The reason I doubt covid-19 was made in a lab and why I think so.

If I were to weaponize a virus, I would certainly use a rhinovirus as the backbone.

First of all, rhinovirus is extremely common, accounting for most of common cold. That means every person on the planet catches it at least a few times a year.

Second, it's extremely small. At 30 nm, not even N95 mask can stop half of the viral particles entering it.

Third, it is extremely durable. Without an envelop, it is resistant to heat and soap, detergent, hand sanitizer. Indeed, more than half of rhinovirus infection is caused by people touching their faces with fingers contaminated with viral particles. And, as we all know, old habits die hard. You just can't mandate people stop touching their faces. This habit is genetically unique to humans. After millions of years of co evolution with rhinovirus, humans are genetically inclined to touch their faces to self inoculate with rhinovirus as protection from potentially lethal viruses like flu which are blocked by fast immune response triggered by rhinovirus. This is so because flu suppresses immune response which makes it potentially lethal.

Fifth, as an RNA virus with a tiny genome, it has very high mutation rate, which means no country would be able to effectively develop a vaccine to counter.

So if I were to make a bioweapon virus, the best candidate is to do a rhinovirus gain of function, enabling it to infect the lungs more. Even a small death rate, say 0.1 percent, translate to a huge total deaths number, considering rhinovirus easily infects hundreds of millions in the US within a given year, and there is no efficient way to stop it. This sows panic much more than coronavirus, even if gained of function one, can ever do.

Here are some articles talking about why rhinovirus is not affected by lockdown the way other viruses such as coronaviruses and flu viruses are:

Rhinovirus rampant or testing triumphant?

How COVID-19 is changing the cold and flu season

And as you can see in the data in the link below, rhinovirus cannot be halted by lockdowns, masks etc.

Res piratory Virus Report, week 33 - ending August 21, 2021

It does not need to be weaponized to be out of a lab. They could have used GOF work for research, done in a lab.

a reply to: amazingexplorer

You are saying that because you would have used blue LEGO blocks to build it and they only had green LEGO blocks, they did not go ahead and build it with the green ones? Is that it? Is that logical?

a reply to: amazingexplorer

I doubt Covid was meant to be a weapon as much as it was the catalyst to get viruses to jump species.

The new cross species viruses created using what they learned from Covid would be the bioweapon.

a reply to: amazingexplorer

That fact that you agree that no one would be able to make a vaccine for it is the reason why they weaponized corona instead.
Because - it’s 100% all about the vaccine before they even unleashed it. And it can’t be too scary or they might get hurt too. So, they use fear and propaganda to get YOU to inject the real killer.

well great.
now everyone is making bio-weapons in their kitchen

a reply to: amazingexplorer

What function would you add? I just realized most viruses or maybe all of them researched for weaponization are enveloped. I never noticed that until now.

You have some major disadvantages though with this, small genome, mostly for structure and RdRp support. Exposed antigen sites in the icosahedron. Prone to mutation so you could lose your enhancements. No host cell membrane incorporation.

It is resistant but still ionic bonds which are susceptible to disinfectants and moisture/evaporation but resistant to heat, simple chemicals, and UV.

It’s nasty in people with asthma and allergies via the ICAM pathway but I think secondary infection is the culprit usually. Plus with it targeting antigen presenting cells and alerting the innate responses leading to adaptive cell presentation your time is limited.

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: amazingexplorer

That fact that you agree that no one would be able to make a vaccine for it is the reason why they weaponized corona instead.
Because - it’s 100% all about the vaccine before they even unleashed it. And it can’t be too scary or they might get hurt too. So, they use fear and propaganda to get YOU to inject the real killer.

Yup. That's how the CCP implemented draconian authoritarianism in China following the Hong Kong protests last year in 2019.

a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

Another explanation. Mother Nature made it. After all, Mother Nature made humans. Why wouldn't Mother Nature be able to make covid-19? Whatever you can think so, I think Mother Nature can come up with. Humans often underestimate the power of Mother Nature, who every once in a while reminds humans who is boss.

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

Another explanation. Mother Nature made it. After all, Mother Nature made humans. Why wouldn't Mother Nature be able to make covid-19? Whatever you can think so, I think Mother Nature can come up with. Humans often underestimate the power of Mother Nature, who every once in a while reminds humans who is boss.

That is what I was suggesting, except with a few more specific details thrown in.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

Another explanation. Mother Nature made it. After all, Mother Nature made humans. Why wouldn't Mother Nature be able to make covid-19? Whatever you can think so, I think Mother Nature can come up with. Humans often underestimate the power of Mother Nature, who every once in a while reminds humans who is boss.

That is what I was suggesting, except with a few more specific details thrown in.

Mother Nature can do things you can't even imagine. Mother Nature can make creatures literally out of thin air. Let's say covid-19. To you humans it is incomprehensible. To Mother Nature it's just another day in the kitchen.

