NWO rewriting the Bible.

a reply to: combatmaster

No, I know you won’t list any examples
Rhetoric, lies and confirmation bias

Nothing new under the sun

a reply to: Raggedyman

Are you serious?


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First of all, a little background on the KJV. King James assembled 47 scholars to create the KJV, but all were members of the Church of England. Not one single Jewish scholar was used to translate the JEWISH SCRIPTURES. So of course errors in translation would occur, the translators changed passages to make them messianic or prophetic, when they had no such meaning in the original Hebrew. Also King James instructed the translators to make sure the KJV reinforced his opposition to Puritanism, and to reinforce his notion of the divine right of Kings. So basically he changed a religious document into a political one. On to the errors. Obviously the first one would be Isaiah 7:14 Again, a little background. King Ahaz of Judah was being threatened by two opposing armies, which were threatening his kingdom, which included Jerusalem. G-d sent Isaiah and his pregnant wife to King Ahaz to reassure him this wouldn't happen. Isaiah told King Ahaz to ask G-d for a sign that the two armies facing him would be defeated, but Ahaz declined. Isaiah said G-d would give him a sign anyway. The sign would be that a young woman would bear a child, and before that child was old enough to tell good from evil, the two armies facing him would be destroyed. Which is exactly what happened. The Hebrew word here is "Almah" and it does NOT mean "virgin." Another error. In Psalm 22:16, the KJV has the phrase "pierced hands and feet". The Hebrew is "Ka-ari" and it means "like a lion." It was changed to make it a messianic prophecy. In fact, the exact same word is used 4 verses ahead of this, in Psalm 22:13. Here and everywhere else EXCEPT 22:16 ari is translated as "lion." It's another fake messianic prophecy. And while we're in Psalms, here's another error. Psalm 2:12 in the KJV says "kiss the Son". The Hebrew here is "Neshku-bar" and it ACTUALLY means "Arm yourself with purity." Again, it was changed to make something into a prophecy that wasn't even a prophecy to begin with. A fourth error In Isaiah 9:6, the KJV has this; "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty G-d, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah here was talking about someone who had already been born. The KJV writers changed this from past tense, to present and future tense. Again, to make it messianic. You might ask if this wasn't about Jesus, then who WAS it about? The answer is actually right there in the passage "The Mighty G-d" in Hebrew is "Hezekiah"

You couldve easily checked yourself! Rhetoric lies and confirmation bias??? Learn hebrew and then tell me im lying!

a reply to: combatmaster

So, one bible out of how many?
One bible and you chose that
Thing is CM, we can still read the Dead Sea scrolls in their original language
Plenty of errors in many bibles, maybe some deliberate but
Dead Sea scrolls exist

a reply to: chr0naut

Depends on the demographics, what the vaccinated want to with a bunch of diseased, or infected animals right?

Look up Democracy/Demogogery, and you will see the beast, an all it lasting glory.

a reply to: Raggedyman

There is only one Torah.... dead sea scrolls prove it has not been altered, not vice versa!

originally posted by: Proto88
a reply to: chr0naut

Depends on the demographics, what the vaccinated want to with a bunch of diseased, or infected animals right?

Look up Democracy/Demogogery, and you will see the beast, an all it lasting glory.

No, the meaning of what is actually written in the text of Revelation 13:16-18 has nothing to do with demographics, nor does it have anything to do with vaccines.

To apply those things, as if they were relevant, would be adding or subtracting from the direct meaning of the text. Something we were clearly warned against doing in Revelation 22:18-19.

a reply to: combatmaster

You are right of course CM, the DSS prove the Torah is pretty good
Yes you are right, they prove corruption in the KJV
But overall, the evidence, the mistakes, still pretty good

I guess my issue is you saying “christianity “when many Christians uphold that the Torah should be kept as reliable and sincere as it was written

a reply to: chr0naut

yes, you are right, Torah and scrolls are a safe reference for that content.

unfortunately most of the world population do not look, understand, or know about it.

so, people access modern media, in their language or internet.

and that has been manipulated.

in the same way that the content in the news media.

there is a difference between changes for evolution of language and times, and changes done because they are part of an strategic plan.

people with faith do not need the vaccines.
people with faith do not accept that false vaccines.

now are the times between symbol replacement, those replacements are done across generations.


