Question for those who are willing to ponder the possibility that we and the universe were created

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
This from an individual who told me he’s Lucifer proclaimed me God when I denied that you insist I’m a bot…
Your self serving tripe has betrayed you’re not equipped all you have done here is spout nonsense and or spout childish rants…
It’s like Randy said you may be well versed in so far as a grasp of grammar but when it comes to actual intelligence you miss the mark…
I’m not trying to emulate anybody have you convinced yourself of that also?
Tell me more of the crap you tell yourself…

Wow, that was hard to read. Perhaps I'm utterly stupid.

Do you understand the concept of irony?
Do you understand the application of irony? I guess not. Go look it up.

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Perhaps you can also find new and exciting ways to insult me. What fun!

a reply to: Kreeate

Anyone can come up with this kind of garbage and sell it as "truth".
The truly ignorant are the ones who subscribe and submit to this kind of nonsense.

The only garbage is coming from you pal. The present argument is only
regarding the possibility of that which you have already admitted to the
possibility there of. But of course you're only here to lie insult and troll your silly
ass off. You continue to affirm that you are weak with no argument. You don't
even belong in this conversation. Stop trolling.

Wow, that was hard to read. Perhaps I'm utterly stupid.

In this conversation yes you are.

a reply to: Kreeate

I was still editing my post when you decided to quote me…
this site has real issues with posting and refresh on my phone…
But my computer had no problem connecting to you…

Hahaha
You are a truly sick individual…

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate

Anyone can come up with this kind of garbage and sell it as "truth".
The truly ignorant are the ones who subscribe and submit to this kind of nonsense.

The only garbage is coming from you pal. The present argument is only
regarding the possibility of that which you have already admitted to the
possibility there of. But of course you're only here to lie insult and troll your silly
ass off. You continue to affirm that you are weak with no argument. You don't
even belong in this conversation. Stop trolling.

Wow, that was hard to read. Perhaps I'm utterly stupid.

In this conversation yes you are.

Thanks for affirming my point! Have a beer on me

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

I was still editing my post when you decided to quote me…
this site has real issues with posting and refresh on my phone…
But my computer had no problem connecting to you…

Hahaha
You are a truly sick individual…

Hey, no problem. I understand that technology might be difficult to grasp for some people.
Perfectly okay. Take your time.

We are trying to make a human connection here. Your computer "connecting" to mine sounds kind of dirty.
What would your god think of behavior like that? Simply "un-christian" and all.

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a reply to: bluemooone2

I don’t have time to watch that now…
But just from the title I’ll say this…
To us this reality is indeed real so far as our senses are concerned…
But to God the Universe wouldn’t be so real
now that’s not saying it’s a figment…
But it will never be as real as he is…

Its a great video. Watch it when you can I think that you will find some of the evidence supporting a projected universe interesting. And he is an ATS member from way back : MrMask for some type of a reply to: 5StarOracle

a reply to: Kreeate

Are you saying I’m my phone now?
I like technology I’m learning all kinds of things about you with it…

You have me mistaken for somebody else, although I fully believe in Christ…
I don’t proclaim to be a Christian…
I’m a sinner…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

Are you saying I’m my phone now?
I like technology I’m learning all kinds of things about you with it…

You have me mistaken for somebody else, although I fully believe in Christ…
I don’t proclaim to be a Christian…
I’m a sinner…

Congratulations. Hope you find what you're looking for.

I’m a sinner…

Only if you believe in the bible.
I admit that humans are fallible. Some are good, some are exceptionally good, some are bad, some are exceptionally bad. That's life.
Subscription to a belief system is optional. Some do it as a cop-out. It's a syndrome where some people feel that they can do bad things simply because they will be "forgiven" if they pray enough. Shunning responsibility essentially.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate
...although I fully believe in Christ…
I don’t proclaim to be a Christian…

Sure, I get it. If I fully believe in Santa Claus, it doesn't necessarily make me a "SantaClausian".

The story of Jesus has many righteous and moral aspects to it. The premise and ultimate goal of it all is where I start having a problem. Aesop's fables also had many morals and taught life lessons/values, but everyone accepts those being fables. The same cannot be said for the biblical tales.

a reply to: Kreeate

The truth is praying has nothing to do with forgiveness…
But it will work wonders in bringing you closer to God…
Everybody is already forgiven
For almost everything except for certain things set aside which never will be…
The debt has been paid in full by God himself
It’s yours for the taking the truthful desire for it all that’s required…
That would involve taking responsibility…
Forgiving others or yourself is a different ballgame all together…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate


Everybody is already forgiven

Except those who are going to hell, right? Jesus died in vain for those people, right?

a reply to: 5StarOracle
None of what you have said is actual proof.

You are just bringing to the table things that have formed your opinion and then seem to be bothered by the fact that others don't agree with your opinion.

a reply to: Randyvine2
Actually you are not understanding the argument being made. Even if a creator exists, it may not be your god.

Also, just because we have a word for something doesn't mean that thing exists.

These concepts shouldn't be that hard to grasp.

a reply to: Kreeate

Sure he did, he died for everyone
the thing is the people going there deny or never except that he did…
And worse know and fully reject him
What you said equates to placing that blame on God…
That’s entirely wrong…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

Sure he did, he died for everyone
the thing is the people going there deny or never except that he did…
And worse know and fully reject him
What you said equates to placing that blame on God…
That’s entirely wrong…

So your statement "Everybody is already forgiven" is not true then?

a reply to: daskakik

Actually what I said does constitute proof…
It’s ok that you can’t grasp the how and why it’s already been established you are incapable of that…
The only thing about you that bothers me is how you were trying to misrepresent what I actually said…

Everything that’s actually known points to the need of a supernatural kickstart
You have failed to even attempt to show how anything known not supposed shows otherwise…
You won’t and can’t do that…
This is absolute truth

a reply to: 5StarOracle
Only in your mind does it constitute proof.

I'm not misrepresenting what you said. I pointed out how it fails when logic is applied correctly.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Randyvine2
Actually you are not understanding the argument being made. Even if a creator exists, it may not be your god.

Also, just because we have a word for something doesn't mean that thing exists.

These concepts shouldn't be that hard to grasp.

No your argument failed because like I warned you. It sucks.

a reply to: Kreeate

Ah so you want to take things out of context to sell your premise…
The thing is my entire statement covered how I said it’s yours for the taking but you have to accept it…
Are you so thick that you can’t understand How your feeble attempt to twist my words has failed to prove me wrong…
I said what I meant and meant what I said…
There is no contradiction in what I said none at all…

a reply to: daskakik

You did no such thing…
I feel sorry for you if you actually believe you have…
I have shown how you are illogical though…