Appeals court rules 21-year minimum age for handgun purchases is unconstitutional

originally posted by: john34555
a reply to: SlapMonkey

so when is drinking beer legal how about smoking ?

They should be...but I can't answer your question. The government, IMO, should not be able to regulation what adults (18+) put into our own bodies. Period.

a reply to: john34555

That makes me laugh. About eight years ago I was an officer at a social club. One night we had a kid ring the bell and we hit the buzzer to let him in. We had parents who would let their kids play at a nearby arcade and then come to the club to get a ride home. The kid comes in and is looking for his Uncle. He does a great job of keeping things going for a bit. In the mean time two of his friends who snuck in with the buzzer are in the back room stuffing the cigarette machine full of quarters. They got out of there before we knew what was going on. It was only after we looked at the video from the back room camera that we realized what had happened. A couple of the guys wanted to call the police, but, I said that since they pulled off such a beautiful operation they deserved to win that one. We did move the machine into the main room.

a reply to: JIMC5499

Yep. Sometimes you just have to acknowledge a well planned operation.

Working in retail, I sometimes just had to bow my head in respect when we'd get got...

This is a good one. I was reading at the Reason website that this entire thing could become a moot point. One of the Plaintiffs in this has already turned 21 and there's a good chance that the other could do the same before this case is heard by a higher Court.
reason.com...

Talk about an easy way out for the Court.

There is no other "right" or "freedom", that is more important, than the "right" to vote. With a single vote, (supposedly), you can help deside the fate of your nation.

What age can an American vote? 18 years. You can be drafted, trained for war, handed a weapon and be told to go kill the enemies of your overlords. Along with the "right" to vote at 18 years old, that's asking a lot of an 18 year old.

But ironically an actual "enumerated right" like the 2nd. Amendment is not extended to the age group that would bare the brunt of any major war.

If the commie left thinks they, (18 yr old) can be responsible enough to "vote" (the right way). Or be responsible enough to be trained to kill to protect their estates, from their enemies, for their little "Democracy" minds.
Then all unalienable "RIGHTS" are and belong to the "voter". The leftists are the same idiots that want to give a 16 year old the right to vote.
But you can't buy a beer or a rifle/pistol, untill you're 21?

So children that can not exercise "full freedom" are going to "vote" for "political idiaoligies" and politicians that actively work against the matured voter?

Either the PTB do not take "voting" seriously. Or they do, and can a circus out of "Democracy". Which they do. Because we let them.

If you're old enoigh to vote and deside the fate of your country. You're old enough to exercise all "enumerated rights" and the ones not enumerated.

If the left doesn't like that idea. The voting, draft and age of responsibility, should be whatever age they feel like monkeying around with.

Cigs and alcohol? Fine!... 21 it is!
But thatshould be the voting age.

Actually the Fed government has no business regulating firearms. That, this was prohibited by the 2nd. Amendment. That "right" was "expressly" "given to the States".
In fact, the C.O.T.U.S. told the Fed Government, "shall not be infringed".
It's a basic read and doesn't take a "lawyer", or a guy in a black nightgown with a wood mallet to explain that part of "the law". It was written so any idiot could understand.

I've always had a problem with having to be 21 for anything. The main argument is that you are NOT responsible enough. I was a Second Class Petty Officer (E-5) in the Navy. I was in charge of ten men who worked in the shop where I was the Supervisor. I was responsible for helping to maintain six helicopters and was on a team that loaded nuclear weapons on those aircraft, two months BEFORE I turned 21. At that time the push was on to raise the drinking age in ALL states to 21. I was grandfathered in the State where I was stationed, but, my home State didn't consider me responsible enough to drink a beer.

a reply to: JIMC5499

Most modern Americans could make a crude dirty bomb but god help you if you have a rifle only 25 inches long.

Or, you can walk around most states with 4 oz of weed and only pay a fine, but if a 20 year old buys a pack of Marlboros...people can go to jail.

a reply to: JIMC5499

Thank you for your service.
I would think at least a few Sailors under your command, were at least two or three years older?

As a Staff Sergeant,
I had a few Soldiers in the Army that were older than me, but I was responsible for them. Go figure.
I did consider their age and experience to be an asset in some cases.

This arbitrary age nonsense, is nonsense.

Voting is the most sacred and dangerous "right" a citizen could have. According to the "We're a "Democracy" and "Every vote should count" crowd. It's the most lethal weapon and the only "individual right" that shouldn't be regulated into a privilege.

The folks that would vote against them? They try to make "laws" to make them "felons".

If one can vote and deside the fate of our Republic. Or be drafted to defend our Republic. I can see no reason they should be "lawyered" out of any rights that belong to them.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

This is one reason why anythinghing Socialism is a horable idea. And why TPTB push it so much.
Other people's bad choices, becomes everyone's bad choices. Everyone pays for it.

But we're a "Democracy" not "Socialism".
The only difference is? In a "The people's Socialist Government" the government pays for your "healthcare". In a "Democracy"? They pass a "law" requiring you to have health insurance, so you pay for eachother. Doesn't matter if you ever use, or need it. But, but!??!! ... That's not socialism!...Yes, it is. TPTB get their "healthcare" paid for by you, anyway.
Don't forget, they continue to get paid for work, even after they get "voted out of office" (fired).

Kind of like manditory auto insurance. Do you drive around running into people? Or do you travel like the serious business it is?..."But I want to have my car replaced if someone runs in to me"😭 Okay good, I get that. So you should insure your automobile, or it should be required by law, that if you want money/compensation for engaging in a risk? You should buy/purchase auto insurance, incase someone runs into you.... Not because you will run into them. Life is a risk.

I had a girl run a Stop Sign, I smacked her driver side car good, broadside. Her head was trying to come through the passenger side, front window. I stayed with her till all the "authority" showed up. I made the "police report". I walked away from it. The negligent girl did not. My truck was totaled.

The very next day, I had three different "lawyers" calling me, telling me how much "money", I could get if I let them "make a case". I never called a lawyer, or said anything to anyone, other than a "police report".
My wife at the time was angry with me, because in her mind? I failed to understand the monetary potential, that ran the stop sign in front of me. Her mother, that was also a cop, was angry with me also.... Meh! Whatever.

Not everyone can be a real American, like me. I have come to a comfortable understanding of this...

Do you buy home owners insurance for your neighbors house? No? Yes you do! It is all calculated into your rates. You most likely, will never need it. Life is a risk.


The only people that gain anything from these "laws" are the Insurance companies, banks, the stock market and the politicians that play the stock market...

And the "lawyers" that have "an ear to the rails", "for you". For a nominal fee.

a reply to: murphy22

Thanks. The way things were when I finished High School the only option that I had was the military. Actually they were not under my command. In the Navy only an officer can command. They were around 6 to 10 years older than me.

A funny thing about that is that my current supervisor was born the year that I got out of the Navy.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

why