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

Another explanation. Mother Nature made it. After all, Mother Nature made humans. Why wouldn't Mother Nature be able to make covid-19? Whatever you can think so, I think Mother Nature can come up with. Humans often underestimate the power of Mother Nature, who every once in a while reminds humans who is boss.

That is what I was suggesting, except with a few more specific details thrown in.

Mother Nature can do things you can't even imagine. Mother Nature can make creatures literally out of thin air.

It's a bit more complex than that.

Even on the quantum level, you still don't get something from nothing.

That's the problem with all these pre-big bang theoretical particles being created from quantum fluctuations. You still need forces, and specifically mass, to cause symmetry breaking, and to prevent antihalation of oppositely charged vparticles.

No amount of 'nothing' is enough to cause something.

Let's say covid-19. To you humans it is incomprehensible. To Mother Nature it's just another day in the kitchen.

But I comprehend a few things about it. So to us humans it is at least partially comprehensible.

I dunno, the arrogance of some hyperintelligent charged plasma entities, who think we can't think, just because we are made entirely out of meat.



THEY'RE MADE OUT OF MEAT

A ONE ACT PLAY by Terry Bisson

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

Another explanation. Mother Nature made it. After all, Mother Nature made humans. Why wouldn't Mother Nature be able to make covid-19? Whatever you can think so, I think Mother Nature can come up with. Humans often underestimate the power of Mother Nature, who every once in a while reminds humans who is boss.

That is what I was suggesting, except with a few more specific details thrown in.

Mother Nature can do things you can't even imagine. Mother Nature can make creatures literally out of thin air.

It's a bit more complex than that.

Even on the quantum level, you still don't get something from nothing. That's the problem with all these pre-big bang particles being created from quantum fluctuations. You still need forces, and specifically mass, to cause symmetry breaking, and to prevent antihalation of oppositely charged vparticles. No amount of 'nothing' is enough to cause something.

Let's say covid-19. To you humans it is incomprehensible. To Mother Nature it's just another day in the kitchen.

But I comprehend a few things about it. So to us humans it is at least partially comprehensible.

I dunno, the arrogance of some hyperintelligent charged plasma entities, who think we can't think, just because we are made entirely out of meat.

THEY'RE MADE OUT OF MEAT

A ONE ACT PLAY by Terry Bisson

Well, Mother Nature created universe out of nothing. So, never count Mother Nature out.

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

Another explanation. Mother Nature made it. After all, Mother Nature made humans. Why wouldn't Mother Nature be able to make covid-19? Whatever you can think so, I think Mother Nature can come up with. Humans often underestimate the power of Mother Nature, who every once in a while reminds humans who is boss.

That is what I was suggesting, except with a few more specific details thrown in.

Mother Nature can do things you can't even imagine. Mother Nature can make creatures literally out of thin air.

It's a bit more complex than that.

Even on the quantum level, you still don't get something from nothing. That's the problem with all these pre-big bang particles being created from quantum fluctuations. You still need forces, and specifically mass, to cause symmetry breaking, and to prevent antihalation of oppositely charged vparticles. No amount of 'nothing' is enough to cause something.

Let's say covid-19. To you humans it is incomprehensible. To Mother Nature it's just another day in the kitchen.

But I comprehend a few things about it. So to us humans it is at least partially comprehensible.

I dunno, the arrogance of some hyperintelligent charged plasma entities, who think we can't think, just because we are made entirely out of meat.

THEY'RE MADE OUT OF MEAT

A ONE ACT PLAY by Terry Bisson

Well, Mother Nature created universe out of nothing. So, never count Mother Nature out.

But surely nature is the universe. If there is nothing, there isn't nature, either. What you suggests breaks causality.

Mother nature is laying eggs everywhere. Father nature says that you still dont understand viruses...
Viruses are exosomes. When my nose is stuffed by concrete dust from spending all day on construction site, my sinuses in stress release exosomes to get more moisture. If your nasal passages come in contact with my exosomes you may get runny nose without the concrete dust part. If you have runny nose you are probably in contact with people who live in overheated houses with dry air during the winter. Or your micro-climate is mild but I spend most of the day outside bellow freezing. The wrong information is shared as everything else including fecal bacteria. They've found mostly fecal bacteria on shopping carts btw. It's the nature of nature. It's dirty. Growing from dirt, eating dirt, pooping dirt, breathing dirt. Can we stop with the germophobia? It's a leftist business. In my zucking country I have to pay the insurance even when I have no job or anything to eat. That's how they rule the planet by now. #in matriarchy

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: amazingexplorer

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: amazingexplorer

It's simpler than that.

SARS-CoV-2 does not infect bats. It is a human specific virus.

RaGT13, the bat virus most similar to SARS-CoV-2, does not infect humans. It is a bat specific virus.

That is the situation we see right now, after any such zoonosis might have occurred. If we found the virus very early after it crossed species, how could it be that it doesn't infect both species?

