Nancy Pelosi to Violate the U.S. Constitution with a Snap-Impeachment of President Trump.

a reply to: carewemust

Does the President get the opportunity to testify under oath at his impeachment?

It would be an interesting testimony.

I just can't believe the dems are willing to:

1. Make a laughing stock of their own party in the eyes of the world. they won for cripes sakes (debateably), and not by a landslide either! they'll look like complete imbeciles, and rabid wild animals!

2. essentially declare war on 50% of the entire country!

3. send a message to the world that democracy in the USA is officially over, and the USA is now a dictatorship.

4. prove beyond any shadow of a doubt to the entire world that the government does not represent the people!

they're only justifying the events of jan. 6th, not condemning them!

for christ's sakes, they're acting like china!

...WAIT! ??????

seriously though, this is incomprehensible. they really have lost their minds, and at this point it doesn't even matter if they actually try it or not! just the simple fact they said they would proves the point. they can't just say they were just kidding now!

America will be the laughing stock of the world!

and...where TF is Biden anyway????!!!! who's running this country for the next 4 years?????

a reply to: carewemust

Reminding Pelosi of the constitution is like reminding Satan of scripture.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I tweeted Rudy Giuliani to see if he would clear up that question. Of course either of us could be deplatformed before the question is answered.

That’s exactly what Alan Dershowitz says too.

a reply to: Brassmonkey

She’s already danced with sedition this weekend by requesting the military execute a coup. And I feel like she exists in a state of insurrection. So if we add treason in there she is the perfect trifecta of an Anti-American extremist. Yet... “but Trump...” is all the right seems to worry about.
;-)

reply to: DBCowboy

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: carewemust

Does the President get the opportunity to testify under oath at his impeachment?

It would be an interesting testimony.

During the last House Impeachment, there was time for him and his supporting lawyers/experts to give testimony, but Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler didn't allow it. If you recall, it was totally one-sided, just like you'd see in a Banana Republic.

This time, Nancy is rushing and compressing the process into such a small timeframe, there will not be an opportunity for any witnesses....pro or against impeachment.

There are a small number of SANE leaders in the Democrat party who are correctly labeling Nancy's snap-impeachment as absolutely insane.

Source: twitter.com...

Meanwhile, Americans are seeing first hand what a weak leader Joe Biden has been, currently is, and will always be. He is leaving every decision to others during this historic moment....just 8 days before he is to be our President.

America is Screwed, if Joe Biden's election steal is successful.

a reply to: carewemust

Threats of Impeachment and/or Impeachment (or the 25th) is the chilling of his protected right to freedom of expression.

Roberts swearing in Biden before ever hearing Trump's PA case is the complete deprivation of due process rights. He will effectively decide the case without hearing it.

What next?

Oh that's right...they are coming for our jobs, our earned college degrees, our children....our liberty and happiness.

No, I am not being overly dramatic.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

You're not being overly dramatic at all. It was chilling listening to Biden's cabinet nominees tell a CNN interviewer how they will expand the definition of "Domestic Terrorism" to include divisive statements and actions that COULD lead to violence.

a reply to: carewemust

During the last House Impeachment, there was time for him and his supporting lawyers/experts to give testimony, but Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler didn't allow it.

100% false.

If you recall, it was totally one-sided, just like you'd see in a Banana Republic.

Remarkably, you got that 100% correct, but not the way you seem to think it went down.

from Wikipedia: Impeachment trial of Donald Trump

The impeachment trial of Donald Trump, the 45th and incumbent president of the United States, began in the U.S. Senate on January 16, 2020, and concluded with his acquittal on February 5.[1] After an inquiry between September to November 2019, President Trump was impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives on December 18, 2019; the articles of impeachment charged him with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. It was the third impeachment trial of a U.S. president, preceded by those of Andrew Johnson and of Bill Clinton.[a]

The Republican majority voted on January 21 to reject 11 amendments proposed by Democrats which requested subpoena authority to introduce testimony from current and former White House officials, as well as Trump Administration documents which were not provided to House investigators. The prosecution made its opening arguments on January 22–24, and the defense made its arguments on January 25–28. This was followed by a period of questions, answers, and debate on January 29–31. On January 31, a majority of 51 senators (all Republicans) voted against allowing subpoenas to call witnesses or documents.

So I looked at impeaching Pelosi, just see if it was possible.

Already a petition from what I'm guessing is a lawyer, probably not.

But it was Jan. 19? 2019.

400,000 signatures out of 100,000 needed.

Get her out of office.

NO...she didn't violate the constitution, you guys are WRONG, impeachment can be for whatever reason congress deems appropriate at the time...

originally posted by: MykeNukem
originally posted by: Brassmonkey
"So how can the Senate convict someone for impeachable offenses when that individual is no longer President? How can you Congress remove a President when he is already no longer President? It doesn’t make any sense. Help ATS!"

They can't.

Actually, if he is impeached, the Senate could still convict after he leaves office, if they also wanted to prevent him from ever holding a public office of trust again (the second of the two possible punishments upon conviction for impeachment.

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: carewemust

Sorta like a Vegas impeachment?

Drive-Thru?

This has got to be the most outrageous political manoeuvres ever seen.

Until tomorrow...

At this point, we're like the Roman Empire in the last days before it collapsed. It's painfully obvious to anyone who cares to look that this cannot go on much longer.

Congress has de-legitimized itself in the eyes of 50% of the population. Some politicians in Texas are already talking about secession, and I can seriously see most of the south and Midwest joining them.

My own state (Michigan) would likely end up seeing a fair amount of violence over this. Probably also Wisconsin, Minnesota, and even Pennsylvania.

There are many states where Democratic support is concentrated in a small number of counties: New York, Illinois, Washington, and Oregon come immediately to mind. This would lead to some interesting dilemmas. We might see the majority of the state (geographically) try to secede from the major population center. For example, most of the counties in Illinois could get together and decide to expel Cook County (Chicago) and let them function as an independent city state, while the remainder of Illinois adopts policies more in keeping with your typical Midwestern state.

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: carewemust

Reminding Pelosi of the constitution is like reminding Satan of scripture.

Nancy Pelosi might not be able to comprehend certain subjects. Her frustration over not being able to follow the State of the Union address, caused her to rip it up on live TV last year.

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: carewemust

During the last House Impeachment, there was time for him and his supporting lawyers/experts to give testimony, but Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler didn't allow it.

100% false.

100% true.

You're confusing the House Impeachment (where he was denied any representation or testimony or presentation of evidence at all, zero, nada, zilch) with the Senate trial (where he was, but the Senate rejected their requests for presenting evidence supposedly because they already knew they would be voting for acquittal, but the real reason more importantly, was because the RINOs didn't want the evidence presented).

originally posted by: jimmyx
NO...she didn't violate the constitution, you guys are WRONG, impeachment can be for whatever reason congress deems appropriate at the time...

Nope
It has to be for high crimes or misdemeanor

Sorry you are incorrect

originally posted by: jimmyx
NO...she didn't violate the constitution, you guys are WRONG, impeachment can be for whatever reason congress deems appropriate at the time...

It will be handed out like popcorn going forward, that's for sure.

But until the impeachment is totally meaningless, President Trump can frame his 2 or 3 Pelosi "You're Impeached!" certificates, and proudly hang them in his trophy room.

It's a badge of honor when evil people dislike, or (even better) hate you.