SOME CHANGES:

1) GOD .

Deeply changes from a God who can create from nothing, ceatio ex nihilo, to a new god who only creates from existing things.

The preexisting God is not longer the one adored, worshiped.
In ancient times, the importance of the preexisting God was so important for the souls to cross to the other side according to egyptian and gnostic traditions.

It is being teached that the creator of the mankind will not be the true God
because any god that creates only from existing thing is not the preexisting god (the real god), then it is an idol. ...commanments say: to have no other idols.

that change was announced time ago to introduce the false god.


"Satan is Freemasonry's architect and he is not capable of creating anything. He counterfeits and corrupts what God has made."


the mind of the people has been conditioned, trained, to accept those small changes, each one is a step closer to the precipice, the same happened during the past worldwide wars.


2) Book of Revelations:

There were a time when the "book of revelation" were named "book of revelations", because the content were a lot of revelations in form of prophecies.

but then, the changes on purpose arrived, and now people believes that it is revelation (in singular) as the return of the god.

but this change was announced almost a century ago, in order to replace that coming of god for the new god.
people dont realize it.


3) Difference between HOPE AND FAITH

people dont realize the deep difference between faith and hope.

HOPE
Hope goes to material things or events, for example: hope that the team wins 14-7.
Hope: there is uncertainty, the event could hapen or not.
people Hopes that the vaccines helps them.
with hope, the source is set outside of you.
Hope: according to othodox patriarchs, hope was the last evil remaining in the Pandora's box. (that is why there was no problem that the hope remained in the box)

FAITH

Faith is the certainty of the things that are going to hapen, even if those are not seen now.
Faith is related to God.
Faith do not reside in others.
Faith resides in you.


most of the people, are following the new versions of the bible now, in the same way that they follow the news:
they accept the things they are told to believe and accept.

People without faith accept the vaccines.


4) *** THE RELIGION IS REPLACED by a DARK RELIGION. ***

Someones know that the knowledge is power, and are creating a dark era in it.

The dark ones:
The terms inserted in the bible included are the same ones used for the occult religions, so people started idolizing the god of the dark religion.

Examples that show how the Bible is being changed into a dark religion:

THIS IS HOW THE NEW BIBLE BECOMES PART OF ANOTHER RELIGION:

1) New creator

The concept of God creator able to create from nothing is replaced.
Satan is Freemasonry's architect and he is not capable of creating anything. He counterfeits and corrupts what God has made.

2) Sons of light:

The King James Bible says that Christians are children of light.
the term have been replaced for sons of light
Freemasons, Theosophists, Kabbalists and Gnostics are the ones who call themselves "sons of light/sons of Light."
"childs of light were replaced for "sons of light"

3) kingdom of light:

Masonic "sons of light" work to further the "kingdom of light".
Many modern Bible versions change saints in light to "kingdom of light."
Albert Mackey's Enclyclopedia of Freemasonry and its Kindred Sciences mentions the "kingdom of light":

". . . Manes, the founder of the sect of Manichees, who describes God the Father as ruling over the kingdom of light and contending with the powers of darkness."


4) Satan tests Jesus in the Desert

Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of4b the devil. Matthew 4:1
DEFINED King James Bible footnote: 4b tested, tried by
introducing the idea that the one that can test Jesus is Satan.

"When God tempts a person, he tests or proves him.

When Satan tempts a person, he entices him to to disobey God, often with the promise of reward.

The Bible For Today blasphemed the Lord Jesus Christ by having their DEFINED King James Bible (via footnotes (4b, 1c and 2b) falsely teach that Satan tested Jesus!

They are presenting the reader with the Luciferian notion that Satan was in a position of authority over the Lord Jesus Christ —that he was in a position of authority to qualify or approve him."


5) Pray defined as beg, implore, beseech.

Pray defined as "ask" (in reference to God) has a positive emotional connotation
Pray defined as "beg" (in reference to God) has a negative emotional connotation

D. A. Waite, Jr., author of The DEFINED King James Bible, defined the common word, "pray" in such a way as to cause you to believe that a Christian's relationship to his or her Heavenly Father is that of a beggar.
D.A. Waite Jr. defined the word, "pray" in every context, as "beg, implore, beseech."

