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eta- It's true there is no proof how many have been killed. So you have a valid point. I still think the CCP has killed more than Hitler and Hitler didn't harvest organs as far as I know.
If China are doing this, then it should be condemned by everyone, but I want real evidence before I believe it. Why? Because I have seen so much BS evidence regarding China over the last year.
The Chinese government is taking draconian measures to slash birth rates among Uighurs and other minorities as part of a sweeping campaign to curb its Muslim population, even as it encourages some of the country’s Han majority to have more children.
While individual women have spoken out before about forced birth control, the practice is far more widespread and systematic than previously known, according to an AP investigation based on government statistics, state documents and interviews with 30 ex-detainees, family members and a former detention camp instructor. The campaign over the past four years in the far west region of Xinjiang is leading to what some experts are calling a form of “demographic genocide.”
The state regularly subjects minority women to pregnancy checks, and forces intrauterine devices, sterilization and even abortion on hundreds of thousands, the interviews and data show. Even while the use of IUDs and sterilization has fallen nationwide, it is rising sharply in Xinjiang.
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: LookingAtMars
What we can see here is a real opportunity for the Christian and Islamic world to find some commonality and face the Chinese as one. this moment could be the very moment that all the chaos of the past 100 years between the Abraham religions ceases and they find common cause in confronting the Communists who will in the long term see all of Abraham as something to erase from the Planet. Its just a conspiracy theory but one that unite Abramics
To Be a Bishop
● According to a mainland Chinese newspaper, newly elected Catholic bishop Zhang Xin of Taiyuan city was required to swear allegiance to the governing party in a church ceremony. The report said that, kneeling before the altar with his hand on a Bible, he swore “firmly to uphold the leadership of the Chinese Communist party and the people’s government, to follow the Socialist road, to respect the constitution . . . and all laws and decrees issued by the government.”
Loyalty to Church—Or State?
● “The Vatican has become increasingly concerned about what it sees as efforts by some governments to alienate Roman Catholics from loyalty to the church,” reports the International Herald Tribune of Paris. According to the report, the pope is “deeply concerned” about the status of the Roman Catholic Church in China because the “only legal worship is in churches that are controlled by what is known as the Patriotic Church, run by ordained priests who have openly rejected papal authority and reject everything that the Vatican has done since 1949.” The article mentions China, Vietnam, Czechoslovakia and Albania and quotes the pope as saying: “They try to create a church cut off from the Apostolic See . . . making them believe that they can continue to practice their faith in full independence.”
Not ‘Persecuted’?
● In a recent statement mainland Chinese Catholics have denounced Pope John Paul II for claiming that Catholics in China are being persecuted. Calling it “vicious slander based on false testimonies,” they threatened to “launch a counterattack” if the pope does not stop “his false testimonies and accusations.” According to the New York Times, the pope had “compared the situation of Chinese Catholics to the persecution of the early Christians,” and asked that prayers be said for them. The Chinese statement, issued on behalf of three Catholic organizations recognized by the Chinese government, claims to represent the views of all Chinese Catholics. It pointed to the freedom they have enjoyed in recent years allowing them to restore over two hundred churches and worship more freely. “Chinese Catholics are nervous that this could be jeopardized if the Vatican presses too hard,” said the Times. Much of this freedom has resulted from backing the government’s policies and refusing to submit to the Vatican.
“EVEN though you make many prayers, I am not listening; with bloodshed your very hands have become filled.” Thus said almighty God to those who professed to serve him but who were involved in shedding innocent blood.—Isaiah 1:15.
Are this world’s religions guilty of shedding innocent blood? Yes, they certainly are. In every war of our 20th century, the religions of this world and their clergy have supported the bloodshed. This has even led to members of the same religion killing one another on a mass scale.
Yet, Jesus taught his followers to ‘return their sword to its place.’ (Matthew 26:52) The apostle Paul stated: “The weapons of our warfare are not fleshly.” (2 Corinthians 10:4) The powerful message of God’s Word is that those who practice true religion must love one another and not shed blood: “The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Everyone who does not carry on righteousness does not originate with God, neither does he who does not love his brother. For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should have love for one another; not like Cain, who originated with the wicked one and slaughtered his brother.”—1 John 3:10-12.
If a religion does not practice this kind of love, its prayers will not be heard by God. The Bible says: “Whatever we ask we receive from him, because we are observing his commandments and are doing the things that are pleasing in his eyes.” (1 John 3:22) But this world’s religions have not observed God’s commandments. Instead, they have weakly gone along with the slaughtering of some one hundred million people in the wars of this century alone!
Will Leaders and People Listen?
. . .
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Lysergic
As an example they treat Falun Gong practitioners with the utmost respect.
They'd never systematically oppress them and harvest their organs, thats just western propaganda made up by hateful white nationalist.
As an example they treat Falun Gong practitioners with the utmost respect.
They'd never systematically oppress them and harvest their organs, thats just western propaganda made up by hateful white nationalist
But I am cautious because there is a big move in the West do come out with anti China propaganda. So people need to know what is real, and what is not real.
I am sure there is some anti China propaganda out there.
There is also a lot of anti American propaganda too.
Directed at the office of the President and the Constitution. That worries me more than anti China propaganda.
You want proof and facts. Good luck with that. Unless you move to China and do lots of observing and questioning you will never really know the truth.
All we can do is watch, use our knowledge and past experiences and come to a conclusion. I have concluded the CCP is evil.
I am sure I could of been influenced by propaganda a bit, but from what I have seen over the years. They really are evil.