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Last Words of a "Vaccine" Victim

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posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I see very few members "pushing the vaccine" but if you even dare to question the anti vaxxers that's what you get accused of.

I have never myself told folk to get jabbed, I just try to counter the ignorance.

Not seeing any "fear" of the unvaccinated here in the UK. More like sadness, really.


I'm not sure that there are that many unvaxxed people in the UK any more. It mostly seems like inner city minorities who believe some of the conspiracies that have been going around on Instagram for years about vaccines (in general) being a tool of the west to sterilize Muslim.



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: IAMTAT

His last message made him sound like a nut job. Sounds like some serious underlying medical condition that he then blamed on the vaccine.

May he rest is peace.


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edit on 15-11-2021 by TheWhiteKnight because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn


The only thing that makes us a danger, is the fact that we will continue to resist. We have the potential to raise doubt.


That's probably the most astute thing that I've ever heard you say.

I don't agree that it's the "only" thing that makes unvaxxed people a problem, but it's definitely up there.

The problem isn't that people are raising doubts, it's that they are going beyond a healthy skepticism and are using lies, deception and misrepresented data to try to persuade people that a risk exists when it either does not exist or when it is so small that it's only a risk for a tiny percentage of people.

I've got no problems with people discussing genuine science and accurate statistic, when I see somebody afraid to leave their home because someone on the internet has told them that standing next to vaxxed people on the subway will cause them to become infertile because the vaxxed person will shed proteins that will be sucked into their bodies and cause their womb to go into shock. That's a different story.

Or when people take news stories about children who died of unrelated things and start using their names and pictures claiming that the shot killed them.


Sounds exactly as if you are describing what I have been hearing from those pushing the vaccine for nearly a year now.

Except it is those that are vaccinated that are fear being next to the unvaccinated, even they should be the ones protected, since they have received the vaccine.



It's not just about covid.

You only need to read some of the posts on this forum to see it.

There are just so many wackos out there that latch on to all kinds of conspiracies. Being an anti-vaxxer might just be the latest thing that somebody is into.

You don't know if they wash their hands after using the toilet because they think that soap is a tool of the illuminati, or if they wash their hands in their own urine because somebody on Tik Tok told them that it would scare of poltergeists. Or if they might just pull out a gun and shoot you dead because they think that you're gang stalking them.

Hi there A.Z. May I ask you a question? BTW, I am not attacking you, just seeking clarification.

Why do you frequent a forum that is populated with, for the most part, conspiracy theorists? Please don’t reply “because the site motto is “deny ignorance”.

What you have stated is that there are “so many wackos out there” and imply that: “some of the posts on this forum” demonstrate the same kind of irrational thought or even mental illness that attract these wackos to infect the forum with even more wackiness.

Would that be correct?

So you pop in to different threads with patronizing and sarcastic comments, “talking sense” at the same time shaking your head in disbelief at the levels of mental illness you have to witness.

You know though, you could be more helpful in denying ignorance and corralling the errant sheep back to the pen of reality and common sense.

Okay, by now you have made a jolly good effort at defining the state of what it is to be irrational, out of touch with reality, and having descended unknowingly into a state of mental illness - especially schizophrenia.

Did you ever reason that mockery may not be the best medicine to give these deluded individuals the eyes you have to see things the way they truly are?

Could you refresh us all with a recount of “a day in the life” of Arghh Zombies?

Like from when you go to sleep at night, what you think about before you do...your dreams, what you see when you open your eyes, what you think about when you see the msm news reports. Which experiences make you happy, which disappoint you or sadden.

Do you see anything unusual or untoward happening in the world ( except for the proliferation of whackos of course).

Can we have at least a last glimpse of what it is to mentally well, you know before one last conspiracy becomes the last straw that breaks the camel’s back and we go out of our depths and out of our minds with our fear flowing out behind us as we fall through the thin ice.

You do care enough about your fellow man to do that don’t you?

Thank you Sir.



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: HilterDayon
Why do you frequent a forum that is populated with, for the most part, conspiracy theorists? Please don’t reply “because the site motto is “deny ignorance”.

What you have stated is that there are “so many wackos out there” and imply that: “some of the posts on this forum” demonstrate the same kind of irrational thought or even mental illness that attract these wackos to infect the forum with even more wackiness.

Would that be correct?


Not directed at me I know but, I want to reply.

