of OAN viewers and 49% of Fox News viewers. Only 26% of CNN viewers and 25% of MSNBC viewers believe officials are lying about vaccine safety.

Perhaps because of different choices in news media consumption, Democrats are significantly more likely than other Americans to overestimate the death risk from COVID-19. Twenty-eight percent (28%) of Democrats think more than 10% of people diagnosed with COVID-19 have died from the disease – more than five times the actual mortality rate. Just 14% of Republicans and the unaffiliated believe the COVID-19 mortality rate is over 10%.

This speaks for itself.. This is one reason, but not the only one, that more liberals continue to support draconian policies from lockdowns to vaccine and mask mandates.

I don't care if i am discriminating, i pay for my apartment and care, i can choose what i like, i'm changing care to another agency who will all be vaccinated, no problem!

www.independent.co.uk...

a reply to: AstroStar
Until somebody discriminates against you.....

i can choose what i like

So can everyone else.

originally posted by: AstroStar
I don't care if i am discriminating, i pay for my apartment and care, i can choose what i like, i'm changing care to another agency who will all be vaccinated, no problem!

www.independent.co.uk...

Discrimination is illegal in many cases based on medical status, and your discrimination is based on false information. We have explained to you that vaccinated people can still give you Covid. This is a fact acknowledged by the CDC.

So then, why would you discriminate against people based on Covid vaccination status? Why continue in ignorance and irrational hatred?

a reply to: Madviking

My last post on this, from UK Government, quote below:-
"While the vast majority of NHS, social care and other healthcare staff have been double jabbed, the government is clear those working in health and social care who remain unvaccinated still have a professional responsibility to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and Get Boosted Now."

www.gov.uk...

I have special drugs with lowers my immune system because i have chronic Ankylosing Spondylitis, my daughter has it as well, we both have bamboo spine.
My mother is 94 and has cancer so has very low immune system, i cannot visit her as there is a high step and my wheel chair cannot get through the door, so she visits here, i'm not putting them at risk.
The government don't have a problem with me paying for my care to come from another agency who will only give me vaccinated staff, of which there are many in London.
I don't hate, but i have the right to change my care plan without abuse, it is a matter of choice!

originally posted by: AstroStar
a reply to: Madviking

My last post on this, from UK Government, quote below:-
"While the vast majority of NHS, social care and other healthcare staff have been double jabbed, the government is clear those working in health and social care who remain unvaccinated still have a professional responsibility to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and Get Boosted Now."

www.gov.uk...

I have special drugs with lowers my immune system because i have chronic Ankylosing Spondylitis, my daughter has it as well, we both have bamboo spine.
My mother is 94 and has cancer so has very low immune system, i cannot visit her as there is a high step and my wheel chair cannot get through the door, so she visits here, i'm not putting them at risk.
The government don't have a problem with me paying for my care to come from another agency who will only give me vaccinated staff, of which there are many in London.
I don't hate, but i have the right to change my care plan without abuse, it is a matter of choice!

Vaccinated staff, will NOT be protected from getting infected, nor infecting you with Covid.

In fact, if what I am saying is true, you may be putting yourself in danger from believing that a vaccinate person won't give you covid, and treat them as less dangerous. I say that, respecting your immuno-compromised status.