Question for those who are willing to ponder the possibility that we and the universe were created

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

Oh sorry…
I didn’t realize I was conversing with an individual who suffers from delusions of grandeur…

So, because I'm asking for proof and evidence of your delusion, I'm the one being delusional?! lmfao!!!!

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
That is until science found out they do sing…
Do you understand now?

They emit sound. You twisted that into singing to fit your interpretation.

Lots of things emit sound, it doesn't mean they are actually singing.

Then you have the contradiction I pointed out that you will probably just gloss over.

a reply to: 5StarOracle
Guess you don't know what "having your cake and eat it too" means. It means you contradicted yourself (you are trying to have it both ways). You can't eat your cake and still have it.

You claim to know god exists and then turn right around and say everything that exists needs a kickstart a couple of posts after saying god didn't need one.

a reply to: Kreeate

I have given proof, all that exists I offer up to you…
I don’t have a sky fairy…
That would be another one of your delusions…

Prove anything in existence was not created prove anything in existence including yourself does not exist…

Can’t do that?

Guess what that actually means…

That is absolute, irrefutable even… you all of science nothing “known” can change that…

Of course only a reasonable intellect knows how and why that’s true…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

I have given proof, all that exists I offer up to you…
I don’t have a sky fairy…
That would be another one of your delusions…

Prove anything in existence was not created prove anything in existence including yourself does not exist…

Can’t do that?

Guess what that actually means…

That is absolute, irrefutable even… you all of science nothing “known” can change that…

Of course only a reasonable intellect knows how and why that’s true…

You've not given proof of anything. I can "say" that unicorns are real. There... I've given you proof because I said so. Bible logic. lmao

Give us "irrefutable" scientific evidence of your sky fairy please. In your next post. If you can't, then it doesn't exist.

Thanks and tataa

a reply to: daskakik

I also told you that he was the creator of the universe existing separate from his creation and how he was eternal unbound by the confines and laws of his creation…

So I didn’t actually contradict myself at all…
But in your imagination you suppose I did…
Or are you actually just lying?

Guess I’ll have my cake and eat it too after all…

a reply to: 5StarOracle
You said everything that exists was created and you said god exists, so which is it?

Face it, you just found a semantic loophole to lie to yourself.

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: daskakik

I also told you that he was the creator of the universe existing separate from his creation and how he was eternal unbound by the confines and laws of his creation…

So I didn’t actually contradict myself at all…
But in your imagination you suppose I did…
Or are you actually just lying?

Guess I’ll have my cake and eat it too after all…

You seem to have a direct link with "God". Please explain...

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

a reply to: Kreeate

Soon as you can prove a unicorn exists I’ll believe you…
All of what’s known says God did it…
I’ll trust what is actually known over than the moronic grunts you are offering up…

Can you provided anything scientific that proves there is no God?
I gave you Science that says a supernatural kickstart was needed…

There is no Science no proof that God does not exist…
That’s what Science tells you…
Actual testable observable evidence…
That is irrefutable proof until you or science can prove otherwise…
That is all that is known…

Therefore God exists according to Science that is actual intellectual substance…
It will remain the only evidence available which constitutes irrefutable proof…
The nothing you can offer up in attempt to refute remains nothing…

Or do you have some proof that a supernatural kickstart was not needed?

The Universe and everything in it says otherwise…

That’s what all of Science knows…

Back to square one with you…
show me proof the Universe did not require a supernatural kickstart…

Until you can… All Science can prove is that “God did it”

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Kreeate

Soon as you can prove a unicorn exists I’ll believe you…

I'm not claiming unicorns exist. You are claiming that god exists. Prove it.
Stop deflecting, lol
Your regular and usual brainwashing christian indoctrination bollocks is not going to fly with me mate.

ETA: Strawman circlejerk prominence seems to be the food of thought of the day and also unto eternity for 5StarOracle, lol

a reply to: daskakik

Everything that exists in the Universe is what I actually said…
Your failing to prove me wrong…
You’re also incapable of finding an actual flaw in what I actually did say…

Do yourself a favour and give it up…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
Soon as you can prove a unicorn exists I’ll believe you…

There is no Science no proof that God does not exist…

I bet you don't even see it.

You just sunk your own argument.

a reply to: 5StarOracle
Unicorns exist.
Prove me wrong!

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
Everything that exists in the Universe is what I actually said…
Your failing to prove me wrong…
You’re also incapable of finding an actual flaw in what I actually did say…

Do yourself a favour and give it up…

This actually what you said:

Can you provide that scientific evidence showing how and why a supernatural kickstart is not needed for everything we know in existence?

"Everything we know in existence". You claim to know god exists so that is included in everything you know, until it becomes a problem and then he is somehow out of the loop.

a reply to: daskakik

Sure we can ponder the possibility but it is up to those making the claim to offer the proof. Honestly, most people don't really try to disprove the existence of god, they are just telling you why your proof isn't compelling.

The proof is the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the handy work of
all that you see and say isn't proof. Not to mention nothing else on
this earth explains our existence better then Biblical truth. No need
to make claims to truth. If you have a better explanation for existence
bring it to the table for all to see and bring your proof. Otherwise all
you're proving is that you have no guts to make a claim.

So don't be a coward like your sidekick get a long. Level the playing field. No
scholar worth his salt would deny Jesus Christ lived died on that cross and
walked out of that tomb. No scholar can refutes those facts. Atheist scholars
can only explain differently using their own words. You're simply hiding
behind your personalized request for proof. So do we have two cowards here.
Or do you have something earth shaking for the world rather than the garbled
up mess science tries to piece together with lies and call an explanation?

At least Christianity has the cahounnies to put it out there for all to pick
apart. Like spoiled children mocking and stalking little cookie crumblers.
Who's destiny btw is egg on their face.

a reply to: Kreeate

You have nothing of substance to offer up I’m not deflecting anything you have said I have addressed it all…
Simple Kreeate…
You have failed to change the validity of anything I’ve said…
Just the facts no pseudo science required I wouldn’t brainwash you, I’d give you a brain transplant first so you can actually know how a real one works…

originally posted by: 5StarOracle
Everything that exists in the Universe is what I actually said…

You must be "the" God then? Seeing as you know everything.

Here's a question "God"... why are you an absolute bastard to anyone that doesn't kiss your *ss?

a reply to: Randyvine2
I don't have a better explanation but yours doesn't really fill the bill either.

I'm not even really opposed to there being a creator but I really don't think you know who they are or what they might be like.

a reply to: daskakik

Those two statements say opposite things…
lol
My reasoning is intact

a reply to: Kreeate

Here's a question "God"... why are you an absolute bastard to anyone that doesn't kiss your *ss?

Oh come now clearly you should know?