Beggars have no right to receive anything.

Jesus used the word, "ask" and taught his disciples to expect an answer:

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." Matthew 7:7,9

Beg is NOT the meaning of pray.

The basic definition of the word pray is to ask.

...among other lot of changes, like the "Holiness" is removed from God´s definition in religions.


In conclusion

Changes in the Bibles, shows a dark religion inserted in the Bible.

One have to recognize their perseverancy and efectiveness:

They have the goal, the generational timing and resouces,
they did replacements in key concepts (some replacements in progress),
used the changes in their advantage of their plan,
also they inserted their God and their religion in the New Bibles
which are used, learned and teached to most of the population,
that people dont realize the changes.


They are very efficient.

That is the power of small, gradual changes


some examples

originally posted by: lux666
a reply to: chr0naut

yes, you are right, Torah and scrolls are a safe reference for that content.

unfortunately most of the world population do not look, understand, or know about it.

so, people access modern media, in their language or internet.

and that has been manipulated.

in the same way that the content in the news media.

there is a difference between changes for evolution of language and times, and changes done because they are part of an strategic plan.

people with faith do not need the vaccines.
people with faith do not accept that false vaccines.

People with faith still die of diseases. Vaccination is one way to fight disease. So, being pragmatic, people with faith need vaccines, just as much as anyone else.

The scriptures also have no prohibition at all against vaccines. If God wanted us to avoid parts of modern medicines, He is omniscient enough to have included a warning - but there is none.

Similarly, the concept of a "false vaccine" (as if the definition of a word was somehow pertinent in fighting disease), is a nonsense. There are several different types of vaccines; there are ones which are just chemicals, there are ones which are just toxins that a bacteria produces, there are ones which are inactivated pathogens, there are ones which are active pathogens of a controllable or non-lethal type, there are ones using hormones, there are ones that use parts of a whole pathogen (of which mRNA vaccines are a sub-type). In summary, there is no such thing as a "true" vaccine or a "false" vaccine. Anything effective as a vaccinating agent is a vaccine.

now are the times between symbol replacement, those replacements are done across generations.

SOME CHANGES:

1) GOD .

Deeply changes from a God who can create from nothing, ceatio ex nihilo, to a new god who only creates from existing things.

The preexisting God is not longer the one adored, worshiped.
In ancient times, the importance of the preexisting God was so important for the souls to cross to the other side according to egyptian and gnostic traditions.

It is being teached that the creator of the mankind will not be the true God
because any god that creates only from existing thing is not the preexisting god (the real god), then it is an idol. ...commanments say: to have no other idols.

that change was announced time ago to introduce the false god.

The Bible in its original text had several names and descriptions for God. In all the earliest English translations, those name of God, which had specific meanings all got rendered down to either "God" or "Lord":

Eloihm, El Shaddai, El Elyon, El Olam, YHWH, YHWH Yireh, YHWH Nissi, YHWH Shalom, YHWH Sabbaoth, YHWH Maccaddeshcem, YHWH Ro’i, YHWH Tsidkenu, YHWH Shammah, YHWH Elohim Israel, Adonai, Theos, Kurios, Despotes, and Father (Abba) all rendered down to something generic, and due to the input of Germanic Masoretic Jews, that was even further corrupted to 'Jehovah' and made more indistinct.

"Satan is Freemasonry's architect and he is not capable of creating anything. He counterfeits and corrupts what God has made."

Freemasonry is a modern cult. We were talking about the Biblical. They have nothing to do with that.

the mind of the people has been conditioned, trained, to accept those small changes, each one is a step closer to the precipice, the same happened during the past worldwide wars.

2) Book of Revelations:

There were a time when the "book of revelation" were named "book of revelations", because the content were a lot of revelations in form of prophecies.

but then, the changes on purpose arrived, and now people believes that it is revelation (in singular) as the return of the god.

but this change was announced almost a century ago, in order to replace that coming of god for the new god.
people dont realize it.

The book was named after first part of its first sentence: "The Revelation of Jesus Christ".

