So what, Jesus may have walked on water, but could he have....

Jesus is a metaphor for the sun. he never existed. All his miracles could be attributed to things the sun does.
healing the sick
walking on water
feeding the masses with 2 fish (pisces)
rising every day
dying on the solstice coming back to life 3 days later
turning water into wine
the light of the world
the savior of darkness

All things the Sun of God does (since no one can own it, it is considered gods sun)

Dynamo Jack though this is a real person.

a reply to: dontneedaname

They all had just one chi.

But, if you put a lot of of them together, you get cheese.

And that's powerful!

a reply to: dontneedaname

Go back and read the accounts of the Temptation in the Gospels.

a reply to: dontneedaname

Appreciate the post and will probably go back and watch a few of the videos but as a former martial arts school owner, I can tell you the cutting of the brick is pure bunk. There are a ton of fake martial arts masters.

In fact, a number of serious/professional martial art school owners here formed a group called the “Texas Black Belt Commission’ The problem wasn’t as much the magicians doing stage acts as it was 1st degree or lower getting on the boat arriving here a 7th degree master. Go to YouTube and see how the “death touch” masters do in real fights. Hint: their record is around 0 in 200.

Denny

a reply to: booyakasha

Nope, not a chance buddy, try again. How about a source? ( Besides you’re imagination that is ). Let’s break your statements down a little.

1: healing the sick. Can the sun heal leprosy? Or raise the dead?
2: sun shines, it doesn’t walk anywhere
3: feeding the masses with 2 fish Pisces, what does a constellation have to do with our sun? I’ll guarantee the sun can’t feed a mass of people a meal from 2 fish in a one day period. Also you forgot the loafs of bread
4: rising every day, everyone on this planet does that, what’s you’re point
5: the sun doesn’t die on the solstice you wouldn’t be here if it did
6: turning water into wine, nope steam maybe but not wine
7: the light of the world, yep that’s right, so is the moon. how do you account for that
8: the savior of darkness, that’s a stretch, Jesus is the savior of mankind

You are coming off as a troll

originally posted by: Topcraft
How many you tube videos are out there with “ sleight of hands “ artists ( magicians ), that do seemingly impossible things right before your eyes? I’m sure this guy is selling some program for $99.99 that will teach you how to follow in his footsteps. Funny how these guys can never perform in a controlled setting. Yes some people have total recall, yes some people are absolute mathematical geniuses this is easily proven. Strip that dude down to his shorts and let me supply the paper and the brick, and the chi will miraculously stop working for some reason or other. Nice tricks, but at the same time total BS. Just seems to prove that some people will believe anything. ps: you’re title is a bit offensive for Christmas Day

Well..considering Dec.25th is a PAGAN day and not the true Birthday of Jesus....you have some research to do.

so many naysayers...didn't even bother addressing the other videos.Let's just say your right about video #1...what about the rest?

Being a little selective.

But this is what we call TOO MUCH PRIDE...even in the face of undeniable evidence that there is something going on.

That's why there is a mass culling ahead. A mass humbling. I will shed no tears.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: dontneedaname
Let’s see, Jesus raised the dead, rose from the dead, created the Universe…cutting bricks 🧱??? Not even in the shadow of the same league.

Eta: I trained with Masters Yu Shao Wen and Gao Jia Min, who in turn trained under Grand Master Chen of the Chen style dynasty. I do agree that they perform outright miraculous maneuvers well worth the applause.👍🏼

Perhaps a poor comparison

You are being sarcastic? But if not...or for others...

Created the Universe? hahahaha.


Did Jesus really rise from the dead? Did he really raise the dead? What is literal, what is metaphor? What is just a vapor text in a book?

Well..some people in Iran think the Mahdi will rise out of a well. Or something like that. Who am I to say it won't happen.

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be careful with your beLIE-fs.

Ever heard of BAAL?

sometimes known as BeLIAR / Belial.

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Better to KNOW then beLIEve. Beliefs are rooted in FAITH. And faith - is well....like hope. Maybe true, maybe not.

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aGNOStic. GNOstic - KNOWledge.

