Chinese government orders shoot at any ships in their territorial Waters

Currently several main large fishing ships home by the Japanese are in Japanese Waters that are currently owned by the Chinese government according to the Chinese.
Chinese airplanes have been circulating those Japanese boats and now the Japanese coast guard Navy is now escorting fishing boats in what's once was Japanese fishing grounds and legally Japanese territorial Waters.
I hope the Japanese businessman their CEOs wake up but it's too late because Chinese will just confiscate their businesses in China and don't be surprised they confiscate their businesses in Taiwan also.
What is happening is that the Chinese Air Force is intimidating the Japanese Air Force and wearing down the Japanese airplanes and the pilots themselves they're playing mind games and also mechanical games with the Japanese military.
American spy ships while the airplanes actually aren't currently involved nor are the fighters American fighters off of Okinawa so they're just laying back and taking everything in analyzing everything they possibly can.

a reply to: musicismagic

I've got a friend in the Philippines. She's told me stories about the Chinese attacks on their fishing boats and the encroachment into their northern islands. It's rarely talked about, if at all in the media here, but it happens pretty much daily. They've sunk civilian fishing boats and other civilian craft.

If your op is the case, i'm guessing that means they're going to start shooting down any vessel in the region of those 'disputed' (China just claimed them despite them being part of the Philippines) islands also.

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: musicismagic

I've got a friend in the Philippines. She's told me stories about the Chinese attacks on their fishing boats and the encroachment into their northern islands. It's rarely talked about, if at all in the media here, but it happens pretty much daily. They've sunk civilian fishing boats and other civilian craft.

If your op is the case, i'm guessing that means they're going to start shooting down any vessel in the region of those 'disputed' (China just claimed them despite them being part of the Philippines) islands also.

I was just reading that the president of the Philippines is going to start charging the United States government money for I don't know I think something to do with their military bases that's your friend about that I lost the website concerning it.
But one thing's for sure though the Chinese if they do start shooting Japanese fishing boats the Japanese fisherman and keep in mind these fishermen are in their seventies and it's like a well it's very close community especially with a large I mean super large fishing boats I should call them ships and the Japanese government doesn't do anything it's going to be pretty bad.
I've been saying over there at the disease in pandemic threads that the Japanese what the Japanese government right now is paying the Japanese companies to come back to Japan but they're slowly moving slow movement the Chinese would confiscate them and being the fact that I like guitars and a lot of guitar manufacturers have gone to China to make their guitars stupid that Gibson and fender and Epiphone and all the other major companies went there from around the world the German company swedish companies English companies making their guitars all in China and they're going to be confiscated

a reply to: musicismagic

China to make their guitars stupid that Gibson and fender and Epiphone

Well personally, i think my Ibanez made, off branded, made in Japan acoustic Gibson's Dove knockoff from the 70's sounds better than an actual Gibson Dove myself. It's well built and it's got a beautiful tone.

I gotta say, I do appreciate a Japanese made guitar. They are almost always high quality and sound great.

More context on my guitar...because it's pretty interesting

mudcat.org...

Since this seems to still have some interest, I would like to add more information to this post about the Mansfield guitars. These discoveries were done after a lot of research on the net, I have found and confirmed at least some of the "mystery" hanging around the Mansfield guitars.

Mansfield was actually an OEM brand from a canadian distributor named Peate's Music store, located on Mansfield street in Montreal. They still have a website with an interesting archive page where you see Martin guitars starting at 24 dollars... Wow! What a bargain! www.peate.com...

But they no longer have a store, so the 24 dollars Martin deal is off!!!. I think they also operate under a different name and are mainly operating as musical instruments distributors.

I have contacted them in 2004 and they were kind enough to confirm that Mansfield used to have their guitar made by Hoshino-Gakki in the 70's:

"The interesting story behind Mansfield is that years ago, before Ibanez became such a strong guitar line, the manufacturer of Ibanez in Japan used to make OEM guitars for musical distributors throughout the world.

They were approached by Peate Musical Instrument Distributors about 30 years ago to make guitars for them. At that time the Peate warehouse was located in Montreal on Mansfield street. Now you know how the guitars came to be called Mansfield. Subsequently, Peate Music went to other guitar manufacturers for their "Mansfield" guitars up until about 10 years ago. The association with Ibanez manufacturing was discontinued about 25 years ago, so whether your guitar was made by the Ibanez factory in Japan or elsewhere is still an open question."

My guitar's from 1974 and actually says made in Japan on it though.

It's a shame for the world that we have chosen to go a different path from an administration with a set goal of independence from China, back to the same old failed policy of selling our soul to China.

It's going to bite us in the end, big time. Here in America, and ultimately the world at large.

