911：Nostradamus DID predict the whole era precisely

Thanks for the original post. I did not know that AQ started training to take down the WTC in 1999; that answers longstanding questions about this quatrain. However, regarding "the Great King of the Mongols" I think there are a few misunderstandings. First of all, China was never completely on board with the War on Terror, they contributed next to nothing to the effort except for using it as an excuse to crack down on the Uighurs. In fact, I had read a document quoting a PLA general praising the events of 911. China was totally against the invasion of Iraq and was in fact a major arms supplier to Saddam Hussein. Likewise, much of the weaponry (particularly Chinese-made rockets) used by the Taliban in Afghanistan against ISAF originated in China. Also, don't forget that China and North Korea are major allies of Iran, which of course is constantly at odds with the USA and other western countries. I agree with Thoughtcrime that the reference to the King of the Mongols is actually referring to the modern Mongols. Mongolia contributed troops to both the Iraq War and the war in Afghanistan in support of the United States and its allies. I'm sure Mongolia's contribution helped the allies greatly. That's why Nostradamus mentioned the Great King of the Mongols, as he was probably aware of how the Mongol Empire had also wiped out the Islamic Caliphate just a few hundred years before his time. Remember, a major theme of Nostradamus regarding our current time period is the story of how a force in the Far East (most likely China) would join up with warriors in the Middle East to take on western nations and their allies.

Nostradamus must have known that connecting 9/11 to the next war with two 9/11 quatrains would be noticed in advance of the event, by others like myself, and that we would mention it to people, as well. But obviously, he also knew the event would still occur, despite knowing about it in advance.

So if I was to mention what the event would be, and it happened, some would claim it was due to them seeing this event interpreted by others, beforehand, and how it matches up with current events, they chose to make it happen, exactly the way some had 'interpreted' it!

And they'd also claim ALL SORTS of interpretations have been made over the centuries since then, so if one of them DOES seem to match up, it's entirely explained as 'random chance'!

It seems to me, that if one ACTUALLY DID KNOW that a terrible, horrific event was going to happen in the future, specifically, if the event was going to happen within THEIR OWN future, and in the future of all their loved ones, it would be very difficult to mention it, for many reasons.

What if mentioning it, causes it, or initiates it, or plays a part in it?

When people claim that if Nostradamus really saw future events, he would have described them in detail, given the exact dates of them, and we could later verify if they happened or not, and since he didn't do that, he's a fraud, or charlatan....

If he had told us that on Sept.11, 2001, two massive structures in NYC, will be pulverized to bits, and they'd blame it on a fictional 'King of Terror', and there'd be some people who demand to see proof of their claims.....

It would not have happened, obviously. Everyone in NYC on 9/11 would look at the towers all day, waiting for the big event to happen before their eyes. They'd all bring video cameras there, to film the big event. No people would be anywhere NEAR the buildings, let alone not IN them, on that day!


9/11 wouldn't have happened if Nostradamus directly had described the whole event, the actual date, and what time it started...that's why he didn't tell us directly, he told us in puzzles, symbolism, code, and mythology, all broken into 4 separate quatrains of the one, same event.

a reply to: Paperjacket

Nobody would argue if we denote Usama Bin Laden(UBL) as the King of Terror.

I would. There are terrorier kings than that.

a reply to: Paperjacket

Therefore "From the sky will come a great King of Terror" can be regarded as the description of 911. I think most of people would agree with me.

I don't know, it's hard for me to see a missile or an airplane, or just 'controlled demolition' (whichever it was) as sitting on the throne, barking orders at his minions and being served caviar and cake.

a reply to: Paperjacket

There's so much assumption and conjecture in your post, it's pure interpretation at the end. The only relatively 'seemingly accurate' part might be the 'comes from the sky', but it's possible nothing came from the sky actually. Then what?

The 'good luck' doesn't really seem very obvious.

That's the problem with Nostradamus' predictions - they're SO vague, and so 'cryptically written', further messed up by interpretative translations from some ancient french or whatever, that you can't use them to predict future, you can only use them like faulty puzzle pieces to force them to fit what has already happened, and even then, it's never a perfect, tight fit.

