A Democratic plan to wipe out independent contractors

originally posted by: squittles

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: marg6043

Under the Table.

Bye bye taxes...

Which is why they want to monitor your bank account flows ...

And why they are trying to do away with cash and make everything digital.

They are continuing to turn up the heat. Most of us know where this is heading. Unfortunately, very few of us are ready to get out of the pot.

Soon no one will be able to get out of the pot, and our goose will be thoroughly cooked.

My neighbors and I trade many goods and services. I do the same with family. No money involved. Just the last several days, I had three dinners for my family given to us for some work I did for a neighbor. I do this stuff all the time. During the Great Depression trading goods and services was a way of life since nobody had any money. One can actually thrive without money if they have some basic skills. Fishing is a good one. Also medical. A doctor can do very well off the books.

Have non of you learnt from the burn out riots. From there to here it's all done to totally destroy small businesses so large businesses can reap the rewards. Why do you think a certain Mr Gates is fast buying land?
Think on this, say, if you are the one that owns all the businesses of say trucking, you not only control the workforce but what you pay the workforce as well and when they have that level of ownership there is literally no where else to get employed.
Working for no cash (the black economy) only works in very small doses, but if it gets larger you can bet your last dollar the powers WILL drop on you.

a reply to: ketsuko

You have that exactly backwards. The Party is controlled by the Unions. Other than that I totally agree with you.

Mass Fed Printing and Treasury Looting plans underway 🤣

The Bust happens mid-2022 🤣

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
My neighbors and I trade many goods and services. I do the same with family. No money involved. Just the last several days, I had three dinners for my family given to us for some work I did for a neighbor. I do this stuff all the time. During the Great Depression trading goods and services was a way of life since nobody had any money. One can actually thrive without money if they have some basic skills. Fishing is a good one. Also medical. A doctor can do very well off the books.

During the time of the historic Dust Bowl event, and the Great Depression, another thing that happened, was they pitted starving people and families against each other.

They set it up so they worked for a mere pittance. They were forced to purchase from the company store, where they would always be perpetually in debt. They would blackball anyone that was non complaint, so they would not be able to work in the area where they are thought of trouble makers. Some rebels were beaten, some killed.

The police worked for the big businesses, so there was no help coming if you called the police, and sometimes the police were the ones hired to beat them, run them out of town, or to lock them up.

There is a good possibility the plan is, we will have nothing, and be darn glad to have nothing, as long as we are being allowed to have a mere pittance. We will be willing to fight anyone that may have a crumb more than us, and will shun them, and attack them on command.

The Great Reset. I think we should look a little closer to our unsanitized past. I think there is a lot that we can learn.

If your read what The Wyden Plan wants is to eliminate free will in small business, no big business, make them all in government employees.

It is not that socialism? taxing them to dead is not improving our nation, big corporations get away with taxes, they do not care about been taxed, they just find ways to make the profits and screw consumers.

People are blind and deaf, they hear we are going to tax the rich and everybody just salivate at the possibilities Really? how stupid can you be, is all a lie and a propaganda pitch.

Covid lock downs already have screwed the small businesses, now more taxes on the ones that are still around?

Meanwhile is the promises of the democrats to keep handling money for people to stay home and do nothing

But what the Democrats do not tell is that their soo call free money give away is made permanent will be another tax burden on the working class.

Really?

a reply to: marg6043
That article is misleading.

It doesn't take away the right to work and it also doesn't:

The goal of this plan is ultimately to force independent contractors in all 50 states to become employees for federal unemployment tax purposes.

Did you even look at the ABC Test?

What is the ABC test?
Under the ABC test, a worker is considered an employee and not an independent contractor, unless the hiring entity satisfies all three of the following conditions:

The worker is free from the control and direction of the hiring entity in connection with the performance of the work, both under the contract for the performance of the work and in fact;
The worker performs work that is outside the usual course of the hiring entity’s business; and
The worker is customarily engaged in an independently established trade, occupation, or business of the same nature as that involved in the work performed.

What this does is force companies to provide employee benefits to workers who they are calling independent contractors to avoid that.

Now the impact of this could be negative on the economy but it certainly isn't what that article says it is.

a reply to: daskakik

Already is been prove that the plan was enacted in California with disastrous result, soo the experiment failed, but still the bill is been pushed for the entire nation.

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: marg6043

Under the Table.

Bye bye taxes...

The first economies were bartering economies. Money was an invention that allowed for bartering without the direct trading of goods or services, but an implied trade of the value thereof. Bartering works, children do it all the time. I read a few years ago (I searched but didn't find anything on it), but I know there were some bills floated to try to outlaw bartering in some states (I really don't remember this well, obviously, but if memory serves me right Louisiana was one). I believe that their justification was the state's inability to tax those transactions. Hey, if they can make gathering rain water illegal or growing food and medicine in your yard, well, then the sky is pretty much the limit.

a reply to: marg6043
That doesn't change the fact that the article is misleading by saying it takes away the right to work or that it forces every independent contractor to become an employee.

Bright side - more reason to get Democrats OUT of power ASAP. I'm now glad Congress only works 147 days @ year.

a reply to: carewemust

Not going to happen. The republican party is eating its own. Not knowing whether to tie themselves to Trump and the big lie, or distance them selves, embrace the truth and encounter Trumps wrath. I mean, you should be so proud of your gym jordan, gaetz mgt and boebert... among others. But in reality, this is one guy pushing a bill, hardly the Democrats

originally posted by: TheMirrorSelf

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: marg6043

Under the Table.

Bye bye taxes...

The first economies were bartering economies. Money was an invention that allowed for bartering without the direct trading of goods or services, but an implied trade of the value thereof. Bartering works, children do it all the time. I read a few years ago (I searched but didn't find anything on it), but I know there were some bills floated to try to outlaw bartering in some states (I really don't remember this well, obviously, but if memory serves me right Louisiana was one). I believe that their justification was the state's inability to tax those transactions. Hey, if they can make gathering rain water illegal or growing food and medicine in your yard, well, then the sky is pretty much the limit.

Yea, if you're in the city, you're pretty much F'd.

They can make all the BS laws they want, enforcing them is another story.

If I come and build you a chimney and you give me 16 face cords of wood, that's a deal.

THEY CAN SHOVE THEIR UNJUST LAWS.