Was 4, know 6 ships lose control in the Gulf of Oman.

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: Mantiss2021

An EMP would not have selectively knocked out a ship's ability to steer while sparing its ability to communicate that it was not long "under command

That was my thought too. But to a point, those ships clearly had power issues. But how?

What would it take, and would it even be possible, to foul the propellers, maybe using a heavy chain or some other device?


Added advantage: It would be very difficult to prove responsibility for the sabotage.

originally posted by: Bigburgh
How in the hell are they able to get these ships to lose it's power? An E.M.P. ?

Far more likely to be some kind of hack of their electronic control systems.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

What would it take, and would it even be possible, to foul the propellers, maybe using a heavy chain or some other device?

Sure but an alarm would have gone off notifying the crew of some sort of collision.

And if that was the case, those whom did it has ballz of gold going up against those proppeller's 😥😥😥

Edit: nothing is off the table though as of yet.

a reply to: tanstaafl

This has come up over and over on other media

The old 5 part movie series , "Countdown to Looking Glass" ?

a reply to: Gothmog

Scott Glenn is a notable PittsBurgher..

I see where your headed.

Everything is quiet at the moment.

I hate silence.

a reply to: Bigburgh

Everything is quiet at the moment. I hate silence.

Silence always comes before the storm .

I recall several years ago that the gps system was jammed and spoofed and was able to cause issues with communications and navigation. Does any of the issues that happened today relate to the use of the gps system?

I think you guys are looking into this too hard.

It's likely ONE ship was attacked, and maritime forces (from wherever) stopped the surrounding ships to either protect or looking for the aggressor.

The UK Maritime Trade Organisation, which first revealed something had happened to the Asphalt Princess, said in an update on its website: "Boarders have left the vessel. Vessel is safe. Incident complete."
news.sky.com...

I'm no expert on this subject and I have to say I've learnt quite a bit reading through this thread.

Just floating the idea that could this be as a result of some sort of hack by Russian hacker groups aligned to international pirates etc?

Why would Iran deliberately provoke the international community?

Who benefits from the blame being cast on Iran?

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
Getting interesting

Russia is still pouring hardware into Crimea and eastern Ukraine

Iran keeps humping legs for attention and shortly will get a huge response, but not a war

But the real threat and danger is in the south Chiba sea

Oh and COVID19 is a bio weapon, just waiting for the tip/warhead to be activated

Boy oh boy if WWIII kicks of it’s going to be insanely lethal

What if Russia took Ukraine and at the same time China took Taiwan? This all happens as Iran is saying, hey look over here !! There has been a lot of chest pounding lately.

All I know is is that war between Iran and Israel is going to break out soon. The rhetoric keeps increasing. I would think by the end of the year, but I can’t say for sure. Definitely by the end of Biden’s first term. Israel feels Iran is an existential threat. The nuclear treaty Biden is trying to get back into with Iran only empowers Iran. Israel feels it has no other choice but to strike Iran’s nuclear programme.

a reply to: Tim86

It's been that way for the past 50 odd years or so, Israel seeing Iran is an existential threat.

And the rhetoric always keeps increasing.

Would not be the first time Israel decided to set back Iran’s nuclear programme nether.

I don't see a full blown conflict materialising all the same because Israel cannot invade Iran and hold the place anymore the western powers could put boots on the ground and invade the nation in any sort of meaningful manner just down to the terrain and logistics involved.

Iran simply is not Iraq, and a different kettle of fish all together.

Its a mugs game, and sabre rattling aside, i think both sides know that just fine.

All they would end up with is another long hard and protracted slog, that 10 years down the line would result in us going back home, whilst breeding more hatred and discontent, so pretty much Afghanistan all over again in spades.

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: Bigburgh

I believe that “not under command” means that the rudder is not responding to commands from the helm. Could just mean that someone physically jammed or disabled the rudders of these ships.

The question is why is Iran doing this at this particular time?

I think it has to have something to do with the negotiations to restore limitations on their nuclear program. Seems like they either want to scuttle those negotiations entirely or come out the other side with a better deal (I.e., fewer sanctions).

That sounds like mutiny.

originally posted by: montybd
I recall several years ago that the gps system was jammed and spoofed and was able to cause issues with communications and navigation. Does any of the issues that happened today relate to the use of the gps system?

yeah,the US ship they claimed they did that to was not effected at all,and just let them fly around because they knew the aircraft were not stupid enough to fire on them.

originally posted by: putnam6
Makes me wonder was the Evergreen was a test run?

Have you heard of The Golden Ray?