GNOsticism....few Christians seem to know the history of their own religion.

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better to not KNOW anything, because you could always be wrong. But you can't say it....you have TO BE it.

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an idiot eager to learn can go farther then a man with many degrees, titles, accolades, or awards. For the weight of pride from each will hold that man down.


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Say -- what's the EXACT meaning of Jesus' name? Does no one know the answer to such a simple question?
I've never met a Christian who knew.

Christmas Unwrapped - History Channel 1997 - insights into December 25th...

a reply to: dontneedaname

You’re right about that one, we only celebrate his birth on the 25 of December, and it was a time of pagan worship before things were brought together under Constantine. Easter was also a pagan holiday. This was changed because there were many pagans coming into the church, so they used their days of worship that were all ready in place and that they were used to. It really doesn’t matter about the dates, it’s about getting all the new Catholics on the same page. I don’t need to research any of that, it was pretty much drilled into my head my whole life.

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: booyakasha

Nope, not a chance buddy, try again. How about a source? ( Besides you’re imagination that is ). Let’s break your statements down a little.

1: healing the sick. Can the sun heal leprosy? Or raise the dead?
2: sun shines, it doesn’t walk anywhere
3: feeding the masses with 2 fish Pisces, what does a constellation have to do with our sun? I’ll guarantee the sun can’t feed a mass of people a meal from 2 fish in a one day period. Also you forgot the loafs of bread
4: rising every day, everyone on this planet does that, what’s you’re point
5: the sun doesn’t die on the solstice you wouldn’t be here if it did
6: turning water into wine, nope steam maybe but not wine
7: the light of the world, yep that’s right, so is the moon. how do you account for that
8: the savior of darkness, that’s a stretch, Jesus is the savior of mankind

You are coming off as a troll

so you take everything literally? Here's a quote from the supposed Sun God. "blessed are those with eyes to see and ears to hear. The kingdom of heaven is theirs"

All the characters in the bible are based off ancient astrology.



deny ignorance.

a reply to: dontneedaname

He can separate your soul from your body in less that a millisecond. Let's see an of those guys do that.

Fear him who can not just kill the body but cast both the body and the soul into hell.

a reply to: Topcraft

Greek A= NO and gnostic means knowledge so the compound word means NO Knowledge, the Latin Equivalent is Ignoramus.

a reply to: booyakasha

So tell me, what exactly is the point of your anti Christian/anti Catholic rant? A little jealous that people find comfort and clarity in their lives thru the Bible? Perhaps that’s something you lack in your life. What can you possibly gain by attacking a deity that has been beloved by billions of people thru time. Does that make you feel superior?

We are taught that God has given all of us free will. It’s not required that you believe in him, that my friend is a choice that’s up to you. You either get it or you don’t. It’s obvious you don’t. No ones trying to covert you. And yes we believe that God created the universe. Most people believe the Big Bang theory, for the most part that’s what I believe. Science does not have an answer to what caused that Big Bang. I believe we know what caused it. You can’t rationally explain how the entire universe was formed from nothing unless you plug God in that equation. If you can explain it please do so.

The quote you mention makes absolute sense, if you’re blind to the proof that is abundantly displayed around you, and won’t listen to Gods word, well, I guess he won’t have anything to do with you. Once again, the choice is yours to make. Accept him, and he will make himself known to you.

Astrology has been around a long time and it was well known to the ancient people. Is it so far fetched that they would use it to try to explain something that they were having a hard time explaining or understanding? We are still trying to understand, you are trying to disprove. Good luck!

No I don’t take everything literally. We are talking about a book that was compiled from many sources that were written by ancient peoples. The most compelling were first person accounts, they were trying to explain things that were well understood at the time but now it’s hard to understand the exact context of what they were trying to say. They did the best they could, and we do our best to understand.

Did you ever believe? Because it sounds like there is somewhat of a resentment going on here. Maybe didn’t perform for when you asked for something important to you?

i was raised Catholic.
It wasn't hard for me to see the connections between astrology, the precession of the equinox, and the stories in the bible.
You worship Jesus on Sun day for a reason. Once your mind is trapped though it's hard for most people to look beyond the veil.
it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned.