For a virus to cross species like that, it has to initially infect both species quite well, for the virus to gain a 'population foothold' in the second species, to mutate from (a process that implies several iterations of evolutionary adaptation in the host species, and also loss of traits that could infect the source species, something that would be more likely on the scale of decades).

Because the primary means of infection has to do with the specific type of ACE2 receptor, and furan bonding method, which is different in bats and humans. They cannot have come from each other, without decades of some intermediary virus from which they must have both descended.

Even gain of function research would require vast populations of the infected to be able to bring off two such species specific trait feats. No lab on Earth is resourced enough to do research on that scale. Even with direct genomic manipulation, specifically directed to weaponize such a virus, it is hardly likely to be possible. And what of the fact that it also doesn't infect bats? Was that engineered as 'loss of function' at the same time? Why would that have been done at all?

What is likely is that the virus already existed in human populations unidentified (perhaps assumed to be 'just another cold or flu') until it acquired a mutation that made it pathogenic. Once we saw numbers of people dying of the same symptoms, we actually looked for the virus at the root cause, and due to technological advances, we found it fairly quickly.

Another explanation. Mother Nature made it. After all, Mother Nature made humans. Why wouldn't Mother Nature be able to make covid-19? Whatever you can think so, I think Mother Nature can come up with. Humans often underestimate the power of Mother Nature, who every once in a while reminds humans who is boss.

That is what I was suggesting, except with a few more specific details thrown in.

Mother Nature can do things you can't even imagine. Mother Nature can make creatures literally out of thin air.

It's a bit more complex than that.

Even on the quantum level, you still don't get something from nothing. That's the problem with all these pre-big bang particles being created from quantum fluctuations. You still need forces, and specifically mass, to cause symmetry breaking, and to prevent antihalation of oppositely charged vparticles. No amount of 'nothing' is enough to cause something.

Let's say covid-19. To you humans it is incomprehensible. To Mother Nature it's just another day in the kitchen.

But I comprehend a few things about it. So to us humans it is at least partially comprehensible.

I dunno, the arrogance of some hyperintelligent charged plasma entities, who think we can't think, just because we are made entirely out of meat.

THEY'RE MADE OUT OF MEAT

A ONE ACT PLAY by Terry Bisson

Well, Mother Nature created universe out of nothing. So, never count Mother Nature out.

But surely nature is the universe. If there is nothing, there isn't nature, either. What you suggests breaks causality.

Nature is far more than universe. Outside universe, there is nothing. Nothing can create universe. Universe cannot create nothing.

This argument is suspiciously similar to the Red Herring logical fallacy.

"I don't think COVID-19 was produced in a lab because it has many aspects that would make it a poor bio-weapon".

Are all biological laboratories producing nothing but bio-weapons?

Is gain of function research exclusively an applied science of bio-weapons?

Seems like a deflection tactic to me.

The incredibly coincidental occurrence of a very virulent pathogen popping up naturally in a wet market, in the shadow of one of China's highest level bio labs, in which it was known to be working with the pathogen, would be a very convenient story for all parties involved in the Wuhan lab research, including both the Chinese and some of their American patrons, among which is Fauci and the CDC.

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
This argument is suspiciously similar to the Red Herring logical fallacy.

"I don't think COVID-19 was produced in a lab because it has many aspects that would make it a poor bio-weapon".

Are all biological laboratories producing nothing but bio-weapons?

Is gain of function research exclusively an applied science of bio-weapons?

Seems like a deflection tactic to me.

The incredibly coincidental occurrence of a very virulent pathogen popping up naturally in a wet market, in the shadow of one of China's highest level bio labs, in which it was known to be working with the pathogen, would be a very convenient story for all parties involved in the Wuhan lab research, including both the Chinese and some of their American patrons, among which is Fauci and the CDC.

True, but if CPC wanted to reduce suspicion they can simply smuggle covid-19 to NYC in a small vial on a commercial flight and have an operative release it in NYC.

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
Mother nature is laying eggs everywhere. Father nature says that you still dont understand viruses...
Viruses are exosomes. When my nose is stuffed by concrete dust from spending all day on construction site, my sinuses in stress release exosomes to get more moisture. If your nasal passages come in contact with my exosomes you may get runny nose without the concrete dust part. If you have runny nose you are probably in contact with people who live in overheated houses with dry air during the winter. Or your micro-climate is mild but I spend most of the day outside bellow freezing. The wrong information is shared as everything else including fecal bacteria. They've found mostly fecal bacteria on shopping carts btw. It's the nature of nature. It's dirty. Growing from dirt, eating dirt, pooping dirt, breathing dirt. Can we stop with the germophobia? It's a leftist business. In my zucking country I have to pay the insurance even when I have no job or anything to eat. That's how they rule the planet by now. #in matriarchy

Viruses aren't exosomes. Nor are they bacteria. Nor does biology follow the dictates of political ideology.

Exosomes