100th Anniversary Of The Tulsa Race Massacre.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: alldaylong

edit on 3-6-2021 by alldaylong because: Replied to wrong post.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
The Confederates were dEmocrats

That’s not disputed

Traitorous losers indeed. Still to this very day.

So you would have no problem with Confederate Monuments and Flags being taken down then ?

As they go against your political ideology.

a reply to: alldaylong

No, erasing history goes against my political ideology.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: alldaylong

No, erasing history goes against my political ideology.

So symbols of Nazi Germany should not have been removed then ?

originally posted by: alldaylong
So symbols of Nazi Germany should not have been removed then ?

We definitely should have had a couple of Hitler statues strategically placed around the country to remind people of the German-American Bund.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: alldaylong
So symbols of Nazi Germany should not have been removed then ?

We definitely should have had a couple of Hitler statues strategically placed around the country to remind people of the German-American Bund.

I can always rely on you for the ace comments.

originally posted by: alldaylong
I can always rely on you for the ace comments.

Well, it seems we forgot we had a bunch of Nazi f**** here leading up to WW2. Some of them even stuck around after that.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Scapegrace

So you have no problem with the removal of statues if Cofederate soldiers. I mean if it's pointless to remember a tragic event on its anniversary then it must be really pointless to continue memorializing a bunch of traitorous losers on a daily basis.

As long as we remove every memorial of every person who's ever done anything wrong, I'm OK with removing those statues. I guess that means removing every memorial of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who was president when Japanese Americans were interned in WWII. Joe Biden has said some pretty racist things, so no monuments for him. Thomas Jefferson (Louisiana Purchase) and James Madison (Father of the Constitution) were slave owners. Cesar Chavez was adamantly opposed to illegal aliens, so we'll have to rename an awful lot of streets and schools. Lincoln said he wouldn't have opposed slavery if it would have preserved the Union. Without Ulysses S. Grant, who once owned a slave, the Union might not have defeated the Confederacy.

The United States of America would never have existed without George Washington, another slave owner. If Washington had died or been captured, the War of Independence would have ended. Without Washington, there might well be no African Americans today, although slavery was rampant in the British Empire, so there might still have been widespread slavery in the South after the cotton gin was invented. You and I might never have existed without Washington. If the USA had never existed, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan might have won or at least remained in power. What nation or coalition could oppose Russia or China today? Maybe the EU, if it could have existed sans America, but I doubt it. It gets tricky when we demand perfection of our heroes and saviors.

a reply to: alldaylong

They have not removed all of them in Germany, precisely for that reason. But even if they had, no, not all of them should be removed. When you erase history you are doomed to repeat it.

I would also add that comparing the Civil War to nazi genocide is very disengenuous.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Exactly, I mean the New York times is still in operation and revered, after all.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
So I guess we shouldn't teach any history in schools then, since that was then and this is now, right?

a reply to: EternalShadow

How you teach history? That is the point. Do we report it or spin it? Do we report the times the Indians massacred people and act like nothing happened to ignite the spark on any side? History is full of back and forth on who rules the land. We were still barely united in 1920's. That we have survived to be equal is all that EVER mattered, till now.

What makes us great is our COTUS paved the path so the Black, or whomever would be treated as equal citizens with equal rights. Tell me where else that happened, please. And did it help the world or hurt it that we came together as one twice to defeat what had to be evil people?

Pardon me, but right there is your very own list proving which side that it is cramming more hate down our throats. I would say that tells me to retire your argument if it were mine.

Well, it is the same lying scum bag side. The same ones we have witness claim one lie right after another as "facts" pushing this "truth" for a reason. Just like the SNL Shark at the door with the candygram they change to the next lie if the 1st one didn't work.

I recall FDR said "Nothing in politics ever happens by accident. It always happens by design".

Who is willing to forget these things here?

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: jjkenobi
One side exploiting a tragedy from 100 years ago for political gains.

Alternatively it could be because it's a current news item.

www.bbc.com...

www.npr.org...

eu.usatoday.com...

time.com...

abc7.com...

www.essence.com...

www.japantimes.co.jp...

etc etc.

a reply to: Justoneman

If the links i provided to the story offend you, then hard luck.

I can't compensate for you being sensitive.

a reply to: alldaylong

You forgot to mention what happened between the time the blacks showed up and the whites left to get their guns. The blacks opened fire on all the whites and killed 10 of them. It was 1921, 44 years before segregation ended, what did they think was going to happen? Neither side was right in their decisions that day, but not surprisingly, only one side is crucified over the actions that were taken. Thanks, media, for reaching out to weak-minded people to continue driving the divide.

a reply to: LSU2018

The blacks opened fire on all the whites and killed 10 of them

That version depends on where you get your source of information.

a white man tried to disarm a black veteran, and a shot was fired. The riot began.

www.okhistory.org...

originally posted by: CJCrawley
a reply to: WUNK22

They do statistically commit a incredibly high amount of crime.

So it's okay to slaughter random blacks and burn down their businesses and homes?

Gotcha.

It must be, bLM and antifa do it every time they "peacefully protest" and the media mentions no word about it.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
Exactly, I mean the New York times is still in operation and revered, after all.

The New York Times was fairly conservative up to and including World War II and was not supportive of the Bund.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: alldaylong

Every culture has a history riddled with horrors.

Not making any excuses.

Just saying that America is not immune to having horrors that it's people have committed upon others.

If reparations help, then give them whatever they want.

Reparations will never help. That's a temporary fix like getting drunk after your girl did you wrong. Once the buzz wears off, you're back to square one. Quickest way to get over it is to put it all in your rearview and never look back. However, if you're using it as your crutch to drink then you'll never move on.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
They have not removed all of them in Germany...

They certainly have, there are zero statues of any of the Nazi Party leadership in Germany.

Whether you think that is right or wrong is another argument but there are none there as you claim.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: alldaylong

Every culture has a history riddled with horrors.

Not making any excuses.

Just saying that America is not immune to having horrors that it's people have committed upon others.

If reparations help, then give them whatever they want.

Reparations will never help. That's a temporary fix like getting drunk after your girl did you wrong. Once the buzz wears off, you're back to square one. Quickest way to get over it is to put it all in your rearview and never look back. However, if you're using it as your crutch to drink then you'll never move on.

I don't think we should ever put behind the horrors of the past, lest they be repeated. . .