Alec Baldwin SHOOTING

a reply to: TomCollin

Even as kids we made movies with guns. We'd use small amounts of black powder from fireworks, paint and mechanics to make a slide action on dollar squirt guns. If kids can do it in a few hours, professionals should keep actors safe.

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: JIMC5499

Blanks are potentially deadly at close range. That fact one person was killed and another was injured raises suspicion. I'm not saying Alec knowing killed someone, but whomever loaded what they are calling a "prop" knew something.

Ask Jon-Erik Hexum, oh wait you can't.

I'd ask, but I'd never take a live firearm and point at someone. Let alone pulling the trigger.

But the fact I can't ask kinda goes in line with what I'm saying. And I advocate for guns. But also (especially) gun training and safety.

originally posted by: generik

originally posted by: CrazyWater
a reply to: dollukka

How do you shoot someone w a prop gun? Something is very fishy here

Nothing fishy at all. while not exactly common, neither is it really that uncommon. the very thong that makes a "firearm dangerous", is still present even in a "prop gun". namely the gunpowder. in order for the gunpowder to properly ignite, it has to be contained. just like any firecracker, or other explosive, only by containing, and thus restricting that powder, can it go "bang". so even though there is no bullet, does not make it "safe". anything in the gun barrel, can thus be thrown by the force of the charge exploding. a piece of the casing can break off and likewise become a projectile. any "wadding" used to contain the explosive charge can be shot out and become a projectile. so even with no bullet, and even only a potion of the normal charge of powder, a "blank" always has a chance to kill.

And you would think everyone on set would have some kind of training that tells them exactly this, so everyone knows just because it's not "loaded" doesn't mean it's safe. Shots should be set up so that no one is ever aiming directly at a person when they fire the prop gun. If all of that is not done I'd say the studios are grossly negligent and should be liable for her death, along with Baldwin for handling a deadly weapon without proper training.

Oh the irony considering how virulently anti-gun these Hollywood idiots are. If only they took the time to actually learn about how they work.

originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The question is how someone holds that job. I have firearms and use waaaaaay more precautions. Stupid sh!t shouldn't equal a life. Especially when it's your job and other people have lives on the line.

When stupid # equals a life, there need to be charges. There's a difference between an accident and criminal stupidity that kills someone. There should absolutely be precautions in place to prevent this sort of thing, especially considering it's happened before.

a reply to: dollukka

Did you really just make this about politics? SERIOUSLY!

originally posted by: sine.nomine
I'd ask, but I'd never take a live firearm and point at someone. Let alone pulling the trigger.
But the fact I can't ask kinda goes in line with what I'm saying. And I advocate for guns. But also (especially) gun training and safety.

Hexum was killed because he held a gun loaded with a blank to his head and pulled the trigger as a joke. The force of the blank drove parts of his skull into his brain.

I agree with you about pointing a "LIVE" firearm at somebody. This was not supposed to be a "LIVE" firearm. As far as the direction it was pointed, we don't know what shot the director wanted. As I said I'm waiting for the investigation. If somebody did something criminal or negligent, they need to be punished, but some times sh*t happens.

a reply to: dollukka

He also said that Epstein was killed by Russuian

Lmfao, that's a good one.

On topic: This is a tragedy and as already mentioned, very reminiscent of Brandon Lee.

The fact that it is reminiscent of Brandon Lee makes me feel a little uncomfortable considering "Let's go Brandon" is the big meme right now.

Something does feel off about this.

It's ok to commit murder as long as it is on the set of a Hollywood production. lol

Eff Alec Baldwin. He's human dung. And now he's a murderer.

Local fox station said prop gun was loaded with live rounds, no mention of the type of gun.

Live rounds makes me think even more this wasn't an accident.

a reply to: Soloprotocol


Yesh, right after i replied to you i was thinking if i did not confuse it with another incident. my bad m8.

originally posted by: BlackKat
It's ok to commit murder as long as it is on the set of a Hollywood production. lol

Eff Alec Baldwin. He's human dung. And now he's a murderer.

It was in new mexico..........
Its the cheaper dirtier alternative.

The only conspiracy here lies in Alex himself.
Why did he point and shoot the gun at the cinematographer and the director?
100 bucks says they angered the explosive little man child and he pointed and shot the gun at them. Whether he knew it would hurt or kill someone? Well once again we know Alex Baldwins anger issues so chances are the guy knew what was going to happen. I will not believe ANY cover stories for this act until I see the actual footage of it occurring and you can bet your ass there is video....if it hasn't been destroyed yet

a reply to: Oathkeeper73

There should have never been live ammunition on the set.

Some people here would have you think it's just an oops moment, when in reality a movie set should never ever have live rounds on it.

If for some insane reason they decided to have LIVE ammunition as a prop, someone really needs to explain why those rounds weren't under the most extreme care of a professionally trained individual.

But hey, mistakes happen.

originally posted by: Vector99
Some people here would have you think it's just an oops moment, when in reality a movie set should never ever have live rounds on it.

Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was killed on the New Mexico set of the Alec Baldwin film “Rust” after she was shot by a prop gun fired by the film’s star and producer, Alec Baldwin. IATSE Local 44, which covers prop masters, sent an email to its members early Friday morning that said the gun used in the scene contained “a live round” and the production’s propmaster was not a member of Local 44. Director Joel Souza also was hit and injured by a bullet and was treated at an area hospital before being released. Source

I would like to see gun activists take an approach of education rather than elimination to help prevent accidental shootings.

Terrible incident. Terrible for all involved.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yet no explanation to why a LIVE round was ever near a prop set.

Sure, just an accident, nothing to see here folks, move along.

originally posted by: Vector99
Yet no explanation to why a LIVE round was ever near a prop set.

The way Local 44 is spinning it is the film took the cheap route and didn't have a union armorer/prop master on set and this person screwed up.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It still makes zero sense as to why live rounds would ever be on a set, they aren't props.

Filming set's aren't just random places where they grab whatever is available to make it work, they are extremely expensive places, and it sounds like this set was a mini town.

How in the hell does LIVE ammunition ACCIDENTALLY make its way into a place like this?

Hint, it doesn't.

a reply to: dollukka

Alex Baldwin is a scumbag murderer.

And he shot a woman . Probably someone he raped