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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Simple question...
How does a China Virus outbreak occur on a ship in the Caribbean...when ALL passengers and ALL crew have been "vaccinated"?
ARTICLE:
Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest and Staff Member Being ‘Vaccinated’
Somewhere near Cozumel in the Caribbean Sea, there’s a cruise ship that had zero unvaccinated people aboard but that still suffered an outbreak of Covid-19.
This goes against the narrative that the reason for “breakthrough cases” is due to too many unvaccinated people mingling with those who have taken the experimental injections.
The Carnival Vista, which departed from Galveston, Texas, on July 31, has issued strict face mask protocols and ordered infected people aboard into isolation.
thelibertydaily.com...
Seems like a floating experiment...which proves "vaccinated" infect "vaccinated".
Thoughts?
Explanations?
Excuses?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission or infection, it only amps your immune response so there's a substantially decreased probability of crippling symptoms. Same as any other vaccine (supposedly) which doesn't offer "sterilized immunity" but more like "disease resistance". You are not invincible while vaccinated.
You missed the point entirely. The dependence on vaccines that don’t work here is dangerous. People are being denied access to basic services like hospitals or grocery stores in parts of the world because they don’t have this vaccine to project them and others... that same vaccine that doesn’t actually work.
originally posted by: supermarket2012
Well, this shouldn't surprise anyone - as we already know from the case in Provinceton, Mass, where 75% of the infected were fully vaccinated, that you can still catch the Delta Variant even if you are vaccinated.
Remember, the viral load of the delta variant is 1000x that of previous variants. Its basically Super Strength Covid.
So, the latest data is showing that breakthrough cases are far more common than we initially thought - not because the vaccine is failing, but because the virus has mutated.
This was always a concern regarding vaccination when it comes to coronaviruses. They mutate so quickly, we knew there was a chance a variant would come along, and be more resistant to the vaccines.
There are two positives here:
1) While breakthrough infections are far more common with the delta variant than we had hoped, the vaccines are still EXTREMELY effective against getting seriously ill from coronavirus. In fact, over 95% of people now hospitalized with covid are unvaccinated. Same with deaths.
2) We can always develop boosters for out of control variants - and this will likely be the practice moving forward. Moderna has already stated their goal is to provide an annual booster shot, that will encompass protection from future covid variants as WELL as the flu! Pretty neat if you ask me.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: IAMTAT
Simple question...
How does a China Virus outbreak occur on a ship in the Caribbean...when ALL passengers and ALL crew have been "vaccinated"?
ARTICLE:
Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest and Staff Member Being ‘Vaccinated’
Somewhere near Cozumel in the Caribbean Sea, there’s a cruise ship that had zero unvaccinated people aboard but that still suffered an outbreak of Covid-19.
This goes against the narrative that the reason for “breakthrough cases” is due to too many unvaccinated people mingling with those who have taken the experimental injections.
The Carnival Vista, which departed from Galveston, Texas, on July 31, has issued strict face mask protocols and ordered infected people aboard into isolation.
thelibertydaily.com...
Seems like a floating experiment...which proves "vaccinated" infect "vaccinated".
Thoughts?
Explanations?
Excuses?
Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission or infection, it only amps your immune response so there's a substantially decreased probability of crippling symptoms. Same as any other vaccine (supposedly) which doesn't offer "sterilized immunity" but more like "disease resistance". You are not invincible while vaccinated.
originally posted by: Salander
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: IAMTAT
Simple question...
How does a China Virus outbreak occur on a ship in the Caribbean...when ALL passengers and ALL crew have been "vaccinated"?
ARTICLE:
Covid Outbreak Hits Carnival Cruise Despite Every Guest and Staff Member Being ‘Vaccinated’
Somewhere near Cozumel in the Caribbean Sea, there’s a cruise ship that had zero unvaccinated people aboard but that still suffered an outbreak of Covid-19.
This goes against the narrative that the reason for “breakthrough cases” is due to too many unvaccinated people mingling with those who have taken the experimental injections.
The Carnival Vista, which departed from Galveston, Texas, on July 31, has issued strict face mask protocols and ordered infected people aboard into isolation.
thelibertydaily.com...
Seems like a floating experiment...which proves "vaccinated" infect "vaccinated".
Thoughts?
Explanations?
Excuses?
Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission or infection, it only amps your immune response so there's a substantially decreased probability of crippling symptoms. Same as any other vaccine (supposedly) which doesn't offer "sterilized immunity" but more like "disease resistance". You are not invincible while vaccinated.
So do you mean that all those who've taken the shots have exposed themselves to dangerous drugs for no gain, no advantage?
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
I'm trying to get clarification. The OP says that everybody on the ship had been vaccinated.
Several posters claim that is untrue. If they are correct and it is untrue, I would like to know how many individuals on the ship were not vaccinated?
Maybe I missed the number of unvaccinated. Can you point me in the right direction?
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
I'm trying to get clarification. The OP says that everybody on the ship had been vaccinated.
Several posters claim that is untrue. If they are correct and it is untrue, I would like to know how many individuals on the ship were not vaccinated?
Maybe I missed the number of unvaccinated. Can you point me in the right direction?
Seems like the operators not saying but CDC rule is that 95% need to be vaccinated.
Most articles refer to unvaccinated guests so seems OP is false.
OP has provided nothing to back the claim that the ship was "all vaccinated".
originally posted by: Reincarnation
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Yes. Covid has been around a long time. Research it.
originally posted by: Salander
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
I'm trying to get clarification. The OP says that everybody on the ship had been vaccinated.
Several posters claim that is untrue. If they are correct and it is untrue, I would like to know how many individuals on the ship were not vaccinated?
Maybe I missed the number of unvaccinated. Can you point me in the right direction?
Seems like the operators not saying but CDC rule is that 95% need to be vaccinated.
Most articles refer to unvaccinated guests so seems OP is false.
OP has provided nothing to back the claim that the ship was "all vaccinated".
Given the emerging data, it's highly likely all aboard were inoculated.
Many countries including the US are showing data that the higher the rate of inoculation, the higher the rate of infection. Not death, infection.
It will be a cold day in hell with Anthony Fauci and his mindless followers ever admit that the shots don't work.
Not only don't work, they bring more infection.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
There will always be viruses. You can't exterminate them. That's why we have.....vaccines?