Wife got Sinopharm vaccine which uses the old style dead virus. 86 percent with no Mrna junk

I have never told my wife to not get the vax and when she asked me questions I have told her what I know to the best of my reading ability. She ran her own experiment on the side using feedback from her friends and the reactions to their own vaccination. It has been generally agreed for a long time that the Chinese SINOVAX vaccine had some of the unpleasant side effects we read about with vaccines and it never worked as promised.

Sinopharm has not been widely available but if you have connections it could be had starting about 6 months ago. If you take the time to look up the phase one thru 4 studies I think most will come away impressed.

I do not have much trust in anything coming out of China but I will grudgingly admit they might have done something good for a change. I first looked at the UAE study about Sinopharm which was actually carried out over a year before approval www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... One of the deciding factors (or helped) was the Kings sister who has had cancer like forever took the Sinopharm vaccine and she is doing fine considering..

Long article as it covers just about anything they found out and most of what you might want to know...

Several candidate COVID-19 vaccines were developed from diverse platforms. One of these was the BBIBP-CorV vaccine (also known as the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine) which was made by the Chinese state-owned pharmaceutical business Sinopharm in China and adopted by the United Arab Emirates (UAE) (Zhang et al., 2021). Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine is an inactivated vaccine that introduces a dead copy of SARS-CoV-2 into the body by a two-dose schedule, with 14 or 21 days between the 2 doses. By inserting the vaccine dose intramuscularly, the dead antigens from the virus are employed to make antibodies that prepare the immune system for future attacks by the virus. (Xia et al., 2021). The traditional inactivated whole-virus vaccines do not lead to clinical disease. In this technology, the inactivated viruses maintain their ability to replicate in vivo with mild or no symptoms (Forni and Mantovani, 2021).

Phases 1 and 2 of the clinical trials for the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine were carried out in China over 1 trial for each phase. A total enrollment of 640 participants showed that the vaccine triggered a COVID-19 neutralizing antibody response with a low rate of adverse reactions. The most common side effects were fever and pain at the site of injection and fever; however, these were mild and self-limiting and did not require treatment (Sharma et al., 2020). Phase 3 was carried out over 4 trials in the following countries: the UAE, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Peru and Argentina, with a total 69 000 people enrolled. The UAE approved the vaccine on December 9, 2020; the UAE announced that the vaccine was 86% efficacious, according to the interim results of its phase 3 trial (Xia et al., 2021).

Having administered over 2 million doses of the vaccine as of mid-January 2021, the UAE Ministry of Health reported the vaccine to be 100% effective in preventing mild and severe COVID-19 cases (China to run human coronavirus vaccine trial in UAE 2020, Development of an Inactivated Vaccine Candidate, 2021, Cyranoski, 2020, Zahid et al., 2021). Moreover, the World Health Organization (WHO) announced that most side effects of the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine in 3 clinical trials on 16 671 participants aged 18–59 years were mild to moderate, with headache, fatigue, and injection site reactions being the most common (World Health Organization (WHO) 2021).

Published data to support adverse reactions to the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine are lacking. Only 2 studies focus on this vaccine (Hatmal et al., 2021, Jayadevan et al., 2021), and fear of the new vaccine is a driver of vaccine hesitancy (Riad et al., 2021).

Knowledge on what happens post-vaccination among the general population is still limited. Describing what to expect after the first and second dose of vaccination will help lower apprehension about this type of vaccine, increase public confidence in vaccine safety, and accelerate the vaccination process against COVID-19 (Hatmal et al., 2021, Jayadevan et al., 2021). The results of this study will be reassuring to those who are fearful of the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine. Therefore, the goal of this study was to provide evidence on Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine side effects after receiving the first and second dose, as approved by the UAE.

Sinopharm BIBP COVID-19 vaccine From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Sinopharm BIBP COVID-19 vaccine, also known as BBIBP-CorV,[1] the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine,[2] or BIBP vaccine,[2][3][4] is one of two inactivated virus COVID-19 vaccines developed by Sinopharm's Beijing Institute of Biological Products (sometimes written as Beijing Bio-Institute of Biological Products,[5] resulting in the two different acronyms BBIBP and BIBP for the same vaccine). It completed Phase III trials in Argentina, Bahrain, Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan, Peru, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) with over 60,000 participants.[6] BBIBP-CorV shares similar technology with CoronaVac and Covaxin, other inactivated virus vaccines for COVID-19.[7] Its product name is SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine (Vero Cell),[8][9][10] not to be confused with the similar product name of CoronaVac.[11][12] Peer-reviewed results published in JAMA of Phase III trials in United Arab Emirates and Bahrain showed BBIBP-CorV 78.1% effective against symptomatic cases and 100% against severe cases (21 cases in vaccinated group vs. 95 cases in placebo group).[13] In December 2020, the UAE previously announced interim results showing 86% efficacy.[14] While mRNA vaccines like the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and Moderna COVID-19 vaccine showed higher efficacy of over 90%, those present distribution challenges for some nations as they require deep-freeze facilities and trucks. BBIBP-CorV could be transported and stored at normal refrigerated temperatures.[15] BBIBP-CorV is being used in vaccination campaigns by certain countries in Asia,[16][17][18] Africa,[19][20][21] South America,[22][23][24] and Europe.[25][26][27] Sinopharm expects to produce one billion doses of BBIBP-CorV in 2021.[28] By May, Sinopharm had supplied 200 million doses.[29]

