Rabies, Tetenus, and COVID

I was thinking, and perhaps some one knows why..but when you get bit by a rabid animal, they give you a rabbies vaccine. So you could build up antibodies fast. other wise you will die of rabbies.

If i step on a rusty nail, i have to take a tetanus vaccine so i could build up antibodies that will counter act the poison ill get with the rusty nail. Other wise i will die of tetanus.

So what makes COVID any different? If i catch covid, why cant i THEN take the vaccine?

a reply to: loueber

Because rabies and tetanus are terrible ways to die. Also, it's not quite the same. Tetanus shots should be pre-emptive. You can get vaccinated for rabies without contracting it. I had to before working with bats. It's a different shot than the one they give you if you've been bitten by a rabid animal. The one I got was a series of three shots. They were only good for a couple years. The rabies virus just doesn't # around. I'd need to get a booster shot before working near potentially rabid animals again. Post exposure rabies vaccines add extra shots of rabies immunoglobulin alongside the vaccine.

As for the tetanus shot

en.wikipedia.org...

After three doses, almost everyone is initially immune,[1] but additional doses every ten years are recommended to maintain immunity.[2] A booster shot should be given within 48 hours of an injury to people whose immunization is out of date.[3] For people with high-risk injuries who are not fully immunized, tetanus antitoxin may also be recommended.[1]

Neither of these things are in any way comparable to the covid vaccine.

a reply to: loueber
I think you'll find (though ask a doctor) if you get Rabies it aint one shot. It's a series of shots into your stomach and they are very, very painful.

originally posted by: loueber
I was thinking, and perhaps some one knows why..but when you get bit by a rabid animal, they give you a rabbies vaccine. So you could build up antibodies fast. other wise you will die of rabbies.

If i step on a rusty nail, i have to take a tetanus vaccine so i could build up antibodies that will counter act the poison ill get with the rusty nail. Other wise i will die of tetanus.

So what makes COVID any different? If i catch covid, why cant i THEN take the vaccine?

Because you're highly unlikely to pass Rabies or Tetanus on to other people.

With Covid you might infect your entire family before you experience a single symptom, you might never experience symptoms, but still be a super spreader.

You get the covid shot before you get sick because it not only reduces your chances of getting sick but it reduces the chance that you might infect other people.

Tetanus dosent come from rust

Rabies takes a long time to reach your brain so there's time to vaccinate

A vaccine for a cold virus is pointless due to mutation we will end up in a endless cycle of yearly vaccination

a reply to: AaarghZombies

And getting the vaccine mat not stop you from spreading the virus to other people.

We know vaccination will prevent you from getting sick, but we do not know if the vaccine will prevent you from spreading the virus to others yet.

www.uwmedicine.org...

A tetnus shot works for ten years minimum. They used to give you a shot before if you hadn't had one in four years but they upped it up to ten now. I guess the Tetnus shot alone gives a person thirty plus years of protection from tests they have done in Europe within the last year or two. I guess they are now able to check that kind of stuff now, they probably did antibody testing on people who had shots a long time ago. But just to make sure, I think that ten years would be a good number to use if you step on a nail.

a reply to: markovian

A vaccine for a cold virus is pointless due to mutation we will end up in a endless cycle of yearly vaccination

On the other hand the advent of mRNA vaccines just might lead to something along those lines. But people with colds don't generally fill up hospitals so it's not much of a priority.

a reply to: loueber

I took the rabies after the bite shot series. It is horrible, or it was when I took it, a series of shots, one per week, in my stomach for weeks on end.

a reply to: The2Billies

It is horrible, or it was when I took it, a series of shots, one per week, in my stomach for weeks on end.

Unless you're pretty damned old and were quite young at the time, bull#.

A regimen of four 1-mL doses of HDCV or PCEC vaccines should be administered intramuscularly to previously unvaccinated persons.

The first dose of the four-dose course should be administered as soon as possible after exposure. Additional doses should be administered on days 3, 7, and 14 after the first vaccination. For adults, the vaccination should always be administered intramuscularly in the deltoid area (arm). For children, the anterolateral aspect of the thigh is also acceptable.

www.cdc.gov...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: The2Billies

It is horrible, or it was when I took it, a series of shots, one per week, in my stomach for weeks on end.

Unless you're pretty damned old and were quite young at the time, bull#.

A regimen of four 1-mL doses of HDCV or PCEC vaccines should be administered intramuscularly to previously unvaccinated persons.

The first dose of the four-dose course should be administered as soon as possible after exposure. Additional doses should be administered on days 3, 7, and 14 after the first vaccination. For adults, the vaccination should always be administered intramuscularly in the deltoid area (arm). For children, the anterolateral aspect of the thigh is also acceptable.

www.cdc.gov...

That page was last updated in 2014 so her experience is likely from a long time ago. I've always heard the shots were in the stomach, several of them over time. Times change, treatments change, unfortunately you're still out of line with your comment to her.

a reply to: HalWesten

I've always heard the shots were in the stomach, several of them over time.

Sort of. But not one per week, for weeks on end.
Childhood memories are highly subject to conflation with rumor and family lore.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: HalWesten

I've always heard the shots were in the stomach, several of them over time.

Sort of. But not one per week, for weeks on end.
Childhood memories are highly subject to conflation with rumor and family lore.

Is it so hard for you to understand that things can be done differently around the country? I am 57, ever since I was a little boy I heard about people in my area (on very rare occasions) getting several shots in the stomach over time. You had a different experience. Fine. Just leave it alone.

a reply to: HalWesten

I was a little boy I heard about people in my area (on very rare occasions) getting several shots in the stomach over time.

Yes. Children are often told scary stories as cautionary tales but the specific claim does not match the reality.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: HalWesten

I was a little boy I heard about people in my area (on very rare occasions) getting several shots in the stomach over time.

Yes. Children are often told scary stories as cautionary tales but the specific claim does not match the reality.

Someday maybe you'll realize you're not the expert and will stop responding to so many posts with nonsense. Until then,

What are three viruses I’ve never had for $1000 Alex.

What are 2 viruses that will kill you without a vaccine and 1 virus with a 99.5% survival rate without a vaccine?

a reply to: Phage

I also remember reading about the 21 shots in the stomach, when someone in the area was bitten by a raccoon.

www.google.com...

🤦‍♀️ WOQ

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: loueber
I think you'll find (though ask a doctor) if you get Rabies it aint one shot. It's a series of shots into your stomach and they are very, very painful.

Ever wonder why its into the stomach.....

a reply to: wasobservingquietly

Yes. The regimen used to be 21 injections to abdominal muscles. 1 each day. Quite a while ago.

The treatment at this time had been reduced to only 21 doses to be administered one a day for 21 days, and the Caloris vacuum bottle was replaced with a cardboard mailing tube.

americanhistory.si.edu...

The basic "Pasteur Treatment," based on brain tissue vaccine with the addition of formaldehyde, is still used in many countries of the world where rabies is prevalent. This treatment still involves immunizations given daily for 14-21 days, and it still carries the same risk of neurologic sequelae as in Pasteur's day.

todayinsci.com...

"Once a week for weeks on end" doesn't quite fit the description but I can chalk it up to muddled memory.

a reply to: Phage

I was 6 and yes I'm pretty damn old.

How mean of you! and I thought you were someone to be looked up to!