More Navy encounters. This time in 2019 and with “drones”

I came across an interesting read. FOIA Navy documents showing repeated encounters in 2019 with “drones”.
I’ve had extensive experience with commercial drones. These certainly weren’t that (flight times, speeds and distances traveled rule that out)
Lots of details! Of course many here will just call this out as being heretofore unnamed human craft.
Of course.


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Is ATS on delay or in a time loop today?

What’s goin on up in hurr?

originally posted by: Pokenaut

I’ve had extensive experience with commercial drones. These certainly weren’t that (flight times, speeds and distances traveled rule that out)

If it's dark and you have an unknown number of Drones/UAVs with lights - it's not hard to spoof quantity, persistence or perceived co-ordinates for ground based observers using light as their primary reference.

Doing a low/slow reconnaissance with commercial type drones is absolutely what you'd expect from a US adversary.
You cant get within 100 NM using your conventional assets but if you can fit out an AUV/UUV to night launch commercial drones- everyone just thinks it's them pesky kids/aliens ( or so this article would suggest.....).

This is a weird one.

Crew members who saw the 2019 drones described them as “Tic Tac-shaped,” which is exactly how the Nimitz fighter pilots described their own perplexing UAVs in 2004.

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And this:

The ORV Alguita, a 50-foot catamaran, briefly a subject of interest in the official investigation
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Well that's odd as Fravor describes the "Tic~Tacs" as being (about) 40 feet long.

Fravor described it as about 40 feet long, shaped like a Tic Tac candy and with no obvious means of propulsion
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So if the witness is saying they were like the Tic~Tacs then how do you fit not one, but (at least) 4 40ftdrones on (pretty much) any ship? Let alone a 50 ft catamaran?

Of course, the witness could be bunk.. Or the drones are shaped like tic tacs and small?

Can anyone come up with a picture of a commerical (or military even) drone that resembles a Tic Tac?

What about these 40 ft. "drones" operating 100 miles away from land?

As I said, she's a funny one.

a reply to: canucks555

Fravors reported 40 ft length cant be used as an empirical unit of measurement whenever a journo decides to sex up his story with unattributed quotes featuring the words "tic tac".

"Crew members who saw the 2019 drones described them as “Tic Tac-shaped," is a rumour by virtue of it not having a source.

Compare this quote to the Kidds log FOIA which records SNOOPIE teams only observing singular red or white lights......

a reply to: Pokenaut

I know that he's somewhat tainted, but didn't George Adamski talk about aliens using small unmanned remote controlled crafts for conducting recon?

San nicolas island is the navy's Area 51.
it's used for offshore testing by nwc china lake.

And its not far from where this happened.

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There are a lot of experimental drones out there.
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Maybe there will be some fake unknown drone invasion that creates a new Patriot Act to combat the threat of unknown drones. Seems crazy they have no clue what they are, that seems like a lie.

originally posted by: Pokenaut

I came across an interesting read. FOIA Navy documents showing repeated encounters in 2019 with “drones”.
I’ve had extensive experience with commercial drones. These certainly weren’t that (flight times, speeds and distances traveled rule that out)
Lots of details! Of course many here will just call this out as being heretofore unnamed human craft.
Of course.


www.thedrive.com...

Looks like someone weoponized drones. This was a test probably by China and the US navy failed. Isis started using modified comercial drones, The battle for Mosul made it abundantly clear to the world that these relatively simple, commercially available and cheap weaponized drones weren't a novelty.

warontherocks.com...

The US needs to wake up U.S. military has let its short range air defense (SHORAD) capabilities wither on the vine. As can be seen in this attack instead of taking pictures should have shot the things down.

a reply to: dragonridr

Lasers kill drones real good.

On the other hand, observing capabilities can be motivation for restraint. And telling an adversary what you know about what they can do may not be a smart thing to do.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: dragonridr

Lasers kill drones real good.

True...but firing lasers at unidentified lights in none combat environments would require an unwieldy check list of target validation requirements.

The ability to tell whether someone is looking at you through a lens is a reality- so some sort of passive countermeasure based on light interference would likely be the chosen solution.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Plus, checking the buggers out is a good idea. Are they sending telemetry? What sort?

Disclosure, the big reveal? Nope. No way are we (they) going to broadcast what we know. Wouldn't be prudent. So it's a coverup, indeed. For good reason.