Everyone goes to heaven

One things for sure, we will all find out the truth soon, best be right about you’re beliefs before you get there. Cause if you’re wrong, “ there will be hell to pay”. Typical that many believe that there is no judgement, and accountability for you’re actions in life. My prediction is that many will have quite a shock when their time comes. Personally, I’m going with the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost. Believe what you will, it’s you’re choice.

a reply to: Lazarus Short

While we're at it, Jesus did go to hell, in the original sense. Way back when, "hell" as a verb meant to hide or cover. Being "helled" would include burial, and that sense is still used for fruits and veggies. My father told me about it - if you did not have a root cellar, you dug a trench to below the local frost line, put down a layer of straw, then a layer of potatoes, say, then more straw and finally, the dirt you dug up in the first place. It was called "helling the potatoes." Jesus was "helled" in the tomb, but He was not "held." Get it?

Yes I get it. And I wouldn't cross your fathers teachings over a split
hair any way. Knowing what you just told me would I be wrong to
presume your father was a good man? That's the feeling I got from
your words.

a reply to: Specimen88

What about godless fearing, barbaric savages, that call themselves Atheists? I heard there a special place for them alot.

You're in luck! This is one of my favorite questions to
answer. And I have my own well deduced answer based on sound
doctrine that neither scholar nor theologian has argued. That only
means you can trust it according to what God has made known thru
his word. In short it's the truth.

Sadly I see atheists as both victim and villain. Victimized by a
world that at every turn has filled their head with the most absurd
lies about their own existence. They accuse Christians of being
indoctrinated and never consider for an instant the blind hypocrisy
they display in doing so. The Academic world certainly takes the
ribbon for that one.

Atheists can't and don't want to accept that Gods truth has always
been here. As pure and natural as the morning dew. And the sickening
lie is that he doesn't exist. It is a lie that only recently has took root
in the hearts of men. I digress!

Atheists think they hate God. If the Bible is fairy tales why don't
atheists hate fairies just as much? Because they don't hate fairies at
all. And they don't hate God either. For the most part they pretend
to hate God out of peer pressure. The first line of common sense
should tell everyone it's impossible to hate someone you do not know.

How ever if they choose to believe a lie to the end. When the truth
has never balked? They will in the end have their way. Total separation
from God. But it will take a second death to grant their wish. Only in
the "Lake of fire" can a soul be wiped from existence. A mans soul. It
is only the indestructible wicked angels that will suffer torment for an
eternity. Because God is merciful and yet he is just.

So that's your answer. After a lifetime of blowing smoke out the wazoo. You get
a glimpse of the Almighty that you have used your profane unholy Godless
mouth against your whole life. Don't think for a minute what is seen then
won't fill that wish with regret. No I imagine the atheist will truly understand
that somethings are worse than even a second death. My only advice to an is
If you're an atheist? You haven't done your homework on the most important
subject in human history.

You do not understand the path someone else has put you on. So find out!
The journey is amazing.

Hell isn't defined in either Torah or Christianity. Kaballah (mystical Judiasm) teaches that man has two souls. The animal soul "nefesh hachiyunit" is imprinted with karma of past actions. Those imperfections result in reincarnation which is learning experience for our soul (learning by fire), The "nefesh ha'elokit" being the divine soul is made in Gods perfection (Gods breath). A union of both souls resulting in heavenly rebirth (aka corrected tree=no more re-incarnation).

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: Lazarus Short

While we're at it, Jesus did go to hell, in the original sense. Way back when, "hell" as a verb meant to hide or cover. Being "helled" would include burial, and that sense is still used for fruits and veggies. My father told me about it - if you did not have a root cellar, you dug a trench to below the local frost line, put down a layer of straw, then a layer of potatoes, say, then more straw and finally, the dirt you dug up in the first place. It was called "helling the potatoes." Jesus was "helled" in the tomb, but He was not "held." Get it?

Yes I get it. And I wouldn't cross your fathers teachings over a split
hair any way. Knowing what you just told me would I be wrong to
presume your father was a good man? That's the feeling I got from
your words.