Given your little stat box under your avatar, I take it your new? (relatively) looking at those numbers. So i guess you werent here on ATS when the whole 2012-13 hulla ba loo went down. To be concise, Yes... there a ton of wackos out there, and here on ATS too and there are a ton who for what ever reason listen to them (often simply to be in an echo chamber of like minds)... god just go look at the predictions and prophesies forum.

2012 and the absolute garbage insanity it drew out of a large portion of the members here (and some of those same 2012 end of the world is a real thing its gonna happen, the GFL are coming to save us loonies are still here and some of them post in this very pandemics forum), was one reason i gave up on ATS for a long time and CT in general... there are alot of people in the CT circles who simply attach themselves to any and everything, regardless of evidence or contradictions because it fits there own beliefs or delusions loosely.

For the CTers who are alot more skeptical or 'good solid evidence first please' types, so much of the Covid and anti vacc mania in the world and here on ATS looks like pure paranoid insanity when you place even a minimum amount of actual medical understanding or thought into it.

People like AZ and Occamsrazor are simply fed up with the stupid BS I guess (i know i am), and while the thought of 'why not just go away' is valid, some people might find the BS so offensive they want to face it head on, even in a confrontive and aggressive way, maybe in the hopes of knocking some sense into even just one person... doesnt mean you have to stop being a CT if you dont follow the frothing masses, you just have to realize that everything in the world ISNT always a conspiracy, especially in a once or twice in a century event like a global pandemic.
edit on 15-11-2021 by BigfootNZ because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 08:50 PM
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vaccine is safe but some people do die from them, dont discount the idea so quickly. its rare but does happen and you dont know if he lied or not, you can only assume either way.



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: BigfootNZ

Hi Bigfoot, thanks for your reply.

I don't think it was actually 2012 when all of this hulla-balloo happened. It was September 11, 2001.

It just raised too many questions.



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 09:12 PM
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You can tell by the pro vax crowd comments that they really do not care about health of others, rather they are only interested in forcing others to believe in their shoddy beliefs.

When it comes to people refusing to inject radical new experimental medicines, to the vaxers I say:

Though doth protest too much, methinks.



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn


I thought about that. I asked myself, why take a vaccine that might make me sick, or kill me, when I can get COVID, and it might make me sick, or kill me.

Since there is no way of knowing for sure, either way, if I will get sick, or if I will die, then I choose to opt out of the vaccine.





Exactly, at least you can still try to avoid it if you're unvaxxed (i.e. handwashing, wearing a mask, etc.)



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Most concerning is that the vax caused him for his muscles disappeared is stupefying.



posted on Nov, 15 2021 @ 11:23 PM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

How many of those unvaxed actually died from covid? but isn't from Covid yet it is only listed as covid? like what has occurred in nursing homes. We still dont have a clear full picture.


edit on 16-11-2021 by HawkEyi because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 12:49 AM
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originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: IAMTAT

His last message made him sound like a nut job. Sounds like some serious underlying medical condition that he then blamed on the vaccine.

May he rest is peace.
Some people just don’t want to know the obvious. Sad to say.



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 03:49 AM
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originally posted by: HilterDayon

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn


The only thing that makes us a danger, is the fact that we will continue to resist. We have the potential to raise doubt.


That's probably the most astute thing that I've ever heard you say.

I don't agree that it's the "only" thing that makes unvaxxed people a problem, but it's definitely up there.

The problem isn't that people are raising doubts, it's that they are going beyond a healthy skepticism and are using lies, deception and misrepresented data to try to persuade people that a risk exists when it either does not exist or when it is so small that it's only a risk for a tiny percentage of people.

I've got no problems with people discussing genuine science and accurate statistic, when I see somebody afraid to leave their home because someone on the internet has told them that standing next to vaxxed people on the subway will cause them to become infertile because the vaxxed person will shed proteins that will be sucked into their bodies and cause their womb to go into shock. That's a different story.

Or when people take news stories about children who died of unrelated things and start using their names and pictures claiming that the shot killed them.


Sounds exactly as if you are describing what I have been hearing from those pushing the vaccine for nearly a year now.

Except it is those that are vaccinated that are fear being next to the unvaccinated, even they should be the ones protected, since they have received the vaccine.



It's not just about covid.

You only need to read some of the posts on this forum to see it.

There are just so many wackos out there that latch on to all kinds of conspiracies. Being an anti-vaxxer might just be the latest thing that somebody is into.

