Video shows polls workers pulling out suitcases of ballots | GA election hearing.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: djz3ro

I believe the point is it was illegal for them to continue counting without watchers. 1) they said they were closing for the night and vote counting will stop. 2) then in secret counted a lot of ballots with no one watching them.

It's a good thing, I guess that there was an manager from the Elections Commission and an investigator from the Secretary of States office there at the time then, eh?

originally posted by: macaronicaesar

originally posted by: carewemust
Here is a graphic showing a huge spike in Joe Biden votes as the suitcases of ballots were being fed into the machines.

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Nothing to see here the left will say. It’s completely normal for 1 candidate to get 100% of the vote.

In Venezuela it is.

a reply to: djz3ro
But clearly, this video shows Facts, don't they? And if they reject this in court then they're blind and not willing to see.
If there was nothing to succeed in court for then Rudi Guiliani and Sydney Powell would have quit or given advice to President Trump to stop this?

I'm sure many folks realize that the intention here is not to prove anything with evidence ... this is nothing but incitement.

Trump, et. al. are DESPERATELY trying to insttgate violence on one side or the other so that he would have some justification for declaring martial law.

What we are witnessing here on the part of MAGA-folks is a coup attempt.

The questions (that were not questions to begin with) have been answered. The elections officials up to and including the Secretary of State have explained what the video shows. The courts have reviewed the "evidence" and dismissed it.

Biden will be certified as the winner of the 2020 Presidential Election before midnight. In a few days the Electors will meet and Biden will be the 46th President of the United States.

However, I'm quite certain, there will be blood.

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: djz3ro
But clearly, this video shows Facts, don't they? And if they reject this in court then they're blind and not willing to see.
If there was nothing to succeed in court for then Rudi Guiliani and Sydney Powell would have quit or given advice to President Trump to stop this?

What do you see in the video?

You see containers pulled from under a table where they had just been placed. The elctions manageer for that facility has explained what happened, and has also explained that there were officials from the Election Commission and the SoS.

Folks can keep screetching that these are illegitimate votes, but they aren't.

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: djz3ro
But clearly, this video shows Facts, don't they? And if they reject this in court then they're blind and not willing to see.
If there was nothing to succeed in court for then Rudi Guiliani and Sydney Powell would have quit or given advice to President Trump to stop this?

What facts do the videos show exactly?

They don't show people being told to go home.

They don't show anything to suggest these ballots were fraudulent.

They don't show Republican observers being shut out?

So what evidence can be gleaned from them in your opinion?

a reply to: djz3ro

Correct. And yet, the sheer fact that the video was FRAMED that way by Trump, et. al., these folks would swear to it.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: djz3ro
But clearly, this video shows Facts, don't they? And if they reject this in court then they're blind and not willing to see.
If there was nothing to succeed in court for then Rudi Guiliani and Sydney Powell would have quit or given advice to President Trump to stop this?

What facts do the videos show exactly?

They don't show people being told to go home.

They don't show anything to suggest these ballots were fraudulent.

They don't show Republican observers being shut out?

So what evidence can be gleaned from them in your opinion?

0bserver1 is being sarcastic, right?

a reply to: djz3ro

Well, I'm not going to argue that they first have to track those people down for investigation, and then we know more what they exactly were doing there?

a reply to: Gryphon66

trying to insttgate violence on one side or the other so that he would have some justification for declaring martial law.

violence has been instigated for 4 fricking years and you didnt care but suddenly because your guy might catch the blame its a thing to worry about.

Biden will be president nothing will change it, just like with a quickness he will resign, die or be declared unfit so harris takes over.

Many people have been attacked over the last 4 years and they were told by the media and self rightous twits online that they deserved it because a maga hat was incitement.

ETA: trump is doing what he always does and once again the media and the slow on the left are falling for it, it wont change anything but the man is a professional troll, he will cheerfully set fire to the house as he leaves just to spite the people taking over.

a reply to: johnnylaw16
No, I'm not, I'm just curious how the law works and answering questions if I may?

a reply to: Irishhaf

No idea where you're coming from bud.

You're more or less ranting.

If you have something specific to address, let me know.

Aside from that ... I'll remind you that I am not the topic and neither is what you may think about me.

I will agree with you that Trump is a professional troll. The rest of your post is emotional.

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: johnnylaw16
No, I'm not, I'm just curious how the law works and answering questions if I may?

Sorry then. It's difficult to discern inflection through text.

But the video alone would not be evidence. It could be, but not standing alone and not based on only what we know now. As you correctly note in one of your posts above, they would need to track down the people in the video and figure out what exactly happened and what the video is actually depicting. The problem here is that many people in this thread seem to be assuming that they know what the video shows without going through the investigation step that you point out above. Until that happens, it is premature to assume that the video is showing anything nefarious or illegal.

If you have other questions about how the law works, ask away!

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: djz3ro

Well, I'm not going to argue that they first have to track those people down for investigation, and then we know more what they exactly were doing there?

You know this has already gone to court and failed?

a reply to: johnnylaw16

The most viral claim from the hearing is a 90-second clip of surveillance footage from Fulton County's tabulation center set up at State Farm Arena. Culled from hours of vote counting, the short clip allegedly shows election workers bringing suitcases of ballots out from underneath a table to be counted in secret after Republican monitors were told to go home.

But that's not what was shown and the claims misunderstand the laws and rules around counting.

State and county officials, including investigators for the secretary of state's office, said that the video clip making the rounds show the normal tabulation process. No monitors were told to leave, but Republican monitors and members of the media left when some election employees called "cutters" wrapped up for the night.

Georgia law § 21-2-408 spells out the rules for partisan poll watchers, allowing them to be present and monitor aspects of the elections process. But having monitors there is not required — and in fact, Democrats did not have monitors present at that time.

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Another big election lawsuit filed in Georgia today. With Donald Trump and a citizen of Georgia as the plaintiffs.

Lots of evidence of election law violations included.

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originally posted by: carewemust
Another big election lawsuit filed in Georgia today. With Donald Trump and a citizen of Georgia as the plaintiffs.

Lots of evidence of election law violations included.

Source: mobile.twitter.com...

Do you have a link to this lawsuit, rather than to a Twitter account? (Also, aren't conservatives banned from Twitter? It seems to be your primary blind source).

a reply to: djz3ro

I know but as many now know as much as Republicans and Democrats that electronic voting isn't safe as off mail-in ballots as many of you all knew for years but still using to my surprise, should be stopped ASAP for coming elections of the future..

Just paper ballots and boxes and secured transports with equal observers and probably a longer election period would be safer. Not that it would be 100% waterproof but surely better and equal margins as we've seen to date..

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: djz3ro

I know but as many now know as much as Republicans and Democrats that electronic voting isn't safe as off mail-in ballots as many of you all knew for years but still using to my surprise, should be stopped ASAP for coming elections of the future..

Just paper ballots and boxes and secured transports with equal observers and probably a longer election period would be safer. Not that it would be 100% waterproof but surely better and equal margins as we've seen to date..

Well, those are words anyway. I can't really construct any meaning thereform.

The real irony here is that this election was far safer and well-documented than 2016. The Dominion software in Georga actually creates a paper trail, where there was none under the old system.

Just facts; don't let them disturb you.

a reply to: 0bserver1

If it really was such a scam Trump had the power to do something about it since 2016, yet didn't.