It's name has been abbreviated to "Revelation" in many modern translations but it has also been called the "Apocalypse of John", the "Revelation to John", or the "Revelation from Jesus Christ".

It was never officially called "Revelations". No English Bible has ever recorded it as "Revelations". Here is a link to an image of the first page of the book in the original 1611 King James Version.

There are thousands of translations of the bible, each with different phrases and words to each other.

There are also different versions of the bible which omit or include entire books.

For those reasons I see no sinister motive behind the variation in the OP. Just another translation to add to the pile.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: combatmaster

You are right of course CM, the DSS prove the Torah is pretty good
Yes you are right, they prove corruption in the KJV
But overall, the evidence, the mistakes, still pretty good

I guess my issue is you saying “christianity “when many Christians uphold that the Torah should be kept as reliable and sincere as it was written

I appreciate the clarification... it is a rare occurrence on ATS. Yes you are right, my mistake, my words/terminology are not accurate sometimes.

Just to clarify myself, I do not have anything against Christianity or Catholicism or any other religion. In fact i respect any persons devotion to faith and values of a higher degree, because being consumed by reason 100% of the time is dangerous (as the last century has shown us).

I just have a bad habit of not being able to resist pointing out sometimes overlooked historical lessons.


ETA: btw, what mistakes are you referring to?

a reply to: chr0naut

Oh that image...yea, pretty sure everyone seen that image. Same image my grandma, or ma's would slap the # out of me, if picked my ear or nose, cause he watched me do it.

While he just hang there, and suffering.

What about the Woman that sits over many waters( or people as it often iterated) that eventually replaces the second, and rides the crap out of the first? Democracy was viewed as feminine, to some b.c Greek philosophers.

And, I don't think Democracy works to well with God Covenant ether, FYI. Free will an what not.

At the end of the day it's meaningless, since regardless
of how it's written the majority of literal interpretation
Bible believing Christians will never follow the teachings
and example of Christ.

Nothing is more despicable than someone who claims
Biblical understanding yet seeks to kill their enemies.

An illustration to demonstrate delusion..

A righteous American man spends his life serving Christ.

A righteous German man spends his life serving Christ.

Both men are called to Military service.
Both men vow to defend their nation against
enemies foreign and domestic.

Both men find themselves on the front lines
trying to kill each other.

This small narrative details the offensive History of
literal interpretation Biblical fundamentalist.

Both of these men had to reject at least
two of Christ commandments to shoot
at each other.

Both of them will bleed out expecting
Heaven as their reward.

2 Thessalonians 2:11

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a reply to: combatmaster

Well the mistakes you pointed out are easily enough reiterated at least
I don’t believe the bible is inerrant, I believe Jesus is

I am happy to overlook a few errors, think the whole is pretty clear

I do understand the ops issues and am weary of the ongoing concerns shown by what was pointed out in the opening post

a reply to: lux666

Satan did tempt Jesus
Satan is the god of this earth
Adam and Eve gave the earth away when they chose to sin
Jesus Came and offered individuals a way out, His kingdom, redemption
Jesus kingdom came individually to those who accept Him

originally posted by: lux666
a reply to: chr0naut
People without faith accept the vaccines.

People with faith accept the vaccines, too, just like people without faith both accept, and reject, the vaccines. Accepting or rejecting the vaccines is not accepting or rejecting God.

4) *** THE RELIGION IS REPLACED by a DARK RELIGION. ***

Someones know that the knowledge is power, and are creating a dark era in it.

The dark ones:
The terms inserted in the bible included are the same ones used for the occult religions, so people started idolizing the god of the dark religion.

Examples that show how the Bible is being changed into a dark religion:

THIS IS HOW THE NEW BIBLE BECOMES PART OF ANOTHER RELIGION:

The words "dark religion" do not appear in any English translation of the Bible?

1) New creator

The concept of God creator able to create from nothing is replaced.

Please reference this. It is a basic tenet of Judeo/Christian doctrine that God created everything ex-nihilo.

Satan is Freemasonry's architect and he is not capable of creating anything. He counterfeits and corrupts what God has made.