China is no ones friend.

Big mistake electing Biden.

a reply to: musicismagic

Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte tells USA the country is tired of being a rest area for American troops; time to hand out bags of 💰💰💰 or piss off:

The President of the Philippines has conceded that the “exigency” of the geopolitical situation makes the presence of US troops in the country a necessity, but warned Washington it won’t be getting anything for free this time.

“I want to put notice, if there is an American agent here, if you want VFA [Visiting Forces Agreement], you have to pay. You have to pay because it is a shared responsibility,” President Rodrigo Duterte said on Friday night.

“Your share of responsibility does not come free because, after all, when the war breaks out, we all pay,” he added, during an inspection of new air assets of the Philippine Air Force at Clark Air Base.

Link

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Well, he ain't wrong. If major conflict ever happens between the US and China, his country is gonna take a serious pounding.

Hmm, well, can the Philippines armed forces rebuff a takeover attack from China without the USA's help? Seems to me there is a trade there that might be overlooked. If the USA forces don't need to be there to protect other countries, then, sure, we'll bring them all back home. What does the Philippines have that WE need to protect?

In other words, don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

The U.S. already pays to maintain the bases, forces, and equipment that are unfortunately in his best interest. I say we send a diplomatic cable declaring we will comply with his obvious desire to go it alone and pack up our toys and leave. We can always just make an artificial island as our base. Have fun defending your island nation against the Chinese. Glad that it was worth your posturing for financial ransom.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: musicismagic

Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte tells USA the country is tired of being a rest area for American troops; time to hand out bags of 💰💰💰 or piss off:

The President of the Philippines has conceded that the “exigency” of the geopolitical situation makes the presence of US troops in the country a necessity, but warned Washington it won’t be getting anything for free this time.

“I want to put notice, if there is an American agent here, if you want VFA [Visiting Forces Agreement], you have to pay. You have to pay because it is a shared responsibility,” President Rodrigo Duterte said on Friday night.

“Your share of responsibility does not come free because, after all, when the war breaks out, we all pay,” he added, during an inspection of new air assets of the Philippine Air Force at Clark Air Base.

Link

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: musicismagic

I've got a friend in the Philippines. She's told me stories about the Chinese attacks on their fishing boats and the encroachment into their northern islands. It's rarely talked about, if at all in the media here, but it happens pretty much daily. They've sunk civilian fishing boats and other civilian craft.

If your op is the case, i'm guessing that means they're going to start shooting down any vessel in the region of those 'disputed' (China just claimed them despite them being part of the Philippines) islands also.

Yeah because they know that the U.S. isn't going to do anything about it now that they have their man in office. No joke.

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: musicismagic

China to make their guitars stupid that Gibson and fender and Epiphone

Well personally, i think my Ibanez made, off branded, made in Japan acoustic Gibson's Dove knockoff from the 70's sounds better than an actual Gibson Dove myself. It's well built and it's got a beautiful tone.

I gotta say, I do appreciate a Japanese made guitar. They are almost always high quality and sound great.

More context on my guitar...because it's pretty interesting

mudcat.org...

Since this seems to still have some interest, I would like to add more information to this post about the Mansfield guitars. These discoveries were done after a lot of research on the net, I have found and confirmed at least some of the "mystery" hanging around the Mansfield guitars.

Mansfield was actually an OEM brand from a canadian distributor named Peate's Music store, located on Mansfield street in Montreal. They still have a website with an interesting archive page where you see Martin guitars starting at 24 dollars... Wow! What a bargain! www.peate.com...

But they no longer have a store, so the 24 dollars Martin deal is off!!!. I think they also operate under a different name and are mainly operating as musical instruments distributors.

I have contacted them in 2004 and they were kind enough to confirm that Mansfield used to have their guitar made by Hoshino-Gakki in the 70's:

"The interesting story behind Mansfield is that years ago, before Ibanez became such a strong guitar line, the manufacturer of Ibanez in Japan used to make OEM guitars for musical distributors throughout the world.

They were approached by Peate Musical Instrument Distributors about 30 years ago to make guitars for them. At that time the Peate warehouse was located in Montreal on Mansfield street. Now you know how the guitars came to be called Mansfield. Subsequently, Peate Music went to other guitar manufacturers for their "Mansfield" guitars up until about 10 years ago. The association with Ibanez manufacturing was discontinued about 25 years ago, so whether your guitar was made by the Ibanez factory in Japan or elsewhere is still an open question."

My guitar's from 1974 and actually says made in Japan on it though.

I have a Japanese guitar from the 1960s. It's called a Kingston Swinger and it's not really that great:



But as to the OP, is war going to break out over there? I certainly hope not.


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