He was good enough to get his life in order, after years of praying for his atheist son (me). After that, God began to move in my life. In time, I found that hell could be filed with the tooth fairy, santa claus and the easter bunny. My mission is to dispel the fear of Hell in the minds of men.

a reply to: Lazarus Short

We are so close in that belief it matters not. I believe in your mission
with the slightest petty difference that either way. Scripture does support
you. And BTW, hoo rah for your father.

originally posted by: Randyvine
a reply to: Lazarus Short

We are so close in that belief it matters not. I believe in your mission
with the slightest petty difference that either way. Scripture does support
you. And BTW, hoo rah for your father.

Thank you.

a reply to: Spacespider

Some people don’t want God or heaven, are you demanding force

None of us know the truth.

We hope we got it right.

After 40 years of seeking I am left confused.

I believe in Jesus. I have no proof.

I hope God has grace, I’m going to need it.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
None of us know the truth.

We hope we got it right.

After 40 years of seeking I am left confused.

I believe in Jesus. I have no proof.

I hope God has grace, I’m going to need it.

If you believe in Jesus, believe in His Word, for He is the Word. His Word, the Bible, states that we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses. Proof is out there IF you really want to know. Explore apologetics. "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" is a decent place to start. If you are falling short after 40 years, your frame of reference may be too small. Be well.

Romans 6:7

For he who has paid the penalty of death stands absolved from his sin.

But that doesn't mean you have the privilege of going to heaven.

Think of a man that lived in China 3000 years ago, he could not accept Jesus as his personal savior as he didn't even come to the earth yet. He would have had no knowledge of the God of Israel as there was no proselyting back then.
He may have lived his life as he saw to do, good or bad, but in total ignorance of God's standards, and there would be nobody to tell him either way. These types of people have God's grace enough to get a second chance of life, to respond to God's requirements. They will be judged by what they do then with knowledge of God's standards when they come back in the earthly resurrection.

John 5:28 & 29

and they will come out of their tombs. Those who have done good will come back to life and live. But those who have done evil will come back to life and will be judged.

What the clergy have misunderstood about this verse is that they thought that Chinese man would be resurrected and then summerly executed. This makes no logical sense for God to do, also if they were in hell as it was thought why bring him back, condemn him, kill him and send him right back to hell. No this is wrong. Rather that Chinese man was in a state like Jesus said of some who died, like sleeping. By dying he paid the full price of all sins he ever committed in ignorance of God's will, he will now be judged only on what he does after he is resurrected and instructed on God's standards. And no even if he follows them perfectly he still doesn't get to go to heaven. Those spots are reserved exclusively for true Christians that have believed in Jesus Christ since the 1st century.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Spacespider
Do you have any source for these statements?

LOL you want science citation for heaven..

Science deals with the seen.

Mysticism with the unseen.

a reply to: purplemer
Even mysticism needs more of a source than individual imagination. Otherwise your claim that you are right has no more value than my claim that you are wrong.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: purplemer
Even mysticism needs more of a source than individual imagination. Otherwise your claim that you are right has no more value than my claim that you are wrong.

You cannot weigh or calibrate the experience of being. Just because something cannot be measured does not make it wrong or right.

originally posted by: Spacespider
Everyone goes to heaven and meet up with the ones that you love.
Lost a pet ? you will be with your pet in heaven, it will be by your side when you go to heaven.
Your part of heaven will be what you wish it to be.
EVERYONE goes to heaven, all your bad thoughts and earthly problems will be meaningless.
There are things to do in heaven, you will have access to a library with knowledge of everything.
Meaning of life ? meaning of life is to have fun with it.. when you go to heaven, you will reflect and laugh about it.
Green hills, lakes, city of angels, love and connection with loved ones.
I have seen lots of near death experiencers on the web that explain things, and this is what I got from it.
Have fun with life and do not fear death.
Your not a believer ? no problem, god does not expect you to worship anything.. god just want you to have fun and enjoy life.
Peace.

Well said.

Thank you for sharing.

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