The words attributed to the sun god, " by their fruits you shall know them"

what do you see come from christianity? division. war. genocide. poverty. ignorance. child trafficking. power. control. corruption.

The people following the religion are convinced to sit on their ass and pray to god for change while their leaders who are actually satanists put their friends in power and keep the masses feeding their corruption in ignorance.

It's also very easy to see that all these monotheistic religions are compilations of the ancient rituals of fertility cults, psychedelic cults, death cults, sun worship, moon worship, saturn worship, etc.

I gain nothing from bringing light to ignorance but if one person reads this and escapes the fear trap the church keeps your mind in and takes control of their own consciousness and the immense power behind it, it is worth it to me.
Jesus said "i am the way the truth and light."
I don't mean to offend anyone. Just helping people find the truth.

Or did you want Barrabas? You don't even realize you are denying Jesus ,the truth, by believing in his literal existence.

In 2 Corinthians 13:5, the apostle Paul asks the Corinthian believers a question: “Or do you not realize about yourselves that Jesus Christ is in you?”

he is referring to a state of consciousness attainable through mediation and conscious energy manipulation which is demonstrated in the video of John Chang i posted.

The light (christ consciousness) is within you. You just have to know how to access it.

a reply to: booyakasha

Well, you were shown the truth and you rejected it, your choice to make,That’s on you. And yes we worship on Sunday. Early Christians worshipped on the sabbath which is Saturday. As I tried to explain before, the days were changed to accommodate the droves of pagans who were coming into the church at that time. Early Christians and later Catholics never worshiped a sun god ever. They worshipped the Father thru his Son. Boy, you really didn’t pay attention in Sunday school did you. Maybe that’s the problem here. I do love it how you try to justify you’re disbelief with quotes from a book you don’t believe in.

So, you are welcome to worship John Chang, start you’re own religion with him at the center, and you as his prophet if you wish.You have been given the free will to do that. No one will stop you, but I’m afraid you will never ever be able to convince the Billions that have been touched by the one true God thru his son since the birth of Jesus Christ over 2,000 years ago.

When you have spent the last day of your life, it will be made clear to you. My hope for you is that you come to your senses before then, because at that point it’s too late to change your mind. I will pray for you to find your way, and wish you peace and happiness in your life, the rest is up to you. It can’t be easy carrying around all that baggage, maybe it’s time for you to lay it down. You will feel much better if you do.

i dont need a child molester to tell me about god. i can experience god through mediation and psychedelics.
I don't need to worship anyone.
No one should be worshipping anything. That is my point. You are giving away your own power.

religion is people describing "God" to you through symbolism.

meditation and psychedelics make you experience God.
early christianity was a psychedelic cult. they ripped anything actually spiritual from it a long time ago.

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: booyakasha

So tell me, what exactly is the point of your anti Christian/anti Catholic rant?

Did you ever believe? Because it sounds like there is somewhat of a resentment going on here.

This website certainly can be a bit fickle. Spent 20 minutes pecking away on my iPad only to have it all erased because I accidently touched something. Ok........ we will to the ol PC where I don't have to peck.

Was raised Southern Baptist but just couldn't bit into the BS. Really, ancient man built a tower to heaven n pissed off god so he punished them creating languages to disband them and destroyed the tower so now we have no traces of it? OK! God took back the 10 commandments so we have no trace of them? So why do they all appear in the Book of the Dead that was written centuries earlier? And examples still exist today. The flood? Written prior in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Copied almost verbatim.

Live n let live. If that floats your boat, go for it.

However, that all changed when we traveled Mexico and South America hiring guides to lean culture and history from an indigenous prospective. The catholic church used the Spanish army to literally rape, murder in hideous ways, rob, and destroy any remnant of indigenous culture that could oppose Christianity. The Catholics aren't angles from heaven nor innocent choir boys.