You don't know if they wash their hands after using the toilet because they think that soap is a tool of the illuminati, or if they wash their hands in their own urine because somebody on Tik Tok told them that it would scare of poltergeists. Or if they might just pull out a gun and shoot you dead because they think that you're gang stalking them.

Hi there A.Z. May I ask you a question? BTW, I am not attacking you, just seeking clarification.

Why do you frequent a forum that is populated with, for the most part, conspiracy theorists? Please don’t reply “because the site motto is “deny ignorance”.

What you have stated is that there are “so many wackos out there” and imply that: “some of the posts on this forum” demonstrate the same kind of irrational thought or even mental illness that attract these wackos to infect the forum with even more wackiness.

Would that be correct?

So you pop in to different threads with patronizing and sarcastic comments, “talking sense” at the same time shaking your head in disbelief at the levels of mental illness you have to witness.

You know though, you could be more helpful in denying ignorance and corralling the errant sheep back to the pen of reality and common sense.

Okay, by now you have made a jolly good effort at defining the state of what it is to be irrational, out of touch with reality, and having descended unknowingly into a state of mental illness - especially schizophrenia.

Did you ever reason that mockery may not be the best medicine to give these deluded individuals the eyes you have to see things the way they truly are?

Could you refresh us all with a recount of “a day in the life” of Arghh Zombies?

Like from when you go to sleep at night, what you think about before you do...your dreams, what you see when you open your eyes, what you think about when you see the msm news reports. Which experiences make you happy, which disappoint you or sadden.

Do you see anything unusual or untoward happening in the world ( except for the proliferation of whackos of course).

Can we have at least a last glimpse of what it is to mentally well, you know before one last conspiracy becomes the last straw that breaks the camel’s back and we go out of our depths and out of our minds with our fear flowing out behind us as we fall through the thin ice.

You do care enough about your fellow man to do that don’t you?

Thank you Sir.


I came for the UFOs.



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 03:53 AM
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originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: AaarghZombies

How many of those unvaxed actually died from covid? but isn't from Covid yet it is only listed as covid? like what has occurred in nursing homes. We still dont have a clear full picture.



It's been a year, the data has been in for a while. What we saw was an acceleration in deaths. People who in a vulnerable position dying sooner than their level of vulnerability would have suggested.

Throwing some numbers out there, imagine a care home that would expect 10 deaths per year on average, split out through the year but mostly concentrated in the winter months. Well, that care home might have 12 deaths in 2020, all in a two month period in the spring.

Everyone who would probably have died that year died in a short space of time, plus maybe one or two extra.

This is the effect that covid had. It killed the most vulnerable first.



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 03:55 AM
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originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: IAMTAT

Most concerning is that the vax caused him for his muscles disappeared is stupefying.


This isn't a known side effect of the vax, or of any of the ingredients.

There is no known scientific mechanism to account for how something like that might have happened, especially not so long after he'd had his second shot. There shouldn't have been anything left in his system to cause it.

Saying that the vax caused this is like saying that somebody ate a product containing peanuts and suffered an allergic reaction that caused them to grow gills.



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 04:33 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

Because you have to be aware the mRNA in medicine is new, has never being tested on a larger massive scale. Jimmy Dore had months of headaches and shakes still has.

That is not normal.
edit on 16-11-2021 by HawkEyi because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 05:12 AM
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originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Because you have to be aware the mRNA in medicine is new, has never being tested on a larger massive scale. Jimmy Dore had months of headaches and shakes still has.

That is not normal.


Dore also pushed a whole bunch of misinformation that's since conclusively been debunked, so it's perfectly plausible that he hasn't experienced those things and is just making them up, or that they're stress induced. Given some of the other things that he's into there could be all kinds of legitimate other causes as well.



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 05:26 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies
You push misinformation so it's perfectly plausible for everyone to dismiss everything you write.



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
You push misinformation so it's perfectly plausible for everyone to dismiss everything you write.



This misinformation, would you care to link to the posts?

My comment history is set to public, you can search every word that I've ever posted on this site.



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 07:00 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies
How many times did you state 'There's an old fashioned traditional style vax'?

I have brought it up many times.... usually right after you post it.


edit on 16-11-2021 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: drinkbeker
a reply to: IAMTAT

I really don't think such a tacky sales technique is required to sell your stuff here...

The paranoia and fearmongering seem to sell quite well around here.

Man, this place has gone down the drain.


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