Russia Ukraine Update Thread

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: vNex92

No. Russia found out they wouldn't get special privileges so they withdrew their application.

Never trust a former KGB man. Never.

Why does everyone keep saying 'former'?

As an organisation The KGB no longer exists..

However i see the point you are making and i totally agree.

Still waiting to see HJ-12 anti tank missiles used in the war. These are devastating to machine gun and sniper nests.

a reply to: wordforword
Turkey will be in breach of an international agreement if it blocks Russia's access to its ports in the Black Sea. Just saying.
If you could back that up (that they have announced such a move), it would be appreciated..... and will bring a heap of trouble and change to the dynamics currently going on.
Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

Technically Russia seems to be the one breaching international laws and agreements by way of there invasion of Ukraine all the same.

They are the ones upsetting the dynamics.

a reply to: andy06shake
Don't mention Iraq..... USA & UK still invaded after they were voted down by NATO.... and you wonder why Putin despises NATO?
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: carewemust

It would have been better/smarter/cleaner to have Zelensky removed/replaced, without all the human suffering.

So......you think this is how emerging democracies should work?

Imagine had our forefather's thought like that.

The human suffering is in part because the people in Ukraine are fighting for their country, their democracy ffs.

A real "patriot" would not think this "better".

a reply to: angelchemuel

Well fictitious WMD and all that jazz.

Aye those two wars were a crap show and window dressing for the masses, thats a given.

Putin has real WMD through that will suck the paint straight off the wall and ruin the day in a whole new way.

As to NATO well that would not exist if Russia did not pose a risk to the rest of the continent that she does.

If in doubt well see the Ukraine mess.

I get where you are coming from all the same we are not exactly innocent ourselves given past history and an empire that put Russia to pale if we are honest.

Oh no! Sanctions on electronic products! Now Russia can’t buy them! They’re doomed.

Except they’re all made in China, so…. Yup, definitely thought that one through.

Real sub-60 IQ decisions coming out of the West.

Russia has "warned" Finland and Sweden of military consequences if they join NATO..

Finland and Sweden have brushed off warnings from neighboring Russia that their possible joining of NATO would trigger “serious military-political consequences” from Moscow for the two countries.

www.msn.com...

After Zelensky tweeted to thank Turkey for closing the Black sea to Russian vessels,Turkey has denied doing so-YET..

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan didn't tell Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in a telephone call that Turkey would close the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits to Russian warships, a senior Turkish official told Middle East Eye on Saturday. "President Erdogan didn't promise to close the straits," the official, who is directly familiar with the call, said. "Turkey hasn't made a decision to close the straits to Russian ships yet."

www.middleeasteye.net...

Also,according to RT(russian state owned) Putin ordered his forces not to fully attack Kiev last night due to the UN resolution being voted on..Now the vote failed(due to russian veto)Putin is re launching the assault on Kiev.

No link for that but it was just mentioned on RT,who said it may be in response to western media claiming the russian assualt on Kiev had failed/become bogged down.

By mentioning this,I am not agreeing with RT(I find it hard to believe any source at this time) but its worth looking at the messages coming out from the russian state as they are attempting to paint a very different pictre of events-though the picture does NOT correspond with what we see on the ground in Ukraine. IMO

originally posted by: Ohanka
Oh no! Sanctions on electronic products! Now Russia can’t buy them! They’re doomed.

Except they’re all made in China, so…. Yup, definitely thought that one through.

Real sub-60 IQ decisions coming out of the West.

U.S. chip heavyweights include Nvidia, Intel, AMD and GlobalFoundries, while European chipmakers include the likes of Infineon and STMicro. There’s also TSMC and Samsung in Taiwan and South Korea respectively. If Russia was unable to use products made by these companies, it may be forced to turn to Chinese chipmakers like SMIC, whose semiconductors lag behind the most advanced chips in the world.

If one is in the IT industry, they already know how devestating this could be for Russia....and they know it too

They are showing the public how to make Petrol Bombs with Styrofoam ffs and handing out machine guns.

Putin should take a look at what happened to us with the likes of Northern Ireland turn his troops around and go back home.

The people are willing to fight, and by the looks of things, Russian troops are going to get more than just there fingers burned.

a reply to: alphabetaone
Very good point-I have been saying for a while one major step Taiwan could take to lessen the risk of a chinese takeover would be to off shore its semiconductor industry.(A huge task I know)

China sees those chip factories as a very high priority prize,because if they can keep those chips away from enemy nations,those nations will find it much more difficult to update their fighting tech(and all tech,as the current chip shortage is proving).

a reply to: andy06shake

Lot of civilians will be killed and many won't be actively resisting.

Putin will remembered in history, but the not way he wanted to be.

Cheers

originally posted by: andy06shake
They are showing the public how to make Petrol Bombs with Styrofoam

That is Napalm.

Of course they didn't say as much on the Sky news piece I saw-but that is how to make napalm.
Dozens of Ukrainian Grandmas,sitting in the park manufacturing napalm.

What a world we live in.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Nailed it there F2d5thCavv2.

History seldom remembers tyrants the way they wish to be i suppose.

a reply to: angelchemuel



While Russian sources state they have no info about any sanctions, this doesn't mean there will be none.
It can be a bluff. It can be a failed promise. It can be that Putin threatened Turkey enough to abandon any such ideas . Or it can be a pure hope of Ukrainians seeking for all the help they can get.

It's amazing how many people look at the countries and talk about them as some chess pieces. They don't see a simple living being behind all this mess who possibly lost all the hard earned possessions, their home, their income. You have just one life to live. PEOPLE ARE DYING. On both sides! For no reason!!! There can be NO justification for any of this.

a reply to: alphabetaone

Russia makes its own chips and PCs. They invested in those after 2014 when the west put sanctions on Russia.

Looks like China doesn't want anything to do with sanctions .


"Chinese banks limit financing for Russian purchases – media"


RT

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Turkey today appeared to be shutting the door on Ukraine’s request to block Russian ship moves in the Bosphorus and other parts of the Turkish Straits on Friday.

Even if Turkey decided to invoke the relevant clauses in the Montreux treaty, the international instrument that governs ship traffic through the Straits, Russian warships would have the right to pass the Bosphorus once, on a final one-way voyage back to their Black Sea bases, Turkey’s foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told reporters on Friday.

At the moment it isn’t even clear if the conflict in Ukraine formally qualifies as a war that would allow Turkey to take such a step and Turkish legal experts are currently pouring over the matter, wire reports cited the foreign minister as saying.

Link
Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I know that mate.

It will be coffee jar nail bombs next.

It will be like Afghanistan for them all over again should they be silly enough to push hard enough to gain a real foothold.

What a world indeed.

History repeating i suppose after all we have a penchant for such.