What I saw and leaned, example: Outside Cusco Peru stands a church that has to be over 12,000 feet in elevation. Just so you know, Incas were the ruling class and Peruvians were.... Peruvians. The church stands on the site where a former local Inca ruler lived. He would not convert, so........ They killed him, killed his family, killed his slaves, enslaved the local people to build the church we saw out of his destroyed house. Nice!

Doesn't stop there. The pyramids of the sun and moon were discovered in the early 1900's. My pragmatic question is: How in the hell do you lose a pyramid? Easy Answer: You don't. The site was buried to keep the Catholics/Spanish from destroying it. Same for Machu Pichu, It was kept secret so it too would not have been destroyed.

Another question: where did the treasure from Spanish shipwrecks come from? Another easy answer. It was stolen. The people of Mexico and South America were not poor people. They were robbed of their countries wealth.

Why pick on the poor Catholics and Christianity? They deserve every bit.

Denny

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: booyakasha

Well, you were shown the truth and you rejected it, your choice to make,That’s on you. And yes we worship on Sunday.

What truth? Faith is truth? You do realize the person who walked on water, fed thousands from 3 fish, and cured the sick. Had zero tax records, nor birth records by the Italians. Who btw, we’re damn good at collecting money n kept meticulous records. Also, there are zero contemporary writings sighting any of his miracles. The first written record of “Jesus” was 80 years after his supposed death and that was a single sentence.

Show me the truth! Love to see it. Inquiring minds.

Denny

a reply to: DaCook

Ahh, I think maybe I can understand what you’re getting at. Let me explain. What you are talking about is the Roman Catholic Church, the Pope the Vatican the Bishops and priests. Although many are dedicated and reverent. That’s not what I am representing. I’m representing the People of the Catholic Church, the “ flock “ in other words. Child molesters? It’s OUR children that were and are being molested. WE are the ones who demand justice. I firmly believe in my heart that Emperor Constantine set up the Roman Catholic Church as a control mechanism. Compiling the Bible from 10’s of thousands of ancient documents, therefore setting up the church as the sole authority in the translation and interpretation of the spiritual meaning of those documents.

The fact of the matter is that they unwittingly spread The word of God along with their control. All though history it spread, Pope after Pope as they controlled more and more country’s thru time, Atrocity after Atrocity. Using the fear of god, fire and brimstone and especially Hell lots and lots of Hell. The only Bibles were in the hands of the clergy, if any of the flock were found in possession they were punished with execution. I’m sure there were many that caught on to what was going on and were against it. Penalty for heresy was death. More and more caught on as time rolled on.

Now to the present. I feel that I am a spiritual descendent of those early Christians and the Catholic worshipers who were the common man, the one’s that the original message was meant for. A message of hope, love, charity and brotherhood. The Catholic church to me are those people, not what you talk about. We abhor the type of behavior you’re talking about, and call it out to the world if we find it. It’s always been like that. We are not the Vatican, or the Spanish Inquisition, or a cathedral. We are the people of the Trinity, we are the Catholic Church, and we are a multitude worldwide. So believe me, I’m proud to be a Catholic. Your words don’t anger me. I’ve heard it all before. We all have.

a reply to: DaCook

If you’re looking for that undeniable truth, I’m not the one you should be asking. That’s between you and God. After all, you don’t seem open to anything I have to say. If really want it and you are sincere and respectful, and ask in the right way. Eventually you will get that truth, I did, And when it comes to you I guarantee that you will have no doubt. It’s an overwhelming experience that is difficult to explain, the only way is to go thu it.

So inquiring mind. If you want the truth you have to work a little for it. It can come really fast for some people, others it may take time. But it will change you’re life when it happens, in an instant. So there you have it, a simple blueprint. It’s not that difficult. I hope you work it all out.You will benefit greatly.

PS. I’m sorry, I forgot something. My question to you is this: how many people in the USA, or any country for that matter, have no documented birth death or tax records ? We in the modern age keep meticulous records also, yet guess what, there are millions of people living here that we will never know who they were or if they existed. Maybe someone will find a obscure record of theirs 80 years from now. I’m sorry, your argument just doesn’t hold up. We do have a really cool book that explains it all if your interested, it’s called the Bible.