2) Sons of light:

The King James Bible says that Christians are children of light.
the term have been replaced for sons of light
Freemasons, Theosophists, Kabbalists and Gnostics are the ones who call themselves "sons of light/sons of Light."
"childs of light were replaced for "sons of light"

3) kingdom of light:

Masonic "sons of light" work to further the "kingdom of light".
Many modern Bible versions change saints in light to "kingdom of light."
Albert Mackey's Enclyclopedia of Freemasonry and its Kindred Sciences mentions the "kingdom of light":

". . . Manes, the founder of the sect of Manichees, who describes God the Father as ruling over the kingdom of light and contending with the powers of darkness."

Freemasonry started in the 1700's. It is syncretic of numerous religious traditions, including a lot of stuff from Judaism and Christianity. That is why it uses terms that one might often find in a Bible. It is just a cult.

1 Thessalonians 5:5, John 12:36 and Luke 16:8 use the gendered Koine Greek word "υἱός" which translates directly to 'a son'.

The 1611 KJV, in each case, is the one which mistranslates it to "children", which, if that had been true, would have been the non-gendered Koine Greek word "τέκνον", but it isn't.

4) Satan tests Jesus in the Desert

Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of4b the devil. Matthew 4:1
DEFINED King James Bible footnote: 4b tested, tried by
introducing the idea that the one that can test Jesus is Satan.

"When God tempts a person, he tests or proves him.

When Satan tempts a person, he entices him to to disobey God, often with the promise of reward.

The Bible For Today blasphemed the Lord Jesus Christ by having their DEFINED King James Bible (via footnotes (4b, 1c and 2b) falsely teach that Satan tested Jesus!

They are presenting the reader with the Luciferian notion that Satan was in a position of authority over the Lord Jesus Christ —that he was in a position of authority to qualify or approve him."

Satan tried, but Jesus did not fall to temptation. The passage and comments have nothing to do with authority over Jesus.

5) Pray defined as beg, implore, beseech.

Pray defined as "ask" (in reference to God) has a positive emotional connotation
Pray defined as "beg" (in reference to God) has a negative emotional connotation

D. A. Waite, Jr., author of The DEFINED King James Bible, defined the common word, "pray" in such a way as to cause you to believe that a Christian's relationship to his or her Heavenly Father is that of a beggar.
D.A. Waite Jr. defined the word, "pray" in every context, as "beg, implore, beseech."

Beggars have no right to receive anything.

Beggars do not have a 'right' to receive anything, but loving compassion would grant them good things. We are sinners, all of us, but are granted forgiveness through the grace of God's compassion for us (and the word 'grace' is often misused and misunderstood by Christians, too, but that is another story).

Jesus used the word, "ask" and taught his disciples to expect an answer:

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." Matthew 7:7,9

Beg is NOT the meaning of pray.

The basic definition of the word pray is to ask.

Then how do you explain this passage:

In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know how we ought to pray, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groans too deep for words. Romans 8:26.

That doesn't sound like just 'asking'.

...among other lot of changes, like the "Holiness" is removed from God´s definition in religions.

Perhaps that is because the standard religious understanding of the word in English is at odds with what the word meant in the original Hebrew. For instance, the Pope is referred to as "his holiness", i.e, as a title or honorific, but the word holiness (as best defined by it use in Leviticus 19:2) meant something that is singular and separate, distanced from anything sinful.

In conclusion

Changes in the Bibles, shows a dark religion inserted in the Bible.

One have to recognize their perseverancy and efectiveness:

They have the goal, the generational timing and resouces,
they did replacements in key concepts (some replacements in progress),
used the changes in their advantage of their plan,
also they inserted their God and their religion in the New Bibles
which are used, learned and teached to most of the population,
that people dont realize the changes.

They are very efficient.

That is the power of small, gradual changes

some examples

The King James Bible from the outset had mistranslations, was based in a different culture and language, made assumptions based upon the knowledge of the time (like talking about 'unicorns' instead of wild ox, and 'dragons', instead of crocodiles), and the KJV is itself archaic, as the English language has changed since.

Any book has editions where little changes and corrections are incorporated over time. Humans are error prone and the processes of translation and compilation contain those little human errors. A greater problem would be to NOT correct any errors and to assume that a particular translation of the Bible was somehow the 'perfect' and untouchable one, and therefore other translations, editions, and paraphrase's must be 'wrong'.