I had covid in December 2019 so I supposedly have natural immunity. Evidently some well meaning idiots in many countries will not take the natural immunity card as sufficient so.....If it becomes a problem (unless my wife vapor locks ) this will be the vaccine I will be receiving

Good for your wife. Seems to be the right choice for her.

a reply to: 727Sky

So, China, the country that wants to rule the world, invented the virus and spread it to everyone else in the world...has created a vaccine for it's own soldiers and citizens...that doesn't use mRNA tech.

Go figure.

a reply to: musicismagic

This is the way the smallpox and polio vaccines worked to my knowledge..... I had both... It takes longer to manufacture so go figure ... Like I have said China is pretty far down on my list of trust but I assume the Hisos in China have been taking the vaccine for at least a year if not longer... The clinical studies are very promising...at least no reported blood clots killing people so far.

a reply to: 727Sky


Johnson & Johnson vaccine doesn’t use mRNA tech. I took that one, no side effects at all for me!

I’d take that over anything else.

a reply to: KTemplar
Might I suggest if you are under the age of 40 do not get the JJ. EudraVigilance database has confirmed 26,041 deaths and Slovenia has suspended its use due to a 20 year old succumbed to the jab.
Remember when people said “if it saves just one life, it’s worth it”? What percentage of deaths are we to determine as reasonable?

a reply to: Zrtst


I got the jab at 55. I do believe I might have had COVID before it was really known about in the US. I have never been tested, and take elderberry and probiotics regularly. I also have a very physical job, so I am moving around quite a bit.

I did get a tumor in my leg after I got sick last year that came out of nowhere. It was surgically removed. I wonder if I might have gotten that from the covid.

I also wonder if the people who have bad side effects maybe currently have covid and not know it. There’s something missing in the data IMO.

originally posted by: Zrtst
a reply to: KTemplar
Might I suggest if you are under the age of 40 do not get the JJ. EudraVigilance database has confirmed 26,041 deaths and Slovenia has suspended its use due to a 20 year old succumbed to the jab.
Remember when people said “if it saves just one life, it’s worth it”? What percentage of deaths are we to determine as reasonable?

My Dr actually told me not to get the J&J vaccine

a reply to: 727Sky

Why wouldn't you just be okay with natural immunity?

originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: 727Sky

Why wouldn't you just be okay with natural immunity?

I am okay and even though I have already had covid my wife never got it.. The problem in the future is travel, without a vaccine.. I can fly anywhere in the world on certain airlines for basically free but now the airlines are going anal with regards to vaccines.

I am just glad I have waited and not jumped on the vaccine band wagon until more data came in. I would fight to avoid an Mrna vaccine even though I know many who have taken all the vaccines you can name, most were fine at the time of this writing however there are a few that have still not felt well or have side effects that are requiring endless medical attention. Not my idea of a good situation if you are one of the unlucky ones.

I am not concerned with an attenuated (dead) virus as that method worked for smallpox and Polio as long as the virus was actually dead. I am not afraid of covid as I said I had it before and was up playing golf (not very well I admit) on the 8th day. It took about a month to fully regain my strength...

These other current vaccines seem to allow you to get the virus and in many cases also cause you to be be asymptomatic and infect others... get the vaccine and you will not get covid or spread it to you loved one, "Oops" take the vaccine and you will not be as sick, "Ooops" Take the vaccine anyway because we say so and if you don't we will make you life very very difficult..Why because we can !

Sound familiar ?

A voice of reason youtu.be...

a reply to: 727Sky

most of the people here in the UAE are vaccinated with Sinopharm, my wife took it months ago and I didnt know, she didnt tell me about it because she knows how I feel about it, months later she got infected and was admitted to hospital with breathing problems, I used to call her and calm her down psycologicaly and tell her not to worry, its just a flue and will be over in a matter of days and thats what hapened.

months before that my older son got infected and had a mild illness, I was sitting with him and saw him tired and brought him vitamins, three days in and he was fine.

just before my wife got sick my oldes daughter got sick ( pregnant in her 8th month ) and she was always visiting us, after a week she went for testing and was positive, her husband took her to the hospital and I was always talking to her on the phone to calm her down and she told me dad dont worry Ive had wors symptoms before, she left the hosppital after a week or so.

none of us wanted the jab but were like semi pressured.

now, because they want me to travell with them to Europe and because Europe will not allow us in without a vax I had to take it for my familly, waiting for the 2nd jab 4 days from now.

Sinopharm vax is an old conventional way, thats why I took it, but the problem is that only 60 or so countries accepts it and not a lot of Europian countries accepts it, like six or seven only.

PS: I wrote this yesterday and because I was destracted forgot to post it, so just found out and posted it