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originally posted by: Torlin
Look at Iceland, they have over 90% vaccinated. HUGE spike in covid cases since the mass vaccination started: Iceland Covid Data
Obviously, vaccination is completely useless in stopping the infection or transmission. However, the number of severe cases is not as high, so maybe the vaccine does something good?
Based on those numbers it is clear that the vaccine doesn't do what it was promised to do: stop the infections and transmission.
what test is performed to distinguish delta from alpha?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: HawkEyi
Yes, Delta is more transmissible than Alpha. We know this.
Regarding the numbers from Israel: Here, I'll do the math for you even though it's pretty simple:
Let's say 10,000 Israelis who are tested each day. 650 infections gives a positivity rate of 4.5%, not unreasonable.
7,800 (78%) of them are vaccinated.
Let's say that 52% (more than 50%, right) of the cases are in the vaccinated group.
4% of the vaccinated group are infected. (338/7800 = 0.04)
14% of the unvaccinated group are infected (312/2200 = 0.14)
Which group is doing better?
I wonder which group has more in the hospital.
originally posted by: HawkEyi
The Mainstream News Media Outlets arent reporting What is Happening in Israel with The Vaxed.
If you go to google and search for what is happening elsewhere.
You would find it surprising that in Israel the situation is becoming interesting as there are more covid cases are rising.
Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine.
Israel’s sobering setback
Israel, which has led the world in launching vaccinations and in data gathering, is confronting a surge of COVID-19 cases that officials expect to push hospitals to the brink. Nearly 60% of gravely ill patients are fully vaccinated.
Israel's Grim Warning on Vaccinations
Strange. In the UK we were told the vaccine wouldn't stop transmission or infection, but would reduce serious symptoms.
originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: and14263
Strange. In the UK we were told the vaccine wouldn't stop transmission or infection, but would reduce serious symptoms.
Yet in Canada, in provinces you have the local media and local ADs lying to people saying to them if you get vaxed this would help prevent the transmission.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: HawkEyi
Yes, Delta is more transmissible than Alpha. We know this.
Regarding the numbers from Israel: Here, I'll do the math for you even though it's pretty simple:
Let's say 10,000 Israelis who are tested each day. 650 infections gives a positivity rate of 4.5%, not unreasonable.
7,800 (78%) of them are vaccinated.
Let's say that 52% (more than 50%, right) of the cases are in the vaccinated group.
4% of the vaccinated group are infected. (338/7800 = 0.04)
14% of the unvaccinated group are infected (312/2200 = 0.14)
Which group is doing better?
I wonder which group has more in the hospital.
originally posted by: dandandat2
As a vaccinated person myself, with a 0.04 chance of getting covid, why do I care much about the final fate of the unvaccinated?