They're so symbolic, too, you have to really dig deep to be able to say 'yes, he predicted this', and even then, it's interpretative and foggy.

I have to admit he almost got Hitler's name right, and THAT is pretty interesting a detail. However, most of it is just hindsight .. "ooh, he meant THAT event by saying this king would rule!"

Yeah, you can just pick and choose and make it fit almost anything if you search and interpret hard enough. Even if he -really- did predict the future, those predictions are still useless, as you can never know what he meant until after it has already happened, and even then, it's not 100%. So you are left with cryptic verses that are nonsensical until something happens, and then you can do this pick-n-choose game and prove.. nothing.

originally posted by: Shoujikina
That's the problem with Nostradamus' predictions - they're SO vague, and so 'cryptically written', further messed up by interpretative translations from some ancient french or whatever, that you can't use them to predict future, you can only use them like faulty puzzle pieces to force them to fit what has already happened, and even then, it's never a perfect, tight fit.

They're so symbolic, too, you have to really dig deep to be able to say 'yes, he predicted this', and even then, it's interpretative and foggy.

I have to admit he almost got Hitler's name right, and THAT is pretty interesting a detail. However, most of it is just hindsight .. "ooh, he meant THAT event by saying this king would rule!"

Yeah, you can just pick and choose and make it fit almost anything if you search and interpret hard enough. Even if he -really- did predict the future, those predictions are still useless, as you can never know what he meant until after it has already happened, and even then, it's not 100%. So you are left with cryptic verses that are nonsensical until something happens, and then you can do this pick-n-choose game and prove.. nothing.

The main problem is that so-called 'experts' are nothing but charlatans, who twist his words to make money off it.

I understand why you, and many, believe it can 'fit' into countless events, after they happen, based on these frauds, but you don't realize it is the frauds who twist things into other events, and that's the whole problem. It has to match his exact words, throughout, no twists, all of it has to work, word for word, as written, or it's nothing but garbage.

As I said earlier, it was originally written in French, so the quatrains must be taken from the exact French, before anything can work properly.

So in the case of 911 and Bin laden...

The year 1999 is simply reversed, into 9111. The 9 is the 9th month, September, the 11 is the 11th day of September, and the last 1 is the year ending in 1, which is 2001.

And "sept mois" means the Month of September, not the NUMBER seven, like 'experts' interpret it as.

Sept confirms the 9 as the month September, the 11 is the day, the last 1 is the FIRST year of the first millennium to come, after Nostradamus wrote the quatrains, in the 1500's.

So the date fits perfectly, when interpreted properly.

The "King of Terror" is meant sarcastically, that Bin Laden was SEEN as this "King of Terror", while it was completely made up, a fictional figure that was already dead, or near death, by 911. Nostradamus is poking fun at it, by referring to him as the "King of Terror"!

This is confirmed in the next line - saying that the "King of Terror" will "bring to life the great King of the Mongols", another fictional figure 'brought to life", later on, the same way the "King of Terror" was brought to life.


Nostradamus wrote about each event in sets of 4 quatrains, not in one or two of them. 911 is described in three other quatrains, as well, making it a set of 4 quatrains, same as all the other events are.

So along with the '1999' quatrain, we have 3 others, in a group of 4 quatrains on 911...

Second quatrain...

Century 1, Quatrain 87
Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
And then Arethusa (the waterer) will color a new river red.

The two great rocks are the Twin Towers, of course. They will be used as their reason for the 'war on terror' all over the world, as we've seen already.

The last line once again connects 9/11 to a new war, claimed to be led by a "King of Mongols", another fictional figure like Bin Laden was.

Third quatrain...

Century 6, Quatrain 97
At forty-five degrees, the sky will burn,
Fire approaches the great new city,
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have proof of the Normans.

Again, this matches 9/11 perfectly. The last line refers to people wanting proof that it was done by the 'Normans', which were terrorists in Nostradamus' time.


And the 4th quatrain...

10, Quatrain 49
Garden of the world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains,
It will be seized and plunged into the Vat,
Drinking by force the waters poisoned by sulfur.

