who you gonna call

first of all just want to give a shout out to all the chubacabras out there in the hinter lands

i want to think about what we can do proactively to figure some of this out and put us in a good position going forward, so let me start with some questions

1. are there sap or unacknowledged sap programs that deal with the ufo subject? where are these programs located? what do these programs consist of? who are the public officials who operate them? who is allowed to know about them? and how can congress members get access to them?

2. do aerospace companies have ufos or their material in their possesion? under what law are they allowed to have that? if humans obtain ufos or their material who is the rightful owner? if the govt hands over ufos to these companies who is considered the rightful owner?

3. we know the navy has had many encounters with ufos over the last many years but how long has this been happening? have they been swarmed by these 6 ft metal balls for decades or? what about the other branches? when can we have their data? im sure they have their own encounters, everything should be wholeistic with this phenomenon

4. what about cattle mutilations? crop circles? abductions? etc., does the govt have data in regards to these aspects what about artefacts on nearby planets and our moon? we should try to comprehend the whole picture if it exists

finally id like to think of some ways we can participate, people say why are we depending on the govt for the facts and truth? i dont think we are, we just want the data theyve collected for decades and that we paid for and some unknown unnamed public bureaucrats seem to not want to give it to us, were hoping theyll learn their role and begin to find ways to work with the public on this issue, anyway heres some thoughts on what we can do

1. govt needs a dept that solely deals with all aspects of ufos thats well staffed and well funded, they should collect all ufo data from every source available to them, analyze it, put it into overview summary and release it to the public minus s & m, the publics schools and scientists and physicists and engineers etc. will be able to study and theorize over time and who knows might help produce our versions of outer space flight and travel the stars

2. the public can collect its own data but its going to be much harder since the govts military draws the ufos to them, the public would have to set up near hot spots around the world and try to use high powered cameras to capture the ufos if they show up at all in those areas, i would think infrared would help too but the wide view telescopic set up might be one of the best ways, maybe even try to summon them i dont know

whatever the govt does or the public does we need a world wide dragnet if you will to capture as much data as possible in which you can never have to much in regards to ufos, so the question of the day why are they here if they are here in your opinion?

They are here for their own purpose/interests. It remains to be seen if that aligns with ours long term. The thing that’s most interesting to me is the rules they seem to follow with regard to disclosure.

If you operate on the idea that the story about a former US President meeting with the ETs and guaranteeing not to officially disclose their existence is true where does that bring you? Is it possible within the confines of a US owned top secret area there is another sovereign country with its own government? Sort of like how tribal land exists within our country.

If you hide your secrets in a company that is based in a country that no one knows about it makes oversight impossible.

If so that would make it so every denial by our government could be true technically while maintaining positive control of the technology.

My question is if the phenomenon is accelerating...

Like, they've seen them every once in a while for decades.. But now they're seeing them every day. Like the pilot on 60 mins. said.. every single day.

Are the reports so frequent now that they have to disclose?

originally posted by: saskwatch
1. are there sap or unacknowledged sap programs that deal with the ufo subject? where are these programs located? what do these programs consist of? who are the public officials who operate them? who is allowed to know about them? and how can congress members get access to them?

The F-117A Nighthawk and B-2 Spirit were both SAP programs that were kept secret from the public before they were publicly announced, and I suspect both of those have generated some UFO reports though it's hard to say how many. There are numerous triangle reports though and either of those could have been reported as unfamiliar triangles, so would have been legitimate UFOs before they were announced publicly.

The people who know about modern day versions of those old SAP programs I suspect would not be allowed to talk about them, but there are aviation writers who look for clues in things like budgets that aren't completely hidden.

a reply to: saskwatch

1:
Good primer on SAP's and the like:
www.thedrive.com...

As indicated by Yellowfruit - SAP's can be anything not just aircraft.

If you parse out what would be required to deliver a Pais-esque HAUC.....you likely need Nukes 2.0 as a power source.
Whatever they developed after Nukes......is likely to be a DOE led SAP IMO as using it in a spaceship would probably fall out of successful (but less risky) conventional applications (missiles, bombs, directed energy applications etc).

2:
I cant think of any Aerospace company that has officially declared it has ET materials......but the US Army is currently in possession of what is described as a none terrestrial in origin , quantum wave-guide which exhibits inertial mass reducing properties - as recovered by TTSA: documents2.theblackvault.com...

3:
The Navy are all over this but if the last 50 years has shown us anything- they aren't sharing publicly.


4: Pass

If you want to do something (and are in the US)- contact your senator and demand they look into the CRADA.
There is no wriggle room on this.
Either the US army has been taken in by TTSA.....or they acquired this material from ET.

The only other option is someone on earth can make it and TTSA are using ET as a stalking horse for some future monetisation of the tech.



a reply to: canucks555

Widespread adoption of new sensing technology.......AESA for e.g.
Funnily enough one of ATS's former "ITK'ers" suggested this long before I heard anyone else say it.

I heard from multiple whistleblowers that they captured a ET called J-Rod, and this J-Rod was not "alien" but he was a human in the far far future. So I am and been for a while been leaning towards the "UFO´s" and "Aliens" are in fact time travelers.
Human time travelers that have learned how to manipulate gravity, space and time.

originally posted by: canucks555
Are the reports so frequent now that they have to disclose?

No, not really. From what I've always understood, UFO appearances happen all the time and have happened all the time for decades. The difference is in the reporting. Sometimes people report but most of the time they don't. Reporting goes up when there is UFO news in the media because people feel more comfortable about discussing it. But UFOs are a pretty regularly occurring thing except for the truly exceptional cases, which happen about once very five years or so (or less).

Besides, ain't nobody "disclosing" anything. Watch what they really say.