The Beast that was and is not identified

The Bible talks about the beast that was and is not, yet is in Revelation 17. John also gave us clues as to who this might be.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

This tells us that this beast was alive, he's not alive now(at the time John wrote this) but he will live again most likely in the body of a present day leader.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

This is pretty clear and in this case John predicted the short reign of Nerva.

The one that is would have been Domitian. Nerva was Emperor after Domitian for 15 months. Who were the 5 that had fallen?

Galba, Otho, Vitellius, Vespasian and Titus.

Now the first 3 before Vespasian and Nerva ruled for short periods of time. Vespasian, Titus and Domitian had the biggest impact on the Jews.

Titus destroyed the 2nd Temple in 70 A.D under Vespasian as Emperor.

He wanted to capture the Temple for Rome and put Roman gods in it but it was on fire so he decided to destroy it in such a way that Jerusalem would be forgotten. Just like Jesus predicted.

Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, “See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down.”

The wailing wall isn't the site of the 2nd Temple. Neither is the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount is an old Roman fort.

The Bible said, he will be an eighth king but part of the 7. It also says this 8th king will be the soul of of one of the 7 that ascends out of the bottomless pit. I believe it will ascend and enter the body of the beast that get's the deadly wound that's healed.

Now, out of these 7, I think it will be Vespasian, Titus or Domitian. Like I said, Titus destroyed the 2nd Temple, Vespasian would throw Jews in the water to see if they float and Domitian was a tyrant. It could be any 1 of the 7 though.

a reply to: neoholographic

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

For this to happened a rock will fall from the heaven. A rock not made by man, and it will hit earth and open up the pit. This is described in revelation chapter 9.

Revelation 9 also mentioned the Kings name in two languages:

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

The destroyer...

He was referring which empire that the Beast will come from. Every city, town, village, county, state, nation and planet have their own ruling spirit.
At the time of John, The Roman Empire was still a strong power There are two cities that set on seven hills, Rome and Babylon. Both cities has a port. Rome you can't see from the sea or land. Babylon was seen and will be seen from both land and sea.
Sometime in the future, New York city will no longer be the capital of Earth. They will build a new city and name it Babylon. It will be Earth capital city.

a reply to: kennethmd


The beast in this case. Revelation 9... will come from the pit. It will not be a man in this case. It will be something else. Who it is is mentioned in revelation 9:11.

But what we humans will experiance is this: THis movie prity much describes everything from revelation 8 and on..... The movie prity much explain how we humans will handle this, both by media and scientific.

www.youtube.com...