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originally posted by: abeverage
a reply to: seeker1963
Interesting the push for matching Tattoo's
Not knowing history or it's implications is exactly what we have here. Not being overly religious, I do seem to remember about something like a mark? If it is cool well they will fall in line to get one!
originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: chr0naut
I have a half size body tattoo to cover scars from an accident. If god exists where was he when my family died? If that's the reason I go to hell, I accept it.
originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: chr0naut
Jesus wasn't God, at least get your "facts" right
originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: chr0naut
If I knew you would start preaching like that, I would never had reacted.
Lesson learned.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: chr0naut
Jesus wasn't God, at least get your "facts" right
Christians acknowledge that Jesus was God. Cults like the Jehovah's Witnesses and Latter Day Saints don't.
"For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority" - Colossians 2:10 about Jesus.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end". - Jesus in Revelation 22:13.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made"... "and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth". - John 1:1-5 ... John 1:14.
... and ...
"We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the Maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the essence of the Father. God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the Father, by Whom all things came into being, in heaven, and on earth, visible and invisible. Who for us humanity and for our salvation came down from heaven, was incarnate, was made human, was born perfectly of the holy virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit. By whom He took body, soul, and mind, and everything that is in man, truly and not in semblance. He suffered, was crucified, was buried, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven with the same body, [and] sat at the right hand of the Father. He is to come with the same body and with the glory of the Father, to judge the living and the dead; of His kingdom, there is no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, in the uncreated and the perfect; Who spoke through the Law, prophets, and Gospels; Who came down upon the Jordan, preached through the apostles and lived in the saints.
"We believe also in only One, Universal, Apostolic, and Holy Church; in one baptism in repentance, for the remission, and forgiveness of sins; and in the resurrection of the dead, in the everlasting judgment of souls and bodies, and the Kingdom of Heaven and in the everlasting life". - The Nicene Creed.
originally posted by: stormson
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: chr0naut
Jesus wasn't God, at least get your "facts" right
Christians acknowledge that Jesus was God. Cults like the Jehovah's Witnesses and Latter Day Saints don't.
"For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority" - Colossians 2:10 about Jesus.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end". - Jesus in Revelation 22:13.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made"... "and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth". - John 1:1-5 ... John 1:14.
... and ...
"We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, the Maker of heaven and earth, of things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the begotten of God the Father, the Only-begotten, that is of the essence of the Father. God of God, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same nature of the Father, by Whom all things came into being, in heaven, and on earth, visible and invisible. Who for us humanity and for our salvation came down from heaven, was incarnate, was made human, was born perfectly of the holy virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit. By whom He took body, soul, and mind, and everything that is in man, truly and not in semblance. He suffered, was crucified, was buried, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven with the same body, [and] sat at the right hand of the Father. He is to come with the same body and with the glory of the Father, to judge the living and the dead; of His kingdom, there is no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, in the uncreated and the perfect; Who spoke through the Law, prophets, and Gospels; Who came down upon the Jordan, preached through the apostles and lived in the saints.
"We believe also in only One, Universal, Apostolic, and Holy Church; in one baptism in repentance, for the remission, and forgiveness of sins; and in the resurrection of the dead, in the everlasting judgment of souls and bodies, and the Kingdom of Heaven and in the everlasting life". - The Nicene Creed.
If Jesus was God, then the "sacrifice" meant nothing. Jesus knew he would survive with no lasting damage or consequence. He gave up nothing.
Persons that go in harm's way to save another, losing life or limb, is sacrifice.