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Alec Baldwin SHOOTING

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posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: face23785

It appears the local prosecutor may be out of her league here. The NM OHSA looks to be interested in potential prosecution, as could the state of New Mexico.

At least I hope so. Then there are the wrongful death lawsuits.

TheRedneck


What does "wrongful death lawsuits" mean over the Pond? Is that a technical term?

Just curious.



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: panoz77

Thank you, but I will trust Smith & Wesson more than a YouTube video. Your mileage may vary.

TheRedneck


But yet you use Wikipedia for your "research" as to what constitutes and defines a prop gun, got it.



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

A death that never should have happened.



wrong·ful death

adjective
denoting a civil action in which damages are sought against a party for causing a death, typically when criminal action has failed or is not attempted.
"a wrongful death lawsuit"



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck

While I agree that mocking over tragedy is in poor taste, I also cannot ignore the fact that Alec Baldwin literally made a career out of mocking Donald Trump over every action that could be twisted into tragedy or lie that could be advanced through repetition.

One can sometimes be forgiven for responding in kind to a history of malicious attacks.

TheRedneck


Im sorry, i missed it, what tragedy was it that Baldwin was mocking Trump over?



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:00 PM
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posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: face23785

It appears the local prosecutor may be out of her league here. The NM OHSA looks to be interested in potential prosecution, as could the state of New Mexico.

At least I hope so. Then there are the wrongful death lawsuits.

TheRedneck


Interesting. That's good there might be multiple avenues down which justice may be served.

Re: lawsuits, I was talking to a friend and he read the father of the woman killed said he didn't blame Baldwin and that it was just an accident. Maybe that was his initial reaction, but as more details have started to come out, I wonder if he's starting to think otherwise.



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yes, it is probably an American expression. It's a legal term for when someone is killed without just cause ("wrongful death"), intended to be used as a civil punishment. Awards can run into the millions of dollars. Typically such a lawsuit occurs after prosecution instead of in lieu of prosecution, but that has been changing as people get more greedy (and prosecutions get more iffy in high profile cases).

The level of proof required is different. A criminal prosecution like Involuntary Manslaughter requires proof "beyond a reasonable doubt." A wrongful death civil suit only requires a "preponderance of the evidence."

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yes, it is probably an American expression. It's a legal term for when someone is killed without just cause ("wrongful death"), intended to be used as a civil punishment. Awards can run into the millions of dollars. Typically such a lawsuit occurs after prosecution instead of in lieu of prosecution, but that has been changing as people get more greedy (and prosecutions get more iffy in high profile cases).

The level of proof required is different. A criminal prosecution like Involuntary Manslaughter requires proof "beyond a reasonable doubt." A wrongful death civil suit only requires a "preponderance of the evidence."

TheRedneck


Thanks. Same here. Sort of. As in more likely than not.

Preponderance? Antelope. Etc.



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: panoz77

Response already given.

TheRedneck



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posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: alphabetaone


Im sorry, i missed it, what tragedy was it that Baldwin was mocking Trump over?

I don't think you did. But take your pick:
  • Trump was going to be arrested for tax evasion.
  • Trump was going to be sued for having an affair.
  • Trump was going to be removed from office for making a phone call.
  • Trump was going to be prosecuted for Mafia ties.
  • Trump was going to be assassinated.
  • Etc,. etc., etc.
Four seasons of SNL skits. I can't even remember all the ones I saw, much less all the ones he did. I actually don't watch SNL much anymore... a shame because I used to love it. It's become cringe-worthy.

Can we at least be consistent here?

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:26 PM
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Thanks. Same here. Sort of. As in more likely than not.

Yeah, there's not much difference, if any, between the two phrases. Someone, probably a lawyer, at some time seems to have decided to use "preponderance" because it sounds all grand and stuff.

Not nearly the difference between, say, "vaccine" and "treatment."


TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: face23785

There are usually multiple avenues of prosecution for anything bigger than a traffic ticket. The long arm of the law seems to have been blessed with multiple hands.

I am in a bit of shock that a father would see something like this happen and not have some animosity toward the man who negligently pulled a gun, pointed it in the direction of his daughter, and pulled the trigger without knowing the gun was empty. What kind of father could do that? I have gone to the edge of "killing mode" over my kids over much more minor things! Multiple times!

Yeah, it was an accident, but an accident caused by sheer negligence! I just cannot understand it...

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:34 PM
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edit on 10/26/2021 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: face23785

It appears the local prosecutor may be out of her league here. The NM OHSA looks to be interested in potential prosecution, as could the state of New Mexico.

At least I hope so. Then there are the wrongful death lawsuits.

TheRedneck


What does "wrongful death lawsuits" mean over the Pond? Is that a technical term?

Just curious.


Good examples are O.J. Simpson (could be similar for Baldwin) 🤠



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:48 PM
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What I don't get is how the guy shoots two people in a mistake?

One person, sure, did he shoot twice? Or a bunch of shots.

Also, I hear that on a movie set even a gun with blanks one doesn't suppose to shoot directly at a person.



posted on Oct, 26 2021 @ 04:55 PM
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Just a coincidence, right????

Nothing to see here, move along......





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