Another perfect match, describing that the Towers will be "seized and plunged" from within, and releases sulfur into the waters as a result of being imploded.


We have to connect all 4 quatrains together in one group, to match each event described by Nostradamus here. Taking only one or two quatrains leads one to many false conclusions, multiple conflicts, and so forth.



I've found that out myself, when I did my own interpretation of his work. I found 4 quatrains that describe the Apollo moon landing as a hoax, and conclusive proof will be discovered in 2255, if I'm correct, causing a great scandal, never known before, and people will finally know the horrific truth....

originally posted by: Paperjacket
Nostradamus may have predicted 911 precisely in his Les Propheties.

Century X, LXXII
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror,
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

Nobody would argue if we denote Usama Bin Laden(UBL) as the King of Terror. 911 was indeed an attack from the sky. Therefore "From the sky will come a great King of Terror" can be regarded as the description of 911. I think most of people would agree with me.

The final sentence "Before and after Mars to reign by good luck" is also easy to understand. Before 911, the US had begun air strikes against al-Qaeda bases in countries such as Afghanistan and Sudan. After 911, the War on Terror defined an era of continous wars.

The first question, however, is that 911 happened in Sep. 2001, not Jul. 1999. The apparent difference hurts the credibility of his prophecy. But this is one of few quatrains he named a specific year. Why would he take this risk? As we know, some of his quatrains were about one incident, some were about an era. Maybe there were something in Jul. 1999 related to 911. According to "911 commission report", The original idea of using plane as a weapon to attack the US came from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed(KSM), the idea had not raised UBL's attention until the end of 1998. UBL then met with KSM in the spring of 1999 for several times to discuss the possibility and in the fall of 1999, four terrorists had begun their training for the mission. Therefore we can come to the conclusion that sometime in the summer of 1999, UBL made his important decision to attack the US using planes. Maybe Nostradamus tried to tell us that it was July 1999.

Still, why Nostradamus wrote down "To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols"? Does it have any relationship with 911? No, I don't think it has any direct relationship with 911, but it represents one of the most important characteristics of the era after 911 and we may say it is one of the major results of the War on Terror: the rise of China. From 2001, China has got an opportunity to gain support from the west by supporting the wars. By the time when Xi took the power in 2012, China has become the second largest economy in the World.

Yes, UBL made the critical decision in the summer of 1999
Yes, 911 did happened
Yes, China became another superpower
Yes, The war continued for decades.
Nostradamus DID predicted 911 and the aftermath.

(the son of man is, called, "life and resurrection", under the gospel's law)
(the son of man = infinity, humanity = zero-a king of terror)

*Accurate Prophecy (thinking)
Century X, LXXII
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror,
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.


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(1999 Opposition of Mars............2001 Opposition of Mars.............)



(2022 Opposition of Mars)

Don't view this information as a Prophecy, we will talk about Prophecy below and the end date for 2022

Current 2022 Prophecy (Nostradamus 1999 Expanded)
Current 2022 Prophecy (Nostradamus 1999 Expanded)


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(The Month of July is Important, Mean/Medium Measurement to Solar Declination, its a value of 0 on a scale technically)



The First Position we highlighted with a Purple Square represents the Month of July @ zero degrees mean, in solar declination for earth
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The Second Position we highlighted represents the Month of September............(1970 to 1991 UFO Guardian = 21 Years).............21 Years from 9/11/2001 is September of 2022 (earth couldn't observed or missed the first 21 year argument).
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The Second Position we highlighted is Zero Degrees Solar Declination for Month of September (notice the curve with the first purple square goes back to position zero, if you go across from our second purple square
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the UFO GUARDIAN, reports Nostradamus Prophecy in accuracy...............only the Month of September is valid for an action, or that is when the event of the two witnesses are resolved (the pyramid builder and his soulmate, are given wives.............understand? pyramid builders are born without souls and cannot take wives accordingly its a function of their soulmates) (god blesses that family, not on planet earth, the human dirth charge is unprofitable).

(